Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[Ryo Hazuki]

Remember though, we've been saying for the last two years that it's unbelievable that athletes who are operating so far underweight for such long periods of time are not getting ill, because normally you would be susceptible to illnesses in such a manner (certainly we see that regularly with other teams and other endurance athletes such as runners, Nordic skiers and biathletes). Wiggins never got so much as a cold on his almost unprecedented run of domination in 2012, and Froome had nary a setback in his repeat performance in 2013.

Now, Sky are getting ill. Constantly. Is it that something's changed, or just that they've been very fortunate in the last couple of years and now the amount of time spent at that kind of weight loss program has caught up with them?

it's very simple. overtraining their body's. last year aldo toni said if sky don't change their training and weight reducing tactics(wiggins, not froome btw) froome will be done for within 2 years.

 

[SundayRider]

The injuries/illnesses aren't particularly suspect, its been the last minute nature of these withdrawals.

 

[sniper]

The injuries/illnesses aren't particularly suspect, its been the last minute nature of these withdrawals.

that and the way they coincide with the JTL and Henao issues.

 

[JRanton]

Remember though, we've been saying for the last two years that it's unbelievable that athletes who are operating so far underweight for such long periods of time are not getting ill, because normally you would be susceptible to illnesses in such a manner (certainly we see that regularly with other teams and other endurance athletes such as runners, Nordic skiers and biathletes). Wiggins never got so much as a cold on his almost unprecedented run of domination in 2012, and Froome had nary a setback in his repeat performance in 2013.

Now, Sky are getting ill. Constantly. Is it that something's changed, or just that they've been very fortunate in the last couple of years and now the amount of time spent at that kind of weight loss program has caught up with them?

Probably everything catching up with them. The signs were already there last year after the Tour.

 

[JRanton]

I didn't know Sebastian Henao had gone back to Colombia too?

Yeah, he was pulled from their Trentino team to go back to Colombia and keep Sergio company.

 

[Saint Unix]

Froome missed the plane to Liége. Marginal gains.

 

[JRanton]

Froome missed the plane to Liége. Marginal gains.

Seriously?

Sky say they examined him this morning in Liege.

 

[Ferminal]

errr wrong thread.

 

[Saint Unix]

Seriously?

Sky say they examined him this morning in Liege.

Might have got on a later plane. Froome and Boswell both missed the plane they were supposed to get.

 

[JRanton]

Full list of issues with Sky riders this season:


Dombrowski - Has suffered with knee problems all season. Only completed one race day. Scheduled to make his comeback in California.

Stannard - Crashed in G-W and is out injured with a back injury. Return unknown.

Sutton - Also crashed in G-W and is out injured with a knee injury. Scheduled to return in Romandie.

Deignan - Broke his collarbone in a training accident in February and has just recently returned to racing.

Sergio Henao - The altitude native has returned to Colombia to undergo testing after Sky found a suspicious blood value.

Sebastian Henao - Has returned to Colombia to keep his cousin company.

JTL - needs no explanation.

Kennaugh - A bizarre season from this one: http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/rider_palm.asp?riderid=10644&year=2014&all=1&current=0 Pulled out of LBL due to feeling ''empty'' and has an illness.

Kiryienka - Has pulled out of Romandie due to illness. Also DNF'd Pais Vasco.

Nieve - Picked up an illness in Catalunya, which continued to affect him in Pais Vasco. Scheduled to ride Romandie.

Porte - Fell ill with gastro at Tirreno. Also DNF'd Catalunya but is back today riding LBL.

Froome - Pulled out of Tirreno due to a back injury. Pulled out of LBL due to a ''mild chest infection''. Scheduled to ride Romandie.

Cataldo - Pulled out of Tirreno due to illness but has since returned to racing.

Thomas - Involved in numerous crashes.

Rasch - Retired after Roubaix.


No known health/injury issues this season: EBH, Boswell, Earle, Edmondson, Eisel, Knees, Lopez, Pate, Puccio, Rowe, Siutsou, Swift, Zandio.

