Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[martinvickers]

Not at all.

Now get the Sky boys to show a good faith gesture and release their blood values.

Just like Honer has.

There's the lad.

What's to be scared of?

Honer?

Irony is dead.

Anyway, why on earth would I have power to have such values released? Seems a misdirected request.

 

[martinvickers]

There is no need for you to comment.

Is that another personal attack, Benotti?

Ball, not man.

 

[thehog]

Honer?

Irony is dead.

Anyway, why on earth would I have power to have such values released? Seems a misdirected request.

No misdirection at all.

You suggest due to the lack of haemtotolisisifts in the Clinic that there shouldn't be transparency from Sky.

Lets discuss that, shall we?

Why do you think this?

Why can't the values, the passport, SRMs be released?

Nothing to hide, yes?

 

[Netserk]

1) Post not poster.

2) We have mods to do the mods' job. Report and ignore any offending.

 

[Benotti69]

Anyone who thinks Sky are not releasing values due to all the boneidle w@nkr$ who will comment has to be their weakest argument to date trying to deflect their obvious doping.

Transparency was never Sky's intention. They talk the talk but sure as heck dont walk the walk.

Sky are scared of the clinic.

 

[martinvickers]

Anyone who thinks Sky are not releasing values due to all the boneidle w@nkr$ who will comment has to be their weakest argument to date trying to deflect their obvious doping.

Transparency was never Sky's intention. They talk the talk but sure as heck dont walk the walk.

Sky are scared of the clinic.

What's the point in this? It's pure mindless conjecture, there's nothing useful in it, no evidence, no argument, just a profession of faith. How can you even debate with a religious conviction?

 

[thehog]

Anyone who thinks Sky are not releasing values due to all the boneidle w@nkr$ who will comment has to be their weakest argument to date trying to deflect their obvious doping.

Transparency was never Sky's intention. They talk the talk but sure as heck dont walk the walk.

Sky are scared of the clinic.

It's a little worse than that.

They don't release their values and then talk about ZTP etc.

I mean seriously.

If Chris-redacted-Horner can do it, surely Sky can?

In the new-clean-era of cycling.

 

[JRanton]

Well I said let's wait and see how Porte did in Beijing before we could judge his form.

He got dropped badly today and lost 12 minute+ on a stage won by that well known climber Nacer Bouhanni.

So I'd agree with others that it's very odd indeed how his level can drop quite this much. Ridiculous even.

 

[thehog]

Well I said let's wait and see how Porte did in Beijing before we could judge his form.

He got dropped badly today and lost 12 minute+ on a stage won by that well known climber Nacer Bouhanni.

So I'd agree with others that it's very odd indeed how his level can drop quite this much. Ridiculous even.

Yes it's odd. I don't know why they even bother racing when off the gear this late in the season.

Porte for me at Ax3 was worse than Froome. Only because he hit the wind longer for such a longer period and still attacked the field to finish 2nd.

But, today, 12 minutes! Yikes!

 

[JRanton]

Yes it's odd. I don't know why they even bother racing when off the gear this late in the season.

Porte for me at Ax3 was worse than Froome. Only because he hit the wind longer for such a longer period and still attacked the field to finish 2nd.

But, today, 12 minutes! Yikes!

I tell a lie. It was in fact 17 minutes!

 

[martinvickers]

I tell a lie. It was in fact 17 minutes!

Jeez. Didn't see the race, but that seems something rather worse than a simple drop off in form....

 

[LaFlorecita]

Didn't see the race, but that seems something rather worse than a simple drop off in form....

Doper's fatigue!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[martinvickers]

Doper's fatigue!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Calm down, F, you'll wear out the '1' button...

 

[JRanton]

Jeez. Didn't see the race, but that seems something rather worse than a simple drop off in form....

"Unfortunately Richie [Porte] lost a bit of time. It's been a long season for him. Joe and David look good and it will be interesting to see how they get on tomorrow.''

A bit of time! 17 minutes! He finished in the bus with a bunch of terrible climbers!

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

And here we ago again with the unverified and unverifiable assumptions, and we are supposed to take them as gospel for the purposes of exact mathematical calculations?

Jesus wept.

Why so angry martin? Why dont you react to the openess by team Movistar? Please translate that to the openess team Sky has offered. Sharing SRM's of David Lopez and that Italian client of Alex Carrera, whats his name, Puccio? See the difference.

The argument 'Sky dont release the SRM's because other teams will then see THE SECRET' doesnt hold. Other teams know exactly the power outputs Sky can handle by looking at their own SRM's. There are no secrets in cycling, just myths.

Looking at Porties Tour de Beijing he must be having a jetlag. Or he is just training for the Chrono des Nations. Oh no, Sky train to race, not vice versa.

 

[Ferminal]

http://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=23461

 

[the sceptic]

Jeez. Didn't see the race, but that seems something rather worse than a simple drop off in form....

Have some faith, Vicar martin. There was a strong headwind.

 

[veganrob]

Have some faith, Vicar martin. There was a strong headwind.

Yeah, but only for Richie

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Jeez. Didn't see the race, but that seems something rather worse than a simple drop off in form....

Must have been a mechanical problem. Just can't get good staff these days.

 

[Benotti69]

Sky talk about marginal gains , their attention to details rolleyes....we have heard it all before...

Cycling Weekly Q:In terms of the fact that the sport has been talking about the dirty generation of the 1990s and 2000s. It makes you look bad.

Lance Armstrong A:But why was [this year’s Tour] perceived as being cleaner? Speeds were just as high. But that happens – people evolve, training evolves, roads evolve, equipment evolves.

Read more at http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...-exclusive-interview.html#B7qlE4cL87RGfuTr.99

Sky are an evolution of USPS......

 

[Cycle Chic]

Paris - Tours

UK Cycling Expert ‏@ukcyclingexpert20h

Hearing rumours the Sky team forgot to enter the Paris Tour sportive again this year!! Missed opportunity for them, I'd say.

UK Cycling Expert ‏@ukcyclingexpert20h

I'm pretty sure most of these big events can be entered online these days, so no excuses for Sir Dave over Sky's no show today!!

 

[The Hitch]

Sky talk about marginal gains , their attention to details rolleyes....we have heard it all before...




Read more at http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...-exclusive-interview.html#B7qlE4cL87RGfuTr.99

Sky are an evolution of USPS......

Great spot.

anyone who argues that sky are winning because science has evolved, should be forced to explain what the difference is between their claims and the claims of wiggos hero.

Also I like this bit

You can see in the latter years I would not have risked my family’s reputation, my savings, my foundation, all those people who believe in that cause. I wouldn’t have risked that.

When wiggins made this exact same point, it was received as proof that he is clean.

 

[Cycle Chic]

Armstrong Interview

this bit made me laugh...

What’s your VO2 Max?
Today? I’ve no idea.

What was it?
I don’t know.

You don’t know?
I did some tests back when I was 16.

You don’t know your VO2 Max?
I haven’t done a test in a long time.

What was it?
The best I can remember, the low 80s.

Read more at http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...-exclusive-interview.html#byuDEyxGbmtozpGd.99

 

[JRanton]

Porte DNF today.

Can't even finish a race now!

 

[Cycle Chic]

Porte DNF today.

Can't even finish a race now!

Not one mention of Porte's performance on the Team Sky website.