Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[infeXio]

Marginal gains, wai yu no teach riders to descend

 

[JimmyFingers]

Brilliant, thanks for the stage spoiler. What does crashing on a descent have to do with doping? Take your unsportsmanlike gloating over a crash to the road racing forum, sure you will be good company.

 

[thehog]

Brilliant, thanks for the stage spoiler. What does crashing on a descent have to do with doping? Take your unsportsmanlike gloating over a crash to the road racing forum, sure you will be good company.

Calm down. No one is gloating. Stop being so sensitive.

Doping has a lot to do with crashing. Besides he was off the back before the crash. He wasn't even in the race.

You get that when you follow a car all day long in Tenerife.

 

[the sceptic]

skybots are good at doing 6.0w/kg in a straight line. Not much else.

 

[JimmyFingers]

It has nothing to do with doping and shameful you take the opportunity the day after the anniversary of the death of a rider to bring it up in the clinic where it has no place.

Wiggins lost time on a descent in the rain. Other riders have lost more. Grow the hell up.

 

[Parrulo]

It has nothing to do with doping and shameful you take the opportunity the day after the anniversary of the death of a rider to bring it up in the clinic where it has no place.

Wiggins lost time on a descent in the rain. Other riders have lost more. Grow the hell up.

Sorry but when is it correct to bring a crash talk to the clinic? Tomorrow? But tomorrow is 2 days after the anniversary of a riders death?!!!! Maybe the day after tomorrow? . . . .

 

[DirtyWorks]

Yet if everyone is doping including Sky, and Sky are winning, then Sky's training is working, so it's marginal gains plus doping.

Or its they've found some next-gen **** no-one else has got yet. Which is pure speculation and neither provable or deniable.

Or, an athlete tests positive and a case is not opened. It's already happened with Armstrong. They don't have to be using something revolutionary. Just get the UCI to ignore the suspicious and positive results and you too can be a Grand Tour winner.

Unfortunately, that is the basis of all grand tour wins now. Mistrust. And the UCI has no interest in creating a race where the results can be trusted as clean-ish.

 

[roundabout]

It has nothing to do with doping and shameful you take the opportunity the day after the anniversary of the death of a rider to bring it up in the clinic where it has no place.

Wiggins lost time on a descent in the rain. Other riders have lost more. Grow the hell up.

Wiggins got dropped by 30 people on the last climb.

Good enough reason to give this thread a bump.

 

[thehog]

It has nothing to do with doping and shameful you take the opportunity the day after the anniversary of the death of a rider to bring it up in the clinic where it has no place.

Wiggins lost time on a descent in the rain. Other riders have lost more. Grow the hell up.

Fancy using a riders death to further your Bot work. Shameful.

You're just being opportunistic.

You know what happened today. Stop pretending its about something else.

 

[Bala Verde]

Fancy using a riders death to further your Bot work. Shameful.

You're just being opportunistic.

You know what happened today. Stop pretending its about something else.

They gave the uk postal intern updated talking points.

 

[Benotti69]

Fancy using a riders death to further your Bot work. Shameful.

You're just being opportunistic.

You know what happened today. Stop pretending its about something else.

It is par for the course to use the death of someone to deflect questions about Sky. See Brailsford's lame excuse for hiring Leinders

 

[Catwhoorg]

Bit of slow cadence today.

This is the peril or hiding away in Tenerife.

Sky's tactics go to poo the minute something unexpected happens.

Froome was the same at TA.

Is there a drug that can assist with being scared on descents?

Wiggo was in Mallorca wasn't he.

(most of) The rest of the Giro team were at Tenerife.

Thats a marginal gain for teamwork right there

 

[mattghg]

Is there a drug that can assist with being scared on descents?

*Ahem*

Impressive racing, but Wiggins is clearly on dope because he can't descend and doesn't attack and yet here we see him attacking on a descent.

Must be some sort of genetic doping going on in Teide which made Brad grow a pair while he was away.

And you can never improve as a descender without juice.

Juice meaning anti-anxiety drugs? Absolutely. And yes, riders have taken anti-anxiety medication expressly for this purpose.

Anecdotally, it's suggested that the doping has a mental cost, just another reason to take the Xanax.

To be fair, coming up with real or imagined doping methods must drive some crazy because it looks like a perpetual conspiracy party. Unfortunately, the anti-anxiety thing is real.

....

 

[mattghg]

All the best climbing performances now are the ones that Froome has yet to do.

So true

 

[thehog]

It is par for the course to use the death of someone to deflect questions about Sky. See Brailsford's lame excuse for hiring Leinders

Fancy talking about drugs when you know Tommy Simpson died 55 years ago of drug induced exhaustion. Shameful.

 

[mattghg]

And sky and all their fans argue themselves that you can work out how dirty someone is based on their career when they say that attacking is dirty and following wheels is clean.

Strawman much?

 

[thehog]

*Ahem*



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Beta blockers.

 

[burning]

They need to work their descents on a video game or something before riding a bike

 

[thehog]

They need to work their descents on a video game or something before riding a bike

RAI just showed Wiggins knocking Uran off his bike. Comedy.

 

[Benotti69]

@DavidWalshST 54m

Wiggins has just walked past with an ice pack on his right knee but looking calm. The rain just bucketed down thro' last hour.

you know what's coming.....

‏@broomwagonblog 1h

If Wiggo quits the #giro then in about 2 years he will deny ever having raced it.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Good to see they have Steve Peters on speed dial. Worked wonders for Luiz Suarez.

What a disgrace this was. Tirreno was not an incident it seems.

 

[mattghg]

Beta blockers.

Possible answer to the question: 'What do cyclists and snooker players have in common?'

 

[thehog]

Possible answer to the question: 'What do cyclists and snooker players have in common?'

Both wear vests/gilets?

 

[webbie146]

There might be a problem for sky. Do they have the ability to call Dr.Ferrari during the race like Johan did in 2000 when Pantani attacked? That was really useful! Lance was like 'hey Johan call Ferrari' 'Johan: Okay Lance no problem!'


They should start calling Ferrari during races, he can actually tell em what to do lol

 

[Parrulo]

Wiggins got dropped by 30 people on the last climb.

Good enough reason to give this thread a bump.

Indeed,this wiggins almost looks like his 2010 self