Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[HappyCycling]

Porte definitely won't produce anything close to his level from last year, he was hanging on today. Did well to limit the losses he had already made.

 

[Benotti69]

Porte has to be favourite as I cannot see ASO wanting a client of Ferrari's to win the TdF and the win being struck off in a few years!

 

[JimmyFingers]

They will claim testosterone deficiency based on his wife having all the balls in the family.

Well I laughed

 

[Benotti69]

Sky still doing USPS....

latest BS rom Brailsford........

"We've got a new governance officer. We scrutinize in real detail all the information that we get and our monitoring I'd say is second to none. That's the learning from it."

So why are they still hiring Servais Knavens...

This guy won Paris Roubaix on Domo Farm Frites when that team took the podium, yes 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Clean of course otherwise he wouldn't be working on Sky!

no governance on Knavens past......

 

[the sceptic]

Sky still doing USPS....

latest BS rom Brailsford........



So why are they still hiring Servais Knavens...

This guy won Paris Roubaix on Domo Farm Frites when that team took the podium, yes 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Clean of course otherwise he wouldn't be working on Sky!

no governance on Knavens