Ngl, even as a Sky fan, the highlights I just watched today were just disgusting. Froome - Porte 1-2 is bad enough but Thomas getting top 5? Give me a break
Who do you think facilitates it? All of the staff released had either doped themselves (Yates, Julich, De Jongh etc) or had actually doped athletes (Leinders). Getting rid of the bad influences is just as important as removing the guys who won't stop cheating.daz said:If sky really wanted to race clean they would have fired the riders who were doping a few years ago instead of the doctors and staff who had nothing to do with it
oh come on, it wasn't that bad. Thomas was only 6th (s.t as 5th)PremierAndrew said:Ngl, even as a Sky fan, the highlights I just watched today were just disgusting. Froome - Porte 1-2 is bad enough but Thomas getting top 5? Give me a break
Cimber said:Alpe d'Huez said:Beautiful. At the rate Sky is going, if Lance keeps these comments up he's going to be my hero.Enrico Gimondi said:@lancearmstrong - Clearly Froome/Porte/Sky are very strong. Too strong to be clean? Don't ask me, I have no clue.
Wonder if Sky and Froome would have whipped USP and Lance if they were head to head today
dlwssonic said:You guys should go to /r/peloton in reddit.
The amount of sky fanboys and "believers" there are toxic
It was a stunning finale, but the time gaps were not that huge. Froome beat Quintana by just over a minute. Eddy Merckx won a stage by over nine minutes back in 1969.
Alexandre B. said:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/cycling/chris-froome/11740195/Chris-Froome-suffers-from-legacy-of-Lance-Armstrong-after-classic-performance-in-first-mountain-stage.html
It was a stunning finale, but the time gaps were not that huge. Froome beat Quintana by just over a minute. Eddy Merckx won a stage by over nine minutes back in 1969.
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Cimber said:@Emma_OReilly: The more things change, the more they stay the same!
https://twitter.com/emma_oreilly/status/620975100767158276
I don't visit reddit, nor have I any interest in exploring these other forums, but from my experience on here and on twitter, the vast majority of Sky's defenders seem to come from the otherside of the spectrum, middle to old age men, all extremely nationalistic , for whom wiggos and now froomes victories "on behalf" of Great Britain, represent something far more emotional than just a guy winning a sports event and for that reason feel strongly compelled to defend it, against al logic.Cancelled said:dlwssonic said:You guys should go to /r/peloton in reddit.
The amount of sky fanboys and "believers" there are toxic
Sounds like most of Reddit these days. Full of clueless people who haven't sniffed the real world or overused memes... r/peloton looks like it is 95% the former.
Singer01 said:sky should do everything in their power to sign the yates brothers, the sudden transformation stick would suddenly become useless.
vedrafjord said:Anyone miss the glory days three years ago of Wiggins riding tempo at 5.7 w/kg shielded by team mates? Seems pretty believable compared to the current shenanigans.
Bearing in mind he had been on a peak for 6 months?King Boonen said:vedrafjord said:Anyone miss the glory days three years ago of Wiggins riding tempo at 5.7 w/kg shielded by team mates? Seems pretty believable compared to the current shenanigans.
I've always said the way Wiggins won the tour was believable.
NOTE!!! I'm not saying I necessarily believe Wiggins was clean or that specifically he could win the Tour like that. just that the WAY in which the tour was won that year seemed much more believable.
The Hitch said:Bearing in mind he had been on a peak for 6 months?King Boonen said:vedrafjord said:Anyone miss the glory days three years ago of Wiggins riding tempo at 5.7 w/kg shielded by team mates? Seems pretty believable compared to the current shenanigans.
I've always said the way Wiggins won the tour was believable.
NOTE!!! I'm not saying I necessarily believe Wiggins was clean or that specifically he could win the Tour like that. just that the WAY in which the tour was won that year seemed much more believable.
Even Froome said that he feels better this year because in 2013 he had been riding hard all year and got tired from that. Wiggo did that to an even greater extent in 2012. He was 2nd in Algarve in Feb, won Paris Nice in March, won Romandie in April/May, won Dauphine in June, then came 2nd in the prologue on day 1 and won by a minute the final tt that came on the penultimate day, exactly 3 weeks later. Then was praised as the strongest rider in the olympic road race 1 week later, and won the olympic time trial another 4 days later.
So even if we take the wiggins factor out of it and ignore for a sec the discussion about whether wiggins was capable of climbing and tt ing like that, I don't think that performance that year is remotely believable. As I've posted before here he scored 48 points per day cq wise that year. The next best (besides Froome at 47) is Gilbert 2011 at 43 and Contador 09 is 42 and Armstrong at his best was mid 30's.