TdF '17 - stage 5: Vittel>La Planche des Belles Filles 160km

[Vino attacks everyone]

Aru FTW. The Angel will fly again. May the heretics and unbelievers be proven wrong.

 

[Rollthedice]

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If most of the GC guys are within 1:30 of Froome at the end of this stage, then I think we will be in for a good race.

I think it will be over with such a difference, you can add at least 45 more seconds in the last ITT. Where can anybody take 2 min plus on Froome on this parcours?

 

[Cookster15]

This stage looks custom made for Porte and he seems to be in good form. But I picked "none of the above", maybe a break takes it. Would be good to see Dan Martin get up though.

 

[Scarponi]

Kind of wish it was Froome, Evans, Nibali, Wiggins and Taamarae again. Great memories of froome beating one of the better punchers in the peleton Evans

 

[DanielSong39]

All aboard on the Sky train!

 

[rghysens]

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By the end of the day Froome will have 1' and more on everyone else.

 

[bob.a.feet]

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If most of the GC guys are within 1:30 of Froome at the end of this stage, then I think we will be in for a good race.

I think it will be over with such a difference, you can add at least 45 more seconds in the last ITT. Where can anybody take 2 min plus on Froome on this parcours?

Stage 17 and 18 could be problematic for Froome if his form declines in the third week.

 

[DFA123]

Isn't this one of these climbs that can be a bit overanalysed because it's shortish and the 20% finish, but ultimately, it's one where the strongest climber should win? This seems to me like the kind of of 15-25 minute effort like Monte Serra or Sa Calobra which the top climbers use as training benchmarks for their form.

 

[Brullnux]

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Isn't this one of these climbs that can be a bit overanalysed because it's shortish and the 20% finish, but ultimately, it's one where the strongest climber should win? This seems to me like the kind of of 15-25 minute effort like Monte Serra or Sa Calobra which the top climbers use as training benchmarks for their form.

It could be a straight TT up the climb like Nibali

 

[BigMac]

Circus season has officialy opened today.

I expect nothing less than a Sky 1-2.

 

[Sestriere]

Some riders who don't have a team job to do should try and get into the break. With a bit of luck a yellow jersey could come around by that. Particularly thinking if Gilbert and Wellens here.

 

[TomLPC]

2012 was an underrated full *** by Froome, rode most people off his wheel half the climb pulling for Wiggo then still managed to outsprint Cadel, Nibali etc. Too short to do any serious damage, I expect a record time though with skys current crop

 

[Scarponi]

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2012 was an underrated full *** by Froome, rode most people off his wheel half the climb pulling for Wiggo then still managed to outsprint Cadel, Nibali etc. Too short to do any serious damage, I expect a record time though with skys current crop

Froome pumped a flèche wallone and TDF winner after setting the pace. I feel like if he wasn't protecting Wiggins he would have gone harder and dropped taaramme and Nibali earlier and Wiggins with 1km to go and it would have been 1v1 with Evans and be still would have pulled 20 on him. Froome was barely going that day

 

[AlexNYC]

If Froome wins this with more than 20s to the next GC rider, Le Tour is over for all intents and purposes save an accident.

 

[DFA123]

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Isn't this one of these climbs that can be a bit overanalysed because it's shortish and the 20% finish, but ultimately, it's one where the strongest climber should win? This seems to me like the kind of of 15-25 minute effort like Monte Serra or Sa Calobra which the top climbers use as training benchmarks for their form.

It could be a straight TT up the climb like Nibali

I think it probably will be. It's one of the few climbs in the race where the Sky train can only be of limited assistance, due to the gradients. So if Porte, Quintana, Aru or whoever else want to gain time back and to see if Froome really is vulnerable, then going early here is surely the best option.

 

[bajbar]

I expect something very similar to this tomorrow... with Porte winning and Quintana/Aru somewhere in between.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rUN0bo-CeI

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Daniel Martin is many things, but underrated is not one of them.

Porte ftw

 

[Jericho]

Does Bora - Hansgrohe stay in the race? I'd hate to see Majka get removed

 

[Escarabajo]

Can the people that say terrible stage for stage 5 explain why?

 

[DFA123]

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Does Bora - Hansgrohe stay in the race? I'd hate to see Majka get removed

Don't see why the whole team would be excluded. In fact, to paraphase forum favourite Carlton Kirby; "Majka may not exactly be smiling at hearing of Sagan's DQ, but, well... he'll be smiling". A lot more resources on hand for him now!

 

[deValtos]

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If Froome wins this with more than 20s to the next GC rider, Le Tour is over for all intents and purposes save an accident.

This is one of Froome's best stages though. I think if he's not gaining 20+ over other riders he himself will struggle later on.

So my prediction is a Froome win and everyone to say Tour is over ...

 

[TheYouyou7]

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Can the people that say terrible stage for stage 5 explain why?

There are so many climbs in the area (eg 2014 stage) and they only managed to put that 3rd cat bs climb...

 

[rick james]

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If most of the GC guys are within 1:30 of Froome at the end of this stage, then I think we will be in for a good race.

Froome doesn't have the form right now to drop the others, its porte who will drop them all

 

[Jericho]

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Does Bora - Hansgrohe stay in the race? I'd hate to see Majka get removed

Don't see why the whole team would be excluded. In fact, to paraphase forum favourite Carlton Kirby; "Majka may not exactly be smiling at hearing of Sagan's DQ, but, well... he'll be smiling". A lot more resources on hand for him now!

The team won't be DQ'd, but I fear they may just pull out

 

[dacooley]

im expecting something like
froome
porte s.t.
quintana, aru +15
fuglsang, martin, contador, bardet +30