Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[thehog]

Loads.

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I see.

Which ones?

 

[JRanton]

I see.

Which ones?

Go back and take a look at Cound and Froome's twitter feeds if you can be bothered.

 

[JRanton]

I think Froome is a better professional than that. I don't think he lacks the desire to train or compete. Let me rephrase your question. After 8 months of training and winning everything do you think he has any desire to risk getting caught taking illegal substances? Remember, everything after TdF is like a criterium for him.

He didn't win everything. Lost Tirreno on a very hilly, classic-like stage, and was nowhere in L-B-L when he had great form.

 

[BroDeal]

You don't do all of the post-Tour crits, like Froome and Porte did, if you're serious about getting results in the last part of the season. I think people are barking up the wrong tree if they're taking much from this drop in form.

Oh, brother. Now fixed exhibition "races" are to be used as a gauge of form?

Typical Sky cluelessness.

 

[Benotti69]

You don't do all of the post-Tour crits, like Froome and Porte did, if you're serious about getting results in the last part of the season. I think people are barking up the wrong tree if they're taking much from this drop in form.

Sean Kelly would disagree, he rode as many post tour crits and won 3 Lombardia.

 

[JRanton]

Oh, brother. Now fixed exhibition "races" are to be used as a gauge of form?

Typical Sky cluelessness.

What on earth are you talking about?

My point is that you don't travel around Europe racing those Crits, make several sponsorship appearances, and then head to a race at altitude in America only a few days before the start, if you're serious about preparing for the last part of the season.

Got that?

 

[JRanton]

Sean Kelly would disagree, he rode as many post tour crits and won 3 Lombardia.

One of the greatest classics riders of all time. And then there's Chris Froome. Great comparison.

 

[Parrulo]

Sean Kelly would disagree, he rode as many post tour crits and won 3 Lombardia.

A certain Rui Costa also rode plenty Tour crits and look at what he is wearing right now. . .

 

[BroDeal]

What on earth are you talking about?

My point is that you don't travel around Europe racing those Crits, make several sponsorship appearances, and then head to a race at altitude in America only a few days before the start, if you're serious about preparing for the last part of the season.

Got that?

Yeah. It is perfectly normal for someone racing at a VO2Max of over ninety to have it drop to seventy in a month while still getting regular exercise.

 

[JRanton]

Yeah. It is perfectly normal for someone racing at a VO2Max of over ninety to have it drop to seventy in a month while still getting regular exercise.

His Colorado performance isn't surprising at all if you consider the massive change in altitude. He was back in reasonable shape for the Canada races but he's not a one day rider so he's never going to get a result.

 

[JRanton]

The trouble with you guys is that you want it all ways. If a rider has one incredible peak for one event - suspicious (I'd agree). A rider maintains form from Feb-July - suspicious. A rider isn't able to maintain that form through to September - suspicious.

Basically everything is suspicious.

 

[JRanton]

A certain Rui Costa also rode plenty Tour crits and look at what he is wearing right now. . .

Fine, but why are we comparing an excellent one day rider to Chris Froome?

 

[BroDeal]

His Colorado performance isn't surprising at all if you consider the massive change in altitude. He was back in reasonable shape for the Canada races but he's not a one day rider so he's never going to get a result.

keep making those excuses. The Armstrong fanboy record is in reach.

 

[JRanton]

keep making those excuses. The Armstrong fanboy record is in reach.

It's not an excuse, it's a reason.

 

[thehog]

Go back and take a look at Cound and Froome's twitter feeds if you can be bothered.

Why would I do that.

Which ones did they ride and how many. Just wondering as you brought it up.

 

[BroDeal]

The trouble with you guys is that you want it all ways. If a rider has one incredible peak for one event - suspicious (I'd agree). A rider maintains form from Feb-July - suspicious. A rider isn't able to maintain that form through to September - suspicious.

Basically everything is suspicious.

With Froome everything IS suspicious. His doping is so obvious a simian brain can figure it out. The guy is a clown.

 

[JRanton]

With Froome everything IS suspicious. His doping is so obvious a simian brain can figure it out. The guy is a clown.

I agree that Froome's extremely suspicious. He's one of the most remarkable transformations in cycling history but some of the stuff posted in here doesn't add anything to the debate.

 

[JRanton]

Why would I do that.

Which ones did they ride and how many. Just wondering as you brought it up.

Jesus, Hog, I don't have a full record of the Crits he raced. Happy?

 

[thehog]

Jesus, Hog, I don't have a full record of the Crits he raced. Happy?

Thanks.

So what was the point you were making?

 

[JRanton]

Thanks.

So what was the point you were making?

That he raced a lot of Crits post-Tour. Which he did.

 

[thehog]

That he raced a lot of Crits post-Tour. Which he did.

A lot that can't be named.

What's a lot? 3? 10? 4?

 

[JRanton]

A lot that can't be named.

What's a lot? 3? 10? 4?

8 I think judging from his twitter feed. 26th July to 2nd August, followed by several sponsorship appearances in the next two weeks.

 

[thehog]

8 I think judging from his twitter feed. 26th July to 2nd August, followed by several sponsorship appearances in the next two weeks.

Thanks.

30km each? With a predetermined winner.

8 x 30 = 240km in 7 days.

Sounds like a rest week for a guy who rode 220km in one day then beat Armstrong's time up Ventoux.

I think he was fine.

 

[JRanton]

Thanks.

30km each? With a predetermined winner.

8 x 30 = 240km in 7 days.

Sounds like a rest week for a guy who rode 220km in one day then beat Armstrong's time up Ventoux.

I think he was fine.

Yeah, because there's no travelling involved between visiting different countries and you're not staying in a different hotel/bed every night. Perfect recovery week followed by travelling to several sponsors in different countries in the next two weeks. Perfect recovery indeed!

EDIT - Pretty sure these Crits are more like 100km btw.

 

[thehog]

Yeah, because there's no travelling involved between visiting different countries and you're not staying in a different hotel/bed every night. Perfect recovery week followed by travelling to several sponsors in different countries in the next two weeks. Perfect recovery indeed!

EDIT - Pretty sure these Crits are more like 100km btw.

Thanks.

Sounds like the Tour de France & bike racing in general. Transfers, travelling, riding, racing, transfers, travelling.

Do cyclists have a bed they call their own?

I'm sure he was just fine.