Wiggins has had various changes to his racing schedule but I don't think any were health or injury related.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Had to pop in for a look and a laugh.
O course. Must be fear of testing, rather than just an infection.
Stands to reason......................around here.

Yet, Wiggins is starting to show up pretty well.
Certainly, better than predicted.

Bottom line is that it's not going to happen for Sky, or Froome, GT wise, this season.
Nothing going smoothly to plan, rather it's a very rough ride.

Enjoy it for what it is and what it will be: failure.
Enjoy it for the prospect of more open and uncontrolled racing at the Giro and Tour.
No need for yet more pointless and unlikely speculation.

Interesting choice of words...

 

[Ferminal]

Kennaugh - A bizarre season from this one: http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/rider_palm.asp?riderid=10644&year=2014&all=1&current=0 Pulled out of LBL due to feeling ''empty'' and has an illness.

Late call up to be leader for the Giro.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Could be a virus running through the team - that heartbleed bug perhaps - maybe the Skybots are still running XP

 

[JRanton]

Late call up to be leader for the Giro.

I doubt he'll even start the Giro.

 

[the sceptic]

Could be a virus running through the team - that heartbleed bug perhaps - maybe the Skybots are still running XP

maybe the badzilla has spread.

I bet they are just saving the Dawg for the tour though. I doubt anything is wrong with him.

6 month peak doesnt work that well when the rest of the peloton is going full *** too.

 

[Afrank]

Full list of issues with Sky riders this season:


Dombrowski - Has suffered with knee problems all season. Only completed one race day. Scheduled to make his comeback in California.

Stannard - Crashed in G-W and is out injured with a back injury. Return unknown.

Sutton - Also crashed in G-W and is out injured with a knee injury. Scheduled to return in Romandie.

Deignan - Broke his collarbone in a training accident in February and has just recently returned to racing.

Sergio Henao - The altitude native has returned to Colombia to undergo testing after Sky found a suspicious blood value.

Sebastian Henao - Has returned to Colombia to keep his cousin company.

JTL - needs no explanation.

Kennaugh - A bizarre season from this one: http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/rider_palm.asp?riderid=10644&year=2014&all=1&current=0 Pulled out of LBL due to feeling ''empty'' and has an illness.

Kiryienka - Has pulled out of Romandie due to illness. Also DNF'd Pais Vasco.

Nieve - Picked up an illness in Catalunya, which continued to affect him in Pais Vasco. Scheduled to ride Romandie.

Porte - Fell ill with gastro at Tirreno. Also DNF'd Catalunya but is back today riding LBL.

Froome - Pulled out of Tirreno due to a back injury. Pulled out of LBL due to a ''mild chest infection''. Scheduled to ride Romandie.

Cataldo - Pulled out of Tirreno due to illness but has since returned to racing.

Thomas - Involved in numerous crashes.

Rasch - Retired after Roubaix.


No known health/injury issues this season: EBH, Boswell, Earle, Edmondson, Eisel, Knees, Lopez, Pate, Puccio, Rowe, Siutsou, Swift, Zandio.

Wiggins has had various changes to his racing schedule but I don't think any were health or injury related.

Good summary, I never realized how many Sky riders were actually currently or recently dealing with problems due to sickness, injury, or other reasons.

Some of this aren't suspicious in the least, like the broken bones (Deignan, Stannard, Sutton, etc.). But then a few of them do make one wonder. Of course the big one being Froome (just what is wrong with him ).

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Ah sorry, kennaugh and Kiryienka out of Romandie

Yeah more my bad as registered by CN, who had missed out the 7th name entirely... :-/

Kennaugh was down to race on Sky's website, but CN had not listed him.

 

[sniper]

Of course the big one being Froome (just what is wrong with him ).

perhaps he's also allergic to pollen.
high pollen count in belgium this spring.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Wormsign .

 

[Ferminal]

Wormsign .

