Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[buckle]

Re: Sky

Two corporations who might stand to win from busting Sky are British Telecom and the BBC. The former is in a commercial war and the latter is slowly losing all its sports' portfolio plus jobs (and funding) under this UK government.

 

[Archibald]

Re:

LOL

UK Postal getting the inside Knowledge from US Postal

.....and yet people get mad when SKY is "unfairly" compared to US Postal after the facts are irrefutably pointing out how BOTH teams structures are based on massive/systematic doping practices to obtain results.

do we really need another 10 years of waiting and a SKY whistle blower to accept that is so evident? Oprah might not be around for a disclosure interview......

Jeremy Kyle
"we'll reveal the results of the test after the break"...

 

[Mayo from Mayo]

Interesting article in Liberation. Pierre Ballester appears to take a slightly different view from his erstwhile 'copain', Walsh.

http://www.liberation.fr/sports/2015/07/15/pierre-ballester-froome-et-la-sky-sont-la-pour-tuer-le-tour-pas-pour-faire-rever_1348471

 

[doperhopper]

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Interesting article in Liberation. Pierre Ballester appears to take a slightly different view from his erstwhile 'copain', Walsh.

http://www.liberation.fr/sports/2015/07/15/pierre-ballester-froome-et-la-sky-sont-la-pour-tuer-le-tour-pas-pour-faire-rever_1348471

Made my day:

Difference between Froome and Armstrong?
No VroomCharity!

Well, yet... how about some AlienStrong - Mutants Against Badzilla

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Re: Re:

Interesting article in Liberation. Pierre Ballester appears to take a slightly different view from his erstwhile 'copain', Walsh.

http://www.liberation.fr/sports/2015/07/15/pierre-ballester-froome-et-la-sky-sont-la-pour-tuer-le-tour-pas-pour-faire-rever_1348471

Made my day:

Difference between Froome and Armstrong?
No VroomCharity!

Well, yet... how about some AlienStrong - Mutants Against Badzilla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD9rGyff34o

Published on 20 Nov 2013

2013 Tour de France winner Chris Froome left the country on Tuesday after a 10-day visit. While in Kenya, the British cyclist shared his plans of setting up a cycling foundation with his old mentor and friend David Kinjah. The Kenyan-born Teamsky cyclist also shared his experience during his time in Kenya and what prompted his move to Britain where he achieved his greatest success.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/19/us-cycling-froome-kenya-idUSBRE9AI0Z020131119


Cannot find anything current, however.

 

[Andreasjs]

I do not like Sky, Froome, Porte etc at all and I do "feel" they are doping but if I am objective, what is the most realiable indications that they are doping? I say indications because there are no hard evidence, true?

What I see is:
- Froome almost coming out of nowhere becoming the pretty much the best TTer and climber around

- the team dominating TdF for 4 years and looking with a lot of potential for another few years of victories (Froome would be podium last year probably if it had not been for his crash)

- super strong domestiques

- performances at the edge of what supposedly is humanly possible

- performances which is in line with times of the "good old days"

- a couple of TUE events

Honestly, what I feel is the strongest indication, is the super strong domestique performance. It could be that froome is really just super super strong, who knows. Real genetic freaks that can do superior performances, do exist although rare. He could be one. But seeing eg. how Porte in the Giro was pretty week and suddenly he pulls the peleton and beats Quintana, just smells. Two genetic freaks on the same team, no....

What else should I add to my list? What do you think is the strongest indication of doping

 

[Gung Ho Gun]

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What I see is:
- Froome almost coming out of nowhere becoming the pretty much the best TTer and climber around
- the team dominating TdF for 4 years and looking with a lot of potential for another few years of victories (Froome would be podium last year probably if it had not been for his crash)
- super strong domestiques
- performances at the edge of what supposedly is humanly possible
- performances which is in line with times of the "good old days"
- a couple of TUE events

- Working with Leinders, de Jongh, Julich, ... and pretending not to know they had anything to do with doping
- Wiggins losing weight to improve his climbing and simultaneously improving his TT at age > 30
- Rogers being a known Ferrari/Freiburg/Whatever client yet reaching his best climbing level at Sky

 

[Franklin]

Their Director Sportiff visiting the dope courier of Lance with the Sky automobile.

I'm still laughing about that one, you need insane amounts of layers of denial not to wonder about that incident

 

[neineinei]

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Their Director Sportiff visiting the dope courier of Lance with the Sky automobile.

I'm still laughing about that one, you need insane amounts of layers of denial not to wonder about that incident

or if you prefer, the redacted version from the "Reasoned decision":
http://d3epuodzu3wuis.cloudfront.net/FA+Exhibit+A+-+photo.pdf

 

[Fedoracore]

Hagen and Cavendish suddenly cant climb no more since their departure from Sky. How come that they could actually climb infront of Wiggo/Froome in 2012&13.

 

[Merckx index]

LOL, love this from the CN intro to today's stage (written, obviously, before the Tour started):

This is the kind of stage that Sky would have tried to dominate two or three years ago. When they had the best GC rider and the strongest, most disciplined and best-prepared team, it made sense for them to sit on the front of the peloton and set a fast pace. Once most of their rivals had been dropped, Bradley Wiggins and Chris Froome could then go on and take the time they needed to win the Tour. However, Sky haven’t quite reached those heights since 2013

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Too much mirth. It's like still seeing Robert Millar's "Robert Millar: Now there are five contenders for the Tour de France, not four" blog post on the front page up until a day ago or so.

 

[The Hitch]

They are killing racing. There is a group of 10 riders and Sky have 3 of them. Totally unfussed if guys like Contador or Nibali attack. G Thomas and Richie Porte have those two riders worth 12/10 gts between them, under control.

They don't even react if these guys attack. They can bring back best non sky riders back easily without making any effort.

 

[Parrulo]

It is sickening to see Porte and Thomas dealing with Contador, Nibali and Valverde like if they were some second tier riders.

Thomas in particularly is just becoming hilarious

 

[Dear Wiggo]

2 of the 3 contenders are on Team Sky.

 

[infeXio]

Hahahaha, G. Thomas

 

[red_flanders]

Re:

They are killing racing. There is a group of 10 riders and Sky have 3 of them. Totally unfussed if guys like Contador or Nibali attack. G Thomas and Richie Porte have those two riders worth 12/10 gts between them, under control.

They don't even react if these guys attack. They can bring back best non sky riders back easily without making any effort.

Absurd. I said this in the other thread, but Jens hilarious just now when Contador attacked. "Good attack but how long can he keep up 500-600 watts?"

 

[Parrulo]

Geraint Thomas just casually brings back the greatest climbing prodigy of the last 10 our 20 years.

Like Anderson Silva used to say "Is Normal"

 

[Benotti69]

Vaughters not tweeting about today's stage, he knows, he rode on a team like this..........

 

[Sasquatch]

Re: Sky

This is *** ridiculous.

 

[infeXio]

HAHAHAHA

 

[BullsFan22]

Re: Sky

A BIG FAT LMFAO.

 

[BigMac]

I thought it couldn't get more outrageous, but the worst, me thinks, is still to come in the Alps.

 

[red_flanders]

Good thing Thomas is here to re-establish his climbing dominance. Ludicrous.

 

[58teeth]

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Good thing Thomas is here to re-establish his climbing dominance. Ludicrous.

LOL!