Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[The Hitch]

Bailsford on radio 5 live. Keeps saying how proud he is of sky 0 tolerance policy.

Says he is disappointed in Michael barry - didn't know. Also hasn't ever hired anyone with a history of doping. No mention of lienders and not like fawning interviewers cared to.ask.

Radio 5 declare how great it is that he has done it all.in the correct way. Top quality journalism

Does the logical question - if it took 7 years to.find all these dopers can you categorically declare current riders clean- not enter their heads?

 

[JimmyFingers]

Should have known when the **** the fan the clinic would do its best splash to it on Sky

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Should have known when the **** the fan the clinic would do its best splash to it on Sky

Who do you think the Rabo doctor was?

 

[Arnout]

Bailsford on radio 5 live. Keeps saying how proud he is of sky 0 tolerance policy.

Says he is disappointed in Michael barry - didn't know. Also hasn't ever hired anyone with a history of doping. No mention of lienders and not like fawning interviewers cared to.ask.

Radio 5 declare how great it is that he has done it all.in the correct way. Top quality journalism

Does the logical question - if it took 7 years to.find all these dopers can you categorically declare current riders clean- not enter their heads?

He did? That's brave.

 

[Dead Star]

Should have known when the **** the fan the clinic would do its best splash to it on Sky

Well, we've just had this:

the Inner Ring ‏@inrng

Luis Leon Sanchez also outed as a client of Michele Ferrari by Volodymyr Bileka, as well as Pozatto, Kreuziger, Garzelli, Possoni, Popovych

 

[sniper]

Well, we've just had this:

sweet.
has this hit the news already?

 

[Frosty]

Well, we've just had this:

He was one of the guys raided about 18 months ago in apparent relation to Ferrari.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...led-into-police-investigation-of-ferrari.html

 

[Darryl Webster]

In case its been overlooked its worth pointing out that the Michael Barry,s doping confession included his time with the Discovery Team when Sean Yates was a DS. Sean is now a DS with Sky.
In my experience a DS ALWAYS knows of his riders doping.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Should have known when the **** the fan the clinic would do its best splash to it on Sky

Should have known you would be here getting splattered for Team Sky

So Dave didn't know about Michael Barry? Said he was "shocked".
Funny that Dave wouldn't let Kimmage interview Barry in 2010.

 

[Tinman]

In case its been overlooked its worth pointing out that the Michael Barry,s doping confession included his time with the Discovery Team when Sean Yates was a DS. Sean is now a DS with Sky.
In my experience a DS ALWAYS knows of his riders doping.

BINGO. Has been flying under the radar for many years. Check where he's been, what he's done, who he's been close to... Lots of questions, very few feel good answers...

 

[sittingbison]

Lets not forget that Leinders employment at TeamSKY was terminated the day before the USADA reasoned decision was released. This will NEVER see the light of day in the mainstream press and will now fade away as if he never existed.

Nothing to see here. Move on.

 

[TubularBills]

Lets not forget that Leinders employment at TeamSKY was terminated the day before the USADA reasoned decision was released. This will NEVER see the light of day in the mainstream press and will now fade away as if he never existed.

Nothing to see here. Move on.

Wow. Cool. Link?

 

[keeponrollin]

Re Barry - didnt he deny using PED's when accused by Landis ???
What ever happened to the Sky team enquiry into his drug use...
Isnt it strange that 2006 seems to be the year they all stopped ???

It's a guess; but I imagine the reason they all miraculously found Jesus in 2006 is linked to some kind of statute of limitations around prosecutions. So the Feds only asked them about S*** prior to this date, so they could get 'honest' answers & not force them into taking the 5th & invoking their right not to self-incriminate.

Now this also puts LA in a position to F*** each & everyone of them if he has proof of them doping after 2006 !

Because any immunity they got from the Feds would be reliant on them telling the truth, & not having doped after 2006

 

[Tinman]

Lets not forget that Leinders employment at TeamSKY was terminated the day before the USADA reasoned decision was released. This will NEVER see the light of day in the mainstream press and will now fade away as if he never existed.

Nothing to see here. Move on.

Very valid point. Brailsford no dummy. Spins like Team Lance. I guess could also have some help from BSkyB/Fox spin "doctors"...

 

[Dear Wiggo]

http://d3epuodzu3wuis.cloudfront.net/Leipheimer,+Levi,+Affidavit.pdf

This year, Rogers is riding 5-7% better than he ever has - including 2005.

Marginal gain this one, fellas.

 

[Tinman]

Mick Lazarus Rogers. Has had some interesting peaks and troughs in his cycling career.

 

[oldcrank]

"There is nothing to suggest that Bradley Wiggins
achieved yesterday's historic victory through
anything other than talent and hard work."
PAUL KIMMAGE (MailOnline 22July2012)

 

[Dear Wiggo]

"There is nothing to suggest that Bradley Wiggins
achieved yesterday's historic victory through
anything other than talent and hard work."
PAUL KIMMAGE (MailOnline 22July2012)

acoggan would be proud of your trim, oldcrank.

Here's the thought in its unedited entirety, with a link so you can read the full article...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ot...attle-cyclings-drug-demons--Paul-Kimmage.html

There is nothing to suggest that Bradley Wiggins achieved yesterday’s historic victory through anything other than talent and hard work. But at this time of glory, why does Team Sky leave itself open to insinuation by employing Leinders?

Here’s the question again: Was this Tour de France clean? Here’s the tragedy: I don’t know if the public’s answers would have changed since 2006.

 

[Racelap]

Leinders followed Ferrari's blueprints.

Porte, Wiggo, and Froome were the "A-Team"

Froome is to Wiggo what Hamilton was to Lance

It's all there.

 

[keeponrollin]

acoggan would be proud of your trim, oldcrank.

Here's the thought in its unedited entirety, with a link so you can read the full article...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ot...attle-cyclings-drug-demons--Paul-Kimmage.html

Indeed. The same statement could have been written on the day after any of LA's steals of the TDeF's yellow jersey, & would have been technically correct.

But now we know so much more, & some day, maybe, we'll have an opportunity to review Wigs yellow jersey.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

But now we know so much more, & some day, maybe, we'll have an opportunity to review Wigs yellow jersey.

How about tomorrow?

 

[Tinman]

Tomorrow is "Post USADA file release day". Then we will have the wake in honor of Lance, eventually the partying will stop and we will wonder what to do next.

And then guess what, we will turn to Sky, because it's unlikely to be going away and we need someone to pick on, right? Why not the 2012 winners. Vinakurov & Ekimov teams are just way less interesting, everyone knows what they will stand for.

Sky is cool because BSkyB and Murdoch (read News of the World) just cannot afford any more deceipt stories to break. So clean they will be, perceived clean and reality clean. Hence the purging of Leinders on the eve of the file release.

 

[Franklin]

Also hasn't ever hired anyone with a history of doping.

Truth!

Sean Yates nor Leinders were ever involved. Anyone mentioning a positive and a court ruling is just making up fantasies.

 

[MartinGT]

Truth!

Sean Yates nor Leinders were ever involved. Anyone mentioning a positive and a court ruling is just making up fantasies.

Please tell me you're not serious

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Please tell me you're not serious

= sarcasm. He's not serious.