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what is it with ben turner? He was an average u23 and junior rider and now doing all this in his first 4 months as a pro.
According to Blythe his biggest fan boy he was an awesome CX rider. Really? Decent, but not close to Pidcock, MVDP, WVA etc. Even in a full WC field his best finish is 14th I think this season. That's in the states I think which didn't have WVA and MVDP.
 
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According to Blythe his biggest fan boy he was an awesome CX rider. Really? Decent, but not close to Pidcock, MVDP, WVA etc. Even in a full WC field his best finish is 14th I think this season. That's in the states I think which didn't have WVA and MVDP.

Turner was a decent U23 with some decent wins and podiums, with 2018/2019 being his most consistent season when with Corendon.

After that he was hampered by injuries and crashes in the next seasons after that where he failed to improve on that, although this season (and in some periods of the 2020/2021) he showed already good things among the elites.

But to be honest, I wouldn't thought there was a chance of him doing a classics season like this one with the things he showed either in the fields or in the road programs he did last seasons.
 
Was that Brailsford hugging Van Baarle at the finish as the commentators state it was the fastest PR ever?


If you think fastest speeds matter in Paris-Roubaix, please remember that 1964 is 3rd on the list, 1948 is the 6th fastest, 1960 8th and 1953 ninth. The only entry in the top 15 from the EPO heights of the 90s is 1996 in 13th.

It's almost as though speeds mean nothing
 
In fairness though, a lot of those editions especially in the 60s were fast because the traditional route was being increasingly paved over as the race used traditional roads which were now far more developed than they had been pre-war, and when the race deviated into various towns and villages, they wanted to come across as less backwater and more developed when the race was broadcast on TV so would tarmac their roads, and from 1967 onwards the race organisers sensed the danger that the character of the race would be lost and started hunting out hidden roads for remaining cobbled sections and increasing their number.

As a result the 50s and 60s should be disproportionately represented among the fastest editions of the race. Times on most classics aren't really comparable era to era because of changes to the route, and while those changes are less drastic at Roubaix than, say, de Ronde or Lombardia, which frequently change their route, they have nevertheless had a clearly visible impact on the speeds of the race.