Tdf Sprinters 2019

[tobydawq]

But the first stage ends on a 500 metre hill at 5 percent. I can't really imagine Ewan not winning there.

 

[Cinemaniak]

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But the first stage ends on a 500 metre hill at 5 percent. I can't really imagine Ewan not winning there.

I remember Groenewegen, Viviani, Ewan and Sagan winning these type of sprints multiple times and I don't think it makes that much of a difference. It's more a case of who does best, timing his effort.

 

[tobydawq]

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But the first stage ends on a 500 metre hill at 5 percent. I can't really imagine Ewan not winning there.

I remember Groenewegen, Viviani, Ewan and Sagan winning these type of sprints multiple times and I don't think it makes that much of a difference. It's more a case of who does best, timing his effort.

It makes plenty of difference when one is 10 kilos lighter than the others.

 

[Cinemaniak]

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But the first stage ends on a 500 metre hill at 5 percent. I can't really imagine Ewan not winning there.

I remember Groenewegen, Viviani, Ewan and Sagan winning these type of sprints multiple times and I don't think it makes that much of a difference. It's more a case of who does best, timing his effort.

It makes plenty of difference when one is 10 kilos lighter than the others.

Yeah... but they don't

 

[jaylew]

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I am surprised Viviani has picked up a lot more votes than Ewan

Yeah, I'm surprised Viviani has so many votes considering he didn't win a stage in the Giro. Better train here, however.

How hard would it be to show amount of voters rather than amount of votes in a poll where we can pick more than one answer?

I don't think we can. It will be interesting to see if the new forums have polls, and if so, how they work.

I can say with utmost certainly that Cavendish isn't going to win any stages.
He ain't going.

I could swap him for Nizzolo, EBH, or Bol but I assume it will give them Cav's votes.

 

[jmdirt]

Can I change my votes? I'm actually impressed that DD made the decision.

I hope that Cav can either get on top/stay on top of his health, or call it a career.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

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Can I change my votes? I'm actually impressed that DD made the decision.

I hope that Cav can either get on top/stay on top of his health, or call it a career.

Yeah, agreed. I've heard a lot of cycling podcasts discussing the Cavendish situation, where the general concensus seemed to be that Team DD should pick Cavendish for the team, because him winning a stage was still more likely than one of their other riders winning a stage from the break.

But I disagree with that analysis. Valgren, King, EBH or Kreuziger are all more likely to win a stage than Cavendish (especially since Cavendish would not get a team that would be supporting him anyway).
So is Nizzolo, by the way.

So, honestly a very wise decision.

 

[jmdirt]

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Can I change my votes? I'm actually impressed that DD made the decision.

I hope that Cav can either get on top/stay on top of his health, or call it a career.

Yeah, agreed. I've heard a lot of cycling podcasts discussing the Cavendish situation, where the general concensus seemed to be that Team DD should pick Cavendish for the team, because him winning a stage was still more likely than one of their other riders winning a stage from the break - especially since Cavendish would not get a team that would be supporting him anyway.

But I disagree with that analysis. Valgren, King, EBH or Kreuziger are all more likely to win a stage than Cavendish. And so is Nizzolo, by the way.

So, honestly a very wise decision.

I agree that those guys, especially combined, have a better shot at winning a stage than Cav. The difference though is that Cav would get press attention no matter what, those guys will only get press if they win (especially if they also take a jersey).

 

[SHAD0W93]

Well with Cav out I only have Sagan and Groenewegen selected. I'm not confident in picking some of the others and I don't want multiple predictions so I'll stay with those two.

 

[42x16ss]

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But the first stage ends on a 500 metre hill at 5 percent. I can't really imagine Ewan not winning there.

500m at 5% will bring Sagan, EBH and Matthews into the equation. It's not a foregone conclusion by any means

 

[The Hegelian]

Kind of interesting that Sagan has been Bora's 3rd best sprinter this year.

I reckon it would be worth bringing all three to the tour. They would win a few between them, and they could play lead out shenanigans.

 

[Leinster]

At the halfway point, and with only 2, maybe 3, sprint stages left, and no repeat winners yet, it's been a pretty good Tour for sprinting. 5 stages decided on the bike throw, some quality leadouts, but still getting caught out by a follower. I notice that the top 4 in the OP poll here have won stages, and Bling is letting the side down. No mention of vanAert and Teunissen in the OP..?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I was caught out by many stages being way harder than they seemed. As some of the pure sprinters never made it there.
And Ewan is faster than I thought. In his even younger years he beat Groenewegen a couple of times, but then he seemed to evolve into more of an uphill sprinter and lost out on pure speed. But yesterday he won the easiest TDF sprint so far in terms of flatness (it was headwind tho).

No one really dominant this year.

 

[42x16ss]

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I was caught out by many stages being way harder than they seemed. As some of the pure sprinters never made it there.
And Ewan is faster than I thought. In his even younger years he beat Groenewegen a couple of times, but then he seemed to evolve into more of an uphill sprinter and lost out on pure speed. But yesterday he won the easiest TDF sprint so far in terms of flatness (it was headwind tho).

No one really dominant this year.

I was at the finish and the wind was almost entirely blocked by the trees and buildings. It was slightly downhill too, it was a brilliant turn of speed from Ewan to bring back Groenewegen.

 

[Saint Unix]

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Kind of interesting that Sagan has been Bora's 3rd best sprinter this year.

I reckon it would be worth bringing all three to the tour. They would win a few between them, and they could play lead out shenanigans.

Bringing Sagan means a guaranteed points jersey for Bora, though, and he usually picks up a stage or two along the way for good measure. Throwing Ackermann and Bennett into the mix means less points for Sagan if they get to ride for the win.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

So... chances are, the first "sprinter" to win two stages, will be van Aert? :lol:

 

[RedheadDane]

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So... chances are, the first "sprinter" to win two stages, will be van Aert? :lol:

One of them being the ITT...

 

[Leinster]

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So... chances are, the first "sprinter" to win two stages, will be van Aert? :lol:

One of them being the ITT...

It feels like that would be cheating. Although didn't Eric Vanderaerden win an ITT once upon a time? And maybe Jalabert?

 

[tobydawq]

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So... chances are, the first "sprinter" to win two stages, will be van Aert? :lol:

One of them being the ITT...

It feels like that would be cheating. Although didn't Eric Vanderaerden win an ITT once upon a time? And maybe Jalabert?

Hushovd won the prologue and the Paris stage in 2006.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

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So... chances are, the first "sprinter" to win two stages, will be van Aert? :lol:

One of them being the ITT...

The type of stage was not specified! :lol: