Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[JimmyFingers]

If you want to bump a Sagan thread to defend him, I will be happy to engage with you.

No, not my style, 'performance isn't proof' is my new mantra, I just try to inject some perspective when the zoo gets a little over-excited

 

[mattghg]

One stage in terrible weather where the SkyTrain isnt 100%, is proof they arent doping? Lawl.

Who said that? All I hear people saying is that this shows that it was ridiculous to treat the Sky train's performance the other day as proof that they are doping.

 

[JimmyFingers]

Oh please it's not like noone had any doubts, saw ONE stage win and suddenly started accusing Sky. 200 suspicious stage wins vs one stage loss don't compare ( and yes my 200 number is out of my rabbit hat ).

I'm sure if Sky have won 200 stages, they've also lost a lot more

 

[the sceptic]

Who said that? All I hear people saying is that this shows that it was ridiculous to treat the Sky train's performance the other day as proof that they are doping.

Froome dawg said he was only there to train anyway. One below par training day doesnt cancel out all the ridiculous stuff him and sky have done over the last couple of years

 

[Ferminal]

No, not my style, 'performance isn't proof' is my new mantra, I just try to inject some perspective when the zoo gets a little over-excited

Nothing is proof, it's all just information that we need to consider.

The citing of any one/two/three performances by everyone just so they can win a regressive discussion for a few hours is pointless. Luckily it usually dies down by the time I wake up.

 

[Bumeington]

Froome to go thermonuclear and win the TT by 15s over Cancellara, 35s ahead of Nibali, forum to meltdown

 

[JimmyFingers]

Nothing is proof, it's all just information that we need to consider.

The citing of any one/two/three performances by everyone just so they can win a regressive discussion for a few hours is pointless. Luckily it usually dies down by the time I wake up.

As ever a voice of reason, and a force for good

 

[mattghg]

Nothing is proof, it's all just information that we need to consider.

The citing of any one/two/three performances by everyone just so they can win a regressive discussion for a few hours is pointless.

Agree 100% (although I still sometimes do pointless things).

 

[del1962]

If you want to bump a Sagan thread to defend him, I will be happy to engage with you.

I don't think he means you, but do any of those who accuse Froome also accuse Nibali and Sagan.

I won't bumb their threads as I don't accuse them, but it is telling

 

[Cyivel]

I don't think he means you, but do any of those who accuse Froome also accuse Nibali and Sagan.

I won't bumb their threads as I don't accuse them, but it is telling

Given it was Purito, Nibali and Sagan who were the three today, the fact is nobody holds Katusha or Astana up as examples of clean cycling and really defends them and if Sagan dominates the classics this year well I'm sure people will start on him more.

As has been said before people defend Sky a lot more than any other team, they also get more criticism granted.

 

[the sceptic]

I don't think he means you, but do any of those who accuse Froome also accuse Nibali and Sagan.

I won't bumb their threads as I don't accuse them, but it is telling

Youre saying Froome is the same as Nibali and Sagan now? thats pretty insulting to the latter two. They werent nobodies that had a Riis esque transformation.

 

[del1962]

Youre saying Froome is the same as Nibali and Sagan now? thats pretty insulting to the latter two. They werent nobodies that had a Riis esque transformation.

Thany you for prooving my point

 

[zalacain]

Hope all the sky haters are watching T-A. Froome clinging on to last wheel after getting dropped by Sagan et al on the final climb.

Reminded me much of Landis' defaillance shortly before he blasted everybody in the TdF

 

[mastersracer]

Reminded me much of Landis' defaillance shortly before he blasted everybody in the TdF

except today the entire team cracked and lost control of the race. The same team that was supposedly taking some new secret undetectable EPO drug. Looked pretty human today.

 

[The Hitch]

One stage in terrible weather where the SkyTrain isnt 100%, is proof they arent doping? Lawl.

****ing hog made 2 deliberate troll posts that froome would win the race by 5 minutes or whatever. Every sky fan post since has used that to try and prove that froome has not really made any special improvements.

 

[The Hitch]

Performance isn't proof, either way. But if a winning stage is certainly held up as evidence of doping, it follows that a stage where they get smashed up is going to be used in a similar way. Lawl

its not that sky won a stage.

Its that Froome won the queen mtf stage by flying away from Contador like he did in Oman.

Froome. He could win the next 10 tdfs and in 2023 if he is winning mountain stages we will still not accept that that is his place in the peloton.

 

[The Hitch]

I'm sure if Sky have won 200 stages, they've also lost a lot more

they are 1 team out of 23 in any race. Any team that is winning even 1/10 of the stages they enter that would be suspicious. More so if like Sky they have a strict - only team leaders allowed to get stages, policy.

 

[The Hitch]

I don't think he means you, but do any of those who accuse Froome also accuse Nibali and Sagan.

Yes. Especially Nibali.

For years.

But its better to troll and just keep making up that everyone is just anti British and jealous of sky.

 

[BYOP88]

except today the entire team cracked and lost control of the race. The same team that was supposedly taking some new secret undetectable EPO drug. Looked pretty human today.

Hmm even the guys on huge programmes in the past had an off day or 2. Check out the 2000 or 2003 TdF.

 

[airstream]

Yes. Especially Nibali.

For years.

But its better to troll and just keep making up that everyone is just anti British and jealous of sky.

Hitch, r u british, right? Do you try to think how you would of handled the things if you started following the sport say in 2012?

 

[the sceptic]

except today the entire team cracked and lost control of the race. The same team that was supposedly taking some new secret undetectable EPO drug. Looked pretty human today.

Dont worry, im sure Froome will be back on the magical 5.9 w/kg soon. After all, he isnt really there to race, he is only training.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

One stage in terrible weather where the SkyTrain isnt 100%, is proof they arent doping? Lawl.

I tell you what is proof that sky aren't doping. if they were and are still doping then why do you think they fired de jong and julich? do you think they would honestly sign that doping-use document if the team was still doping?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

its not that sky won a stage.

Its that Froome won the queen mtf stage by flying away from Contador like he did in Oman.

Froome. He could win the next 10 tdfs and in 2023 if he is winning mountain stages we will still not accept that that is his place in the peloton.

flyign away as in 8 seconds? in that logic, so did nibali and kwiatkowskiu fly away from contador then

 

[The Hitch]

Hitch, r u british, right? Do you try to think how you would of handled the things if you started following the sport say in 2012?

Im half British. I dont care where people come from i only care what type of person they are. That said I wanted Brits to do well to increase the profile of the sport here, but Bailsfords and wiggins lies dishonesty is unacceptable. Wouldnt cheer for them if they were kin.

 

[The Hitch]

Ah, mr Rujano 10 watts per kilo for 8 minutes and henao can win Pairs Roubaix.

Welcome.

Your contributions are always entertaining.

ps, how did it feel to watch that "pathetic" "overrated" joke of a rider Nibali tear the race apart today?