Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[SorelyBoy]

I don't see how anyone can look at that and declare definitively this is motor doping. Or declare it at all. I have no idea what he's on, and what the rest of the peloton are on, but this makes zero sense to me. Yeah I raced, but no idea how that affects anyone's ability to analyze footage like this. Is he doping? Sure, they all obviously are. Motor? No idea how anyone can confidently assert this.

I wouldn’t be able to say for certain whether the clip in question shows he’s motor assisted. I would say that it looks strange however, in that the sudden acceleration and cadence just looks off, especially given the race state, the location, and in stark contrast to his competitors. I have seen other examples that are even more unusual looking (in terms of the initial acceleration phase especially and then the apparent ability to sustain an enhanced effort for multiple kilometres) . And then, for the 95% of the time he does these types of things, there are the one off oddities that defy expectations. More often than not in a time trial for some reason, possibly technical. If motor doping is being used, then it is likely it will be used tactically on certain races, certain stages, and perhaps at certain points in those races. Additionally, it’s use would also have the additional benefit of allowing the rider to expend less energy across a season, enabling them to be effective across all types of routes, and allow them to remain healthy and give the effect of sustaining their form across an entire season.

 

[TiesjBenoot]

see u later guys.... its gonna be another ridicolous performance....

 

[Notarobot]

Beyond ridiculous.. The only one in the race who's not even grimacing. And mind you he did a lot of pulls in the group. Next year he will lead the peleton and simply drives away in the distance

 

[DONCA]

Does Pogacar actually have twitching thumbs?
He’s always making these weird movements—and no, I don’t mean when he’s shifting gears.

MVDP shouldn’t be leading. Pogi will drop him easily on of the next climbs.

 

[markene2]

Ebike Teddy does it again

 

[Rackham]

Who even watches this stuff anymore. That's my question.

It seems like you could just re-watch last year's Flanders and it's the same thing. Or any race he's in really. He just inexorably blows everyone off his wheel.

Maybe some people though this sort of stuff was fun half a decade ago but this is getting old now.

 

[DONCA]

Weird thumb movement (not switching gears) and off he goes.
Like playing video games.

 

[Gianetti_Is_The_Goat]

We're living in the peak *** era of cycling and I'm afraid we're going to see something similar with Del Toro.

 

[MJR]

An absolute circus. Professional wrestling on wheels.

 

[SHAD0W93]

At least we have found out the motor everyone keeps referring to is the motorbikes.

 

[bigcog]

Weird thumb movement (not switching gears) and off he goes.
Like playing video games.

When in footage, what timestamp ?

 

[110]

I don't see how anyone can look at that and declare definitively this is motor doping. Or declare it at all. I have no idea what he's on, and what the rest of the peloton are on, but this makes zero sense to me. Yeah I raced, but no idea how that affects anyone's ability to analyze footage like this. Is he doping? Sure, they all obviously are. Motor? No idea how anyone can confidently assert this.

the trick is to open your eyes
in combination with your cognitive possibilities
in order to fathom the deception

behold the charlatan of charlatans on his e-bike

the fool will fall

 

[red_flanders]

the trick is to open your eyes
in combination with your cognitive possibilities
in order to fathom the deception

behold the charlatan of charlatans on his e-bike

the fool will fall

Repeating your unfounded assertion and insulting my intelligence is super convincing. Feel better?

 

[Didinho]

Won the last 4 monuments like it’s nothing. Could it be worse? We’ll see next week.

 

[Red Rick]

We're living in the peak *** era of cycling and I'm afraid we're going to see something similar with Del Toro.

Del Toro was 4 minutes back in Sanremo.

Just imagine how utterly *** his natural endurance must be.

 

[110]

Repeating your unfounded assertion and insulting my intelligence is super convincing. Feel better?

was just a tip
nothing to cry for
insulting?
personality is a prison
feel better?
for what
already good
no need to stay naive

The Blind Leading the Blind - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Ilmaestro99]

There was a time when Flanders was my favourite race, I always set aside the time to watch the last 100km, loving it.

Last 3 years I barely even watch and just check in. Today I had big dinner with family instead of sitting to watch the race. Right choice.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

If he ends up in jail due to the train debacle (not that he will or should), it would be equal to Al Capone getting busted for tax evasion.

 

[Pozzovivo]

Many have made up their mind a long time ago and the rest is just confirmation bias. Vollering wins by a bigger margin than Pogacar today btw, how does that fit your conspiracy theory?

Imo, this is just how it looks when one rider is stronger than the rest on a hilly parcour. Not possible to draw any conclusions based on it.

Perhaps Remco did more watts the last 1,5h, but he just refuses to go above his threshold. It is what it is.

 

[jotafap]

The motor accusations are getting way too funny.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

You've made up your mind a long time ago and the rest is confirmation bias. Vollering wins by a bigger margin than Pogacar today btw. This is just how it looks when one rider is stronger than the rest on a hilly parcour.

You probaby also believed in Indurain, Amstrong, Contador. Stronger riders......

 

[Pozzovivo]

You probaby also believed in Indurain, Amstrong, Contador. Stronger riders......

What is the point of this comment?

"You probably also believed team sky were using blood bags" They didn't.

 

[Gianetti_Is_The_Goat]

What is the point of this comment?

"You probably also believed team sky were using blood bags" They didn't.

What are you trying to say? That it's normal that a guy dominates nearly every race on any terrain all season? Usually with ease and often with long solos.

 

[topcat]

There was a time when Flanders was my favourite race, I always set aside the time to watch the last 100km, loving it.

Last 3 years I barely even watch and just check in. Today I had big dinner with family instead of sitting to watch the race. Right choice.

I was sick today and burnt out from singing the Easter triduum, so I sat down and watched it. It was exciting until it wasn't. I didn't like the result. Moto pacing and MvdP's lack of tactics wouldn't have changed the result. Pogacar would have just dropped a bigger bomb if necessary. Pog rode well within himself. He's thinking about next week. I tried to stop watching cycling but I haven't been able to quit yet. I think I might need an intervention. Next week could be it.

 

[Unchained]

I don't see how anyone can look at that and declare definitively this is motor doping. Or declare it at all. I have no idea what he's on, and what the rest of the peloton are on, but this makes zero sense to me. Yeah I raced, but no idea how that affects anyone's ability to analyze footage like this. Is he doping? Sure, they all obviously are. Motor? No idea how anyone can confidently assert this.

You read post after post and you realize that this subject,... I guess it's a composite delusion..
People will say.. I guess to themselves..
Pogacar has been racing lights out since 2019, multiple continents, dozens of different federations, not a hint of anything irregular, illegal with his bike or body, with hundreds, possibly more than a thousand of people doing physical and biological testing but still people say absolutely that everyone else is wrong, everyone else is involved in a complex criminal conspiracy to hide Tadej Pogacar's cheating.
Dozens of people in California and Rwanda working seamlessly over years and tens of thousands of miles to further his cause. It sounds science fiction crazy but people repeat it, swear to it.
People go on and on and on about criminal conspiracy theories about motor use and international cover-up over years and multiple continents. It's not if Bigfoot is real, but instead what time he or she will be home for dinner.
It's an elaborate make believe world where Pogacar has not only been accused of cheating but investigated and convicted of motor doping and using some high science to win races with the help of hundreds,I
if not thousands of people he has never, will never meet..all.of it perfectly coordinated, different countries, languages, legal systems, over years since 2019.. It's absolutely perfect and all so some guy can break bicycle racing records..
People will just say despite designated people testing him, they are all involved in a criminal cover-up..
You watch a race like today were Pogacar had to fight, kick and scratch for everything, multiple riders nipping at his heels, had him under constant pressure for hours, MvdP finishing right, right behind him.. Brilliant racing by all, none of them cheated.