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Froome's beautiful disease.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Interesting choice of words...

Purely intentional.

 

[Nathan12]

Full list of issues with Sky riders this season:


Dombrowski - Has suffered with knee problems all season. Only completed one race day. Scheduled to make his comeback in California.

Stannard - Crashed in G-W and is out injured with a back injury. Return unknown.

Sutton - Also crashed in G-W and is out injured with a knee injury. Scheduled to return in Romandie.

Deignan - Broke his collarbone in a training accident in February and has just recently returned to racing.

Sergio Henao - The altitude native has returned to Colombia to undergo testing after Sky found a suspicious blood value.

Sebastian Henao - Has returned to Colombia to keep his cousin company.

JTL - needs no explanation.

Kennaugh - A bizarre season from this one: http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/rider_palm.asp?riderid=10644&year=2014&all=1&current=0 Pulled out of LBL due to feeling ''empty'' and has an illness.

Kiryienka - Has pulled out of Romandie due to illness. Also DNF'd Pais Vasco.

Nieve - Picked up an illness in Catalunya, which continued to affect him in Pais Vasco. Scheduled to ride Romandie.

Porte - Fell ill with gastro at Tirreno. Also DNF'd Catalunya but is back today riding LBL.

Froome - Pulled out of Tirreno due to a back injury. Pulled out of LBL due to a ''mild chest infection''. Scheduled to ride Romandie.

Cataldo - Pulled out of Tirreno due to illness but has since returned to racing.

Thomas - Involved in numerous crashes.

Rasch - Retired after Roubaix.


No known health/injury issues this season: EBH, Boswell, Earle, Edmondson, Eisel, Knees, Lopez, Pate, Puccio, Rowe, Siutsou, Swift, Zandio.

Wiggins has had various changes to his racing schedule but I don't think any were health or injury related.

Needs separate lists for the broken bones, knee problems and crashes, which are obviously just bad luck, and the illnesses and DNFs, which on their own would be explicable but together suggest something much stranger. Could be as simple as: when you obsess over weight so much, you're bound at some stage to find your riders getting ill.

 

[The Hitch]

brailsfraud needs to hire a doping doctor to deal with all those illnesses

 

[del1962]

Full list of issues with Sky riders this season:


Dombrowski - Has suffered with knee problems all season. Only completed one race day. Scheduled to make his comeback in California.

Stannard - Crashed in G-W and is out injured with a back injury. Return unknown.

Sutton - Also crashed in G-W and is out injured with a knee injury. Scheduled to return in Romandie.

Deignan - Broke his collarbone in a training accident in February and has just recently returned to racing.

Sergio Henao - The altitude native has returned to Colombia to undergo testing after Sky found a suspicious blood value.

Sebastian Henao - Has returned to Colombia to keep his cousin company.

JTL - needs no explanation.

Kennaugh - A bizarre season from this one: http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/rider_palm.asp?riderid=10644&year=2014&all=1&current=0 Pulled out of LBL due to feeling ''empty'' and has an illness.

Kiryienka - Has pulled out of Romandie due to illness. Also DNF'd Pais Vasco.

Nieve - Picked up an illness in Catalunya, which continued to affect him in Pais Vasco. Scheduled to ride Romandie.

Porte - Fell ill with gastro at Tirreno. Also DNF'd Catalunya but is back today riding LBL.

Froome - Pulled out of Tirreno due to a back injury. Pulled out of LBL due to a ''mild chest infection''. Scheduled to ride Romandie.

Cataldo - Pulled out of Tirreno due to illness but has since returned to racing.

Thomas - Involved in numerous crashes.

Rasch - Retired after Roubaix.


No known health/injury issues this season: EBH, Boswell, Earle, Edmondson, Eisel, Knees, Lopez, Pate, Puccio, Rowe, Siutsou, Swift, Zandio.

Wiggins has had various changes to his racing schedule but I don't think any were health or injury related.

All this can be solved using Tramadol