Is it standard practice to publish all your teams illnesses in detail?the sceptic said:If sky knew he had badzilla long before 2011, why is there no mention of it prior to the 2011 vuelta?
No-but considering they've gone into such detail about it since, it is strange.del1962 said:Is it standard practice to publish all your teams illnesses in detail?
To be fair, they have more reason to offer public explanation for Chris Froome superman than they ever did for Chris Froome middling to poor domestique.Nathan12 said:No-but considering they've gone into such detail about it since, it is strange.
Maybe it was because no one knew or cared who Froome was prior to 2011.Nathan12 said:Good question- another area where the journalists have failed to do their work. Because there's nothing- you'd think when he was undergoing treatment (as later statements say he was) after the Tour de Suisse 2011 he'd mention it. Instead he just talks about a cough and a cold.
No, but it is standard practice when you are asked explicitly about your health and you have bilharzia, and this has been identified as the reason why you didn't win the tdf the precious year, to say - "I have bilharzia".del1962 said:Is it standard practice to publish all your teams illnesses in detail?
The 2009 date they are getting from froome. He says it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGZUBtcN2GkNathan12 said:No. That would put diagnosis and beginning treatment at around January 2010. It's hard to separate Froome's story from the mass of misinformed articles that have been written though. But they must be getting their story from somewhere.
Tony Martin must be a climber nowlllludo said:Sorry to interrupt but have you watched Swifty's new outstanding performance today ?
At the Vuleta Pais Vaisoco he's just won a sprint in front of little peloton full of climbers. David Moncoutie, commenting the race for Eurosport, felt so surprised that he felt the need to dedicate his first tweet to Swifty
https://twitter.com/DavidMoncoutie/status/454645275236524032
Another spectacular and unpredictable performance for a team SKY British rider one of those guys Dear Wiggo singled out a few days ago
I bet you looked at the name of the 20 riders who arrived with Swifty today and the worst climber you could find was Martin, a guy who won Paris-Nice 3 years ago, didn't you ;-)del1962 said:Tony Martin must be a climber now![]()
Gloin22 said:] Pleaseee... from early age he was great climber for a sprinter as shown by his Worlds performance [first result]. He developed from then on. At early age he achieved those three results in the same race too showing promise in those tough sprints... He is a mediocore sprinter [b]that is a very good climber for a sprinter..[/b][/quote] There's a difference between being a very good climber for a sprinter and being a very good climber. Today there were 4 climbs in the last 60km & 1500m elevation. Movistar led a furious pace to prepare Valverde's attack. Only 20 guys survive and one of them is Swift. Guys like Nieve, Barguil, Dupont couldn't follow. So I agree with you. The guy is on top form right now. Kind of like when Jalabert, another sprinter who could climb, won the Vuelta
I forgive Froome for not being the first person that had/has an illness and doesn't get the basic facts about it right.ScienceIsCool said:So why is Chris so uninformed (http://www.bicycling.com/news/pro-cycling/chris-froome-how-i-became-tour-winner):
"The bilharzia was huge because in our sport if you are tired and unfit, it is going to be tough. Basically bilharzia is the opposite of EPO. It sucks out the red blood cells and leaves you depleted. And it comes in waves. There are eggs [from the parasite] in your body and once the eggs hatch they start multiplying. That is why I have tests every six months. In fact, it has been awhile. I have to get back to Africa and check that out. "
John Swanson
Still surprised Moncoutie though.Gloin22 said:http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=8699
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=10966
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=10968
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=10969
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Pleaseee... from early age he was great climber for a sprinter as shown by his Worlds performance [first result]. He developed from then on. At early age he achieved those three results in the same race too showing promise in those tough sprints...
He is a mediocore sprinter that is a very good climber for a sprinter..
Unpredictable? The guy came 3rd in MSR and was in form in the Italian stage race. Maybe unexpected, but he has the form for sure.
Let's assume that's exactly what he did. So what, is Tony Martin a climber now?lllludo said:I bet you looked at the name of the 20 riders who arrived with Swifty today and the worst climber you could find was Martin, a guy who won Paris-Nice 3 years ago, didn't you ;-)
Well, when he was 24 years old in he finished 2nd on Mt. Ventoux. The current best climber in the world, was getting thrown out of races at age 24 for holding onto cars whilst going uphill.RownhamHill said:Let's assume that's exactly what he did. So what, is Tony Martin a climber now?
So is that a convoluted way of saying no?BYOP88 said:Well, when he was 24 years old in he finished 2nd on Mt. Ventoux. The current best climber in the world, was getting thrown out of races at age 24 for holding onto cars whilst going uphill.
So if Martin is lucky and catches 'badzilla' and can lose some weight and not lose his power, cycling will have a German GT winner it can believe in.
No I didn't, I watched the race and saw that Tony Martin was pulling for Kwiatowski in the group. I didn't bother going through all the riders, I know guys like Slagter where in their as well, hardly a big GC climberlllludo said:I bet you looked at the name of the 20 riders who arrived with Swifty today and the worst climber you could find was Martin, a guy who won Paris-Nice 3 years ago, didn't you ;-)
Del, wash your mouth out! You'll upset the Aussie's that come here by saying their race doesn't attract the big GC climbersdel1962 said:No I didn't, I watched the race and saw that Tony Martin was pulling for Kwiatowski in the group. I didn't bother going through all the riders, I know guys like Slagter where in their as well, hardly a big GC climber
Fixed it for youBYOP88 said:Well, when he was 24 years old in he finished 2nd on Mt. Ventoux. The current best climber in the world, was getting thrown out of races at age 24 for holding onto cars whilst going uphill.
So if Martin is lucky and catches 'badzilla' and can lose some weight and gain power, cycling will have a German GT winner it can believe in.