Indeed. Not to mention that the rest of Sky was complete garbage. I mean, they had a stunning 3 riders left in the 150-man peloton with 100 km to go. Smells of organized doping for sureMellow Velo said:
maltiv said:Indeed. Not to mention that the rest of Sky was complete garbage. I mean, they had a stunning 3 riders left in the 150-man peloton with 100 km to go. Smells of organized doping for sure
Yes and what about Luke Rowe winning the Tour of Britain stage? Surprised nobody has picked up on that one yet...
maltiv said:Indeed. Not to mention that the rest of Sky was complete garbage. I mean, they had a stunning 3 riders left in the 150-man peloton with 100 km to go. Smells of organized doping for sure
You don't think Löfkvist is on the jucie?
I'm also sceptical of the claim of wide organized doping, the classics season sort of debunked that claim. But I guess those who believe in organized doping at Sky means it is limited to the circle around Wiggo and Froome. I have no clear opinion here, the performance in TdF was impressive and could indicate something, but it wasn't an otherworldly performance imo.
When I say I'm a bit suspicious of LPN, it falls under my "always be a bit sceptical" stance considering riders who improve a lot under a shorter period of time. This stance is not limited to Sky in any sense, and it doesn't mean I think the rider in question is dirty, just that this is a bit out of the ordinary and could indicate doping but must not necessarily be the case.
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https://es.twitter.com/hendriksmj/status/243343736841588736
Someone needs to start a MOTOMAN THREAD.....its all happenin !!
Someone needs to start a MOTOMAN THREAD.....its all happenin !!
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Since we're talking about 'special' gardeners
Bradley, Bradley, quite quite dirty,
how does your doping go?
With HGH, transfusions and motomen
with special flasks of EPO.
Bradley, Bradley, quite quite dirty,
how does your doping go?
With HGH, transfusions and motomen
with special flasks of EPO.
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Cycle Chic said:https://es.twitter.com/hendriksmj/status/243343736841588736
Someone needs to start a MOTOMAN THREAD.....its all happenin !!
These photos are photoSHOPPED....I fell for that one !
Twitter is full of them.
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I am not shocked or surprised to see pictures of 'motoman' with several current DS's and riders. Professional cycling at the top level is quite a small community where staff and personnel often maintain contact long after they have retired/moved on.
Yates rode for Motorola before later becoming a DS at Discovery. He would therefore have come into contact with motoman on numerous occasions. Whilst Yates tested positive as a rider and was no doubt aware of the 'team program' whilst at Discovery, I seriously doubt the same arrangement is in place at Sky so I think it is perhaps a little unfair to label the team guilty by association.
I maintain contact with a few riders who have doped in the past, but that doesn't necessarily mean I endorse or practice doping.
Both Yates and Sutton (Shane) have questionable pasts in terms of doping but that does not necessarily mean that they are passing on this practice at Sky.
Until rules are introduced that prevent teams from hiring/working with anyone previously associated with doping then I'm afraid cycling will suffer the same problems and accusationns.
Yates rode for Motorola before later becoming a DS at Discovery. He would therefore have come into contact with motoman on numerous occasions. Whilst Yates tested positive as a rider and was no doubt aware of the 'team program' whilst at Discovery, I seriously doubt the same arrangement is in place at Sky so I think it is perhaps a little unfair to label the team guilty by association.
I maintain contact with a few riders who have doped in the past, but that doesn't necessarily mean I endorse or practice doping.
Both Yates and Sutton (Shane) have questionable pasts in terms of doping but that does not necessarily mean that they are passing on this practice at Sky.
Until rules are introduced that prevent teams from hiring/working with anyone previously associated with doping then I'm afraid cycling will suffer the same problems and accusationns.
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Ferminal said:
Yeh I wonder that also - I did some digging a while ago but came up blank....his connection with Wiggins also needs looking at.....he just smells dodgey to me...like Brailsford....its like they are the British Bjarne Riis's.
He 'smells dodgy' to you? What are you, Colombo? Case closed then, if he smells dodgy. Lock them up and throw away the key, they smell like Bjarne Riis. Sandlewood with hints of honeyblossom and nuance of yak musk.
Brilliant debate yet again
Brilliant debate yet again
thehog said:
More insightful and challenging debate from hog. I'm persuaded finally. Hands up, you got me
I'm looking forward to more accurate predictions from you, like we had in the Vuelta. That was awesome
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JimmyFingers said:
You offer nothing Jimmy. I guess the reason you come into the clinic is that you suspect they are doping and coming here to see no 'evidence' that will convince you as you dismissed the idea that Wiggins working with a doping Dr and Sky getting 1st and 2nd is clean makes you feel good.
So you really know they dope but pray they have not been sussed more than what the clinic knows otherwise why keep coming in here?
You are better off in the road section. They all know about the doping but DGAF and get on with the fanboyisms ignoring the obvious.
Benotti69 said:
No saying someone 'smells dodgy' offers nothing and the fact you chose to call me on it rather than person saying it betrays your prejudice. As for trying to analyse my motives, again it betrays your prejudice. Those motives suit you so air them, why not? Demonstrative of how this forum is full of hot air, shout it long and hard enough and it becomes true, right?
Ferminal said:
He was never positive and has non...like many other " never tested positives".
I was in the same team in 88 (PMS / Dawes). Lets just say , cus, ya know, that thing called slander, from what I saw, Shane,s interpretation of clean and mine are poler opposites .
( Admin, law being law and all that just check my wording isn't libel's please )
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