Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[Lorzenz08]

But why would all the other teams with big budgets, and all the UCI members fear Gianetti ?

That one individual fear Gianetti, that might be one thing. But that all the most powerful members of cycling fear him, that is quite an assumption..

 

[ColonelKidneyBeans]

But why would all the other teams with big budgets, and all the UCI members fear Gianetti ?

That one individual fear Gianetti, that might be one thing. But that all the most powerful members of cycling fear him, that is quite an assumption..

Armsstrong and Bruyneel were feared too, history has a knack for repeating itself.

 

[peterfin]

We help matters by asking questions on what has been brought to the table. I'll look into it.

I do have the impression that all those questions have the intention to riducule people who believe something is going on at UAE. Your quote "Maybe Gianetti got lucky with Pogacar" is telling. Maybe that is not your intention but that's how I and others perceive it. Be aware that, as a moderator, this feeling is amplified.

The point is of course that we don't have clear answers. If we had them, we wouldn't discuss it in this obscure part of the forum. My take on Gianetti is that he just a figure that is used by UAE to reach their goals. UAE's is in the business of sportswashing and cycling is a cheap way to reach many people in the West. However, in order to make impact and visibility it requires them to win big. That goal is more important than how it is achieved. Gianetti is the right guy here, not because he is a mastermind but because he can execute plans without questioning and leaking anything to the media. Doping is not an issue for him. He is focussed on winning and fame. Bruyneel - Pogacar's biggest fan - is probably his example. Bruyneel shows him there is little to fear, even if it all blows up in his face.

 

[BubbaChuck]

their explanation is pog is on superjuice,lmaoo.always remember goat destroyed multiple armstrongs per year. mvp in spring,jonas in summer and remco in autum.and this is crystal clear in any serius watts analyisis.its hilraius to hear debates about doping with zero numbers,lol.for example 90s is such easy story,you could lock them all up in a month.

 

[BubbaChuck]

this era madness started with rogla nad visma in 2019.it started before covid .than pog destroys rog in tour and flood gates were open.

 

[Lorzenz08]

Armsstrong and Bruyneel were feared too, history has a knack for repeating itself.

But because all the biggest teams were on the same boat. There is a reason no winner has been declared in place of Armstrong.

 

[Cookster15]

do have the impression that all those questions have the intention to riducule people who believe something is going on at UAE

Mods are able to have their opinions too. My intention is never to ridicule. Merely to flush out the truth. The rest of your post helps that aim. What it doesn’t explain is why other teams tolerate this situation if true.

e.g. Red Bull are not a small player in global sporting sponsorship. Formula 1?

My comment that maybe Gianetti got lucky with Pogacar relates to him possibly being a super responder and Gianetti stumbled upon him. How else could he predict how he might respond to methods when he was only 18 or 19.

 

[danielovichdk2]

Kenny Rogers made a fine music track. It's called The Gambler.

Gianetti is sitting in his in chalet somewhere in the Swiss mountains, mixing blood and some Swiss precision medication, while he yells "you gotta know when to hoooold 'eeem...lalalalaaa...know when to hooood 'eemmm"...

He never gets to the fold 'em part.

The dealing's done. Pog is went from being a joy to watch to a pain.