Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[Ripper]

Bottom line is that it's not going to happen for Sky, or Froome, GT wise, this season.
Nothing going smoothly to plan, rather it's a very rough ride.

Enjoy it for what it is and what it will be: failure.
Enjoy it for the prospect of more open and uncontrolled racing at the Giro and Tour.
No need for yet more pointless and unlikely speculation.

Looks like you're correct. When things are this rough at this stage, it's hard to see it working out for the big show. Too many steps backward when your sick or injured ... time's too short to recoup it now.

 

[Nathan12]

Looks like you're correct. When things are this rough at this stage, it's hard to see it working out for the big show. Too many steps backward when your sick or injured ... time's too short to recoup it now.

In 2012 Froome had very little racing before the Tour, was ill just like he has been this Spring, and he should have won that race. He doesn't seem to need that much preparation...

 

[the sceptic]

70 Nathan Earle (Aus) Team Sky 0:05:16
DNF Richie Porte (Aus) Team Sky
DNF Ian Boswell (USA) Team Sky
DNF Joshua Edmondson (GBr) Team Sky
DNF David Lopez Garcia (Spa) Team Sky
DNS Christopher Froome (GBr) Team Sky

beautiful..

 

[The Hitch]

Could be a virus running through the team - that heartbleed bug perhaps - maybe the Skybots are still running XP

They forgot to wash their hands.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

They forgot to wash their hands.

Contaminated pillows, or rotten pineapple juice...

 

[Ripper]

In 2012 Froome had very little racing before the Tour, was ill just like he has been this Spring, and he should have won that race. He doesn't seem to need that much preparation...

Yes, but the rest of the team was doing better towards the run in. My comment was more about the team as a whole. I anticipate without much team support that alien-Froome will run into difficulties.

 

[BYOP88]

Yes, but the rest of the team was doing better towards the run in. My comment was more about the team as a whole. I anticipate without much team support that alien-Froome will run into difficulties.

Don't worry they'll all be running full gas in July.

 

[mikeoneill]

has the UCI implemented any recent changes in anti-doping since the independent audit which identified 9 problem areas?

 

[veganrob]

brailsfraud needs to hire a doping doctor to deal with all those illnesses

When somebody gets a saddle sore then they'll call the doping doctor.

 

[mikeoneill]

what'll happen if froome bombs at the tour?

will it be proof of doping?

what will brailstorms excuse be?

 

[Nathan12]

what'll happen if froome bombs at the tour?

will it be proof of doping?

what will brailstorms excuse be?

He won't bomb. A repeat of last year's performance would still be enough to beat this year's Contador. For whatever reason, they didn't want him racing Liege today- I have a hunch we'll see in Romandie that his form is scary good. Which will invite more questions of its own.

 

[deeno1975]

Contaminated pillows, or rotten pineapple juice...

Serous case of Nutella contamination!

 

[mikeoneill]

I have a hunch we'll see in Romandie that his form is scary good.

could be

this is his first year without the badzilla that has been dawgging him

 

[trevim]

My guess is that they are just keeping guys like Kyri, Nieve and Lopez fresh and fit for the Tour instead of riding them to the ground like last year.
Also Froome will be winning Romandie pretty easy is my guess.

 

[the sceptic]

Did they turn to garbage before or after the Henao bust? Seems like it could be a connection there.. maybe they are scared.

 

[argyllflyer]

Michael Barry says Tramadol used regularly at Sky.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmQhwM1CMAIPlG3.jpg

 

[argyllflyer]

My guess is that they are just keeping guys like Kyri, Nieve and Lopez fresh and fit for the Tour instead of riding them to the ground like last year.
Also Froome will be winning Romandie pretty easy is my guess.

Was Lopez not on the deck today after the crash with Costa?

 

[Dear Wiggo]

team sky makes move into smoothies and porridges with new cnp sports nutrition range

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“with the nutritional credibility of cnp and the team sky track record of consistently improving performance, we have a proposition that is different from anything else on the market,”
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http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/fmcg/team-sky-makes-move-into-smoothies-and-porridges/356768.article

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[deviant]

Michael Barry says Tramadol used regularly at Sky.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmQhwM1CMAIPlG3.jpg

And?..... It's not prohibited so what's the problem?

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Needs separate lists for the broken bones, knee problems and crashes, which are obviously just bad luck, and the illnesses and DNFs, which on their own would be explicable but together suggest something much stranger. Could be as simple as: when you obsess over weight so much, you're bound at some stage to find your riders getting ill.

Now, Sky are getting ill. Constantly. Is it that something's changed, or just that they've been very fortunate in the last couple of years and now the amount of time spent at that kind of weight loss program has caught up with them?

That´s the most resonable explanations. Regression to the mean...

 

[martinvickers]

And?..... It's not prohibited so what's the problem?

1. It's on the edge, and the Barry Article suggests at the least it's being used far too liberally. There may be a touch of "Buy My Book" about it, but there's no real reason to doubt any account he might give, at least on the fundamentals.

2. It may well ought to be banned, at the very least for racing. If he effects are as suggested, it really ought to be.

If it's use and effect are as suggested by the article, then, no, it's not doping, strictly speaking. But it's not exactly ethical either, and the sooner it's banned the better.

If it's use is as suggested, this would be very consistent with the 'grey area' many believe Sky are operating in. And probably BC, for that matter.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

All this can be solved using Tramadol

Nope. It doesn´t heal knees and backs, as it doesn´t bring back my lost teeth, even tough I used lots of Tramadol.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

He won't bomb. A repeat of last year's performance would still be enough to beat this year's Contador. For whatever reason, they didn't want him racing Liege today- I have a hunch we'll see in Romandie that his form is scary good. Which will invite more questions of its own.

I don´t know. Last time they raced against each other, Froome tried his attack. Only that it didn´t work like last year. I am sure (if he stays healthy) AC will win the TdF.

 

[red_flanders]

If it's use is as suggested, this would be very consistent with the 'grey area' many believe Sky are operating in. And probably BC, for that matter.

Do you have more details on this "grey area"? What does this mean? Who believes this is the case? What are the details of this viewpoint?

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

If it's use is as suggested, this would be very consistent with the 'grey area' many believe Sky are operating in. And probably BC, for that matter.

At least it fits. The photo with Wiggins (the pill looked like the size of Tramadol), own experience: even though Tramadol really kills pain, it also makes you kinda dizzy (it´s explicit warned to not engage in road traffic. And cycling is very heavy "road traffic"). This could explain the many crashes. Add in the weight loss fetish, and regression to the mean, we pretty much arrived at the very dark "grey area" and explanation of the mounting injuries. My two cents for the most likely...

What is BC? Blood contamination? If you mean that, I would count that out. A team with deep pockets and knowledge certainly knows how to prevent infections. I mean the PDM days are gone...