Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[LaFlorecita]

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"Alberto Contador is an anti doping hero"

but he is. Just ask Walsh.

Alberto Contador was on his knees in the mountains. Reasonable to believe he is racing last phase of his career clean.

https://twitter.com/DavidWalshST/status/625231446412820480

Assuming he's been riding clean in the last two-three years, that would make him one of the greatest of modern cycling history. Let's say the second greatest behind Chris "five diseases, six doctors" Froome.

Omg Walsh

 

[Catwhoorg]

https://twitter.com/TheRaceRadio/status/698147352897392641

Oli Cookson, until recently Performance Coordinator at Team Sky, is now working at Team Dimension Data.

 

[thehog]

Re:

https://twitter.com/TheRaceRadio/status/698147352897392641

Oli Cookson, until recently Performance Coordinator at Team Sky, is now working at Team Dimension Data.

Good on him. A promotion I assume. Well done.

 

[pastronef]

Re:

https://twitter.com/TheRaceRadio/status/698147352897392641

Oli Cookson, until recently Performance Coordinator at Team Sky, is now working at Team Dimension Data.

nice news
and I speak as a Sky fan.

 

[sniper]

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at last, freed from the yoke of his father.

 

[Benotti69]

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at last, freed from the yoke of his father.

Or commanded to go forth and seek new 'opportunites' in SA.

 

[bobbins]

The team has 4 doctors and one medical assistant. What on earth is wrong with their riders that means they need 4 doctors? Each race they attend has a medical team in attendance so they have no need to be at races.

 

[blackcat]

soon they will have four engineers, one wrench

and a wrench is the american parlance, it is idiom for mechanic, so what I am really saying, four electrical and mechanical engineers, only one mechanic, no doctors, no embrocations, no need to Freddy Viaene's massage oils or massage balms.

can someone please tell me the difference what the difference is between a Freddy Viaene massage oil, and a Freddy Viaene massage balm.

and what is a embrocation for chrissakes. someone?

 

[LeindersGains]

And as I predicted, Porte is done. Down Under was his last race on the top.

He will fail in Paris-Nice and even more in Catalunya. And DNF in the second or third week of the Tour.

 

[pastronef]

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The team has 4 doctors and one medical assistant. What on earth is wrong with their riders that means they need 4 doctors? Each race they attend has a medical team in attendance so they have no need to be at races.

Dimension data has 3 doctors and 1 Dr. Head of Perf. Support & Medical
Trek has 4 doctors
Etixx has 4 doctors
Lotto Soudal has 7 people in medical staff
Tinkoff has 6 doctors/therapists
etc etc

 

[glassmoon]

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The team has 4 doctors and one medical assistant. What on earth is wrong with their riders that means they need 4 doctors? Each race they attend has a medical team in attendance so they have no need to be at races.

Dimension data has 3 doctors and 1 Dr. Head of Perf. Support & Medical
Trek has 4 doctors
Etixx has 4 doctors
Lotto Soudal has 7 people in medical staff
Tinkoff has 6 doctors/therapists
etc etc

so... basically all dope just about the same

 

[bobbins]

Maybe the UCI should ban doctors and medical support. There's no reason they should have them. I worked for a company with about a thousand staff on the one site and we had no permanent doctor there.

 

[pastronef]

Re: Re:

The team has 4 doctors and one medical assistant. What on earth is wrong with their riders that means they need 4 doctors? Each race they attend has a medical team in attendance so they have no need to be at races.

Dimension data has 3 doctors and 1 Dr. Head of Perf. Support & Medical
Trek has 4 doctors
Etixx has 4 doctors
Lotto Soudal has 7 people in medical staff
Tinkoff has 6 doctors/therapists
etc etc

so... basically all dope just about the same

yes, maybe Bobbins didn't have a look at other team's staff and just shouted WOW 4 doctors for Sky!

 

[bobbins]

Re: Re:

The team has 4 doctors and one medical assistant. What on earth is wrong with their riders that means they need 4 doctors? Each race they attend has a medical team in attendance so they have no need to be at races.

Dimension data has 3 doctors and 1 Dr. Head of Perf. Support & Medical
Trek has 4 doctors
Etixx has 4 doctors
Lotto Soudal has 7 people in medical staff
Tinkoff has 6 doctors/therapists
etc etc

so... basically all dope just about the same

yes, maybe Bobbins didn't have a look at other team's staff and just shouted WOW 4 doctors for Sky!

Isn't this the Sky thread? Apologies for being on-topic

 

[pastronef]

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yes, maybe Bobbins didn't have a look at other team's staff and just shouted WOW 4 doctors for Sky!

Isn't this the Sky thread? Apologies for being on-topic

yes it is. since almost all teams have 3-4 doctors I didnt see the reason to ask what's wrong with their riders

 

[bobbins]

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yes, maybe Bobbins didn't have a look at other team's staff and just shouted WOW 4 doctors for Sky!

Isn't this the Sky thread? Apologies for being on-topic

yes it is. since almost all teams have 3-4 doctors I didnt see the reason to ask what's wrong with their riders

I'm just surprised that a team has 4 doctors, does it really matter what other teams do? Why would a team, any team need 4 doctors? Doping isn't going away so maybe the UCI should make it tougher for teams to enable doping? What would a team with a zero tolerance policy for doping need 4 doctors for?

 

[peloton]

Measuring weights?

 

[Dear Wiggo]

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from a ZTP pov, the signing of Poels and Intxausti never made much sense either.
well, two of many Sky signings that make no sense, unless your aim is to recruit obvious dopers.

Was the ZT policy ever written down somewhere or even published what it actually is? Does anyone know?

Or is it the ZFP?

No. I asked, often and received no reply.
In the same way I asked for the Garmin policy and received no reply.

It's policy theatre, please sign on the dotted line.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Re: Sky

I quote from another thread

I feel like I've explained my position many times already but oh well.
I don't dislike Sky because (I think) they dope. I dislike them because of their dominance, their massive hypocrisy, their lies, their bullying and because they are an insult my intelligence and take the fans for fools.

why so many people are bothered with what the other fans and public think and see?

Flo did not say other fans.

Flo is a fan.

Sky ask Flo to believe them.

Flo looks at Sky claims and general race etc evidence and says, "WTF are you fcking kidding me goddamnit gimme a puppy pic, stat!" Better make it animated.

The fans are the people who are not Sky narrative swallowers. They are the ones Flo dislikes Sky taking for fools. The ones with their eyes open.

Not other fans.

 

[pastronef]

Re: Sky

I quote from another thread

I feel like I've explained my position many times already but oh well.
I don't dislike Sky because (I think) they dope. I dislike them because of their dominance, their massive hypocrisy, their lies, their bullying and because they are an insult my intelligence and take the fans for fools.

why so many people are bothered with what the other fans and public think and see?

Flo did not say other fans.

Flo is a fan.

Sky ask Flo to believe them.

Flo looks at Sky claims and general race etc evidence and says, "WTF are you fcking kidding me goddamnit gimme a puppy pic, stat!" Better make it animated.

The fans are the people who are not Sky narrative swallowers. They are the ones Flo dislikes Sky taking for fools. The ones with their eyes open.

Not other fans.

Sky dont ASK
Sky cast their narrative and so on
if someone dont like it and knows it´s bullshyz, should not be bothered with that. ignore that, instead of getting angry or crying wolf or being bothered about the FANS intelligence.
I said OTHER, meaning fans that are not ME or FLO (since I quoted Flo´s post)

but that´s my subjective view on the matter.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Re: Sky

I quote from another thread

I feel like I've explained my position many times already but oh well.
I don't dislike Sky because (I think) they dope. I dislike them because of their dominance, their massive hypocrisy, their lies, their bullying and because they are an insult my intelligence and take the fans for fools.

why so many people are bothered with what the other fans and public think and see?

Flo did not say other fans.

Flo is a fan.

Sky ask Flo to believe them.

Flo looks at Sky claims and general race etc evidence and says, "WTF are you fcking kidding me goddamnit gimme a puppy pic, stat!" Better make it animated.

The fans are the people who are not Sky narrative swallowers. They are the ones Flo dislikes Sky taking for fools. The ones with their eyes open.

Not other fans.

Sky dont ASK
Sky cast their narrative and so on
if someone dont like it and knows it´s bullshyz, should not be bothered with that. ignore that, instead of getting angry or crying wolf or being bothered about the FANS intelligence.
I said OTHER, meaning fans that are not ME or FLO (since I quoted Flo´s post)

but that´s my subjective view on the matter.

Cool goalpost shifting.

 

[42x16ss]

Re: Sky

I quote from another thread

I feel like I've explained my position many times already but oh well.
I don't dislike Sky because (I think) they dope. I dislike them because of their dominance, their massive hypocrisy, their lies, their bullying and because they are an insult my intelligence and take the fans for fools.

why so many people are bothered with what the other fans and public think and see?

Flo did not say other fans.

Flo is a fan.

Sky ask Flo to believe them.

Flo looks at Sky claims and general race etc evidence and says, "WTF are you fcking kidding me goddamnit gimme a puppy pic, stat!" Better make it animated.

The fans are the people who are not Sky narrative swallowers. They are the ones Flo dislikes Sky taking for fools. The ones with their eyes open.

Not other fans.

Sky dont ASK
Sky cast their narrative and so on
if someone dont like it and knows it´s bullshyz, should not be bothered with that. ignore that, instead of getting angry or crying wolf or being bothered about the FANS intelligence.
I said OTHER, meaning fans that are not ME or FLO (since I quoted Flo´s post)

but that´s my subjective view on the matter.

That's right. They don't ask, they spout their line as if it is canon. They then complain when they get called out because not everyone subscribes to it.

 

[LaFlorecita]

What is it with these new Sky signings getting ill?

 

[Benotti69]

Re:

What is it with these new Sky signings getting ill?

Too many marginal gains too quickly......

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

What is it with these new Sky signings getting ill?

Too many marginal gains too quickly......

Maybe it's a language issue.

Landa: "Doctor, me siento mal".
Doctor: "you want to go to the mall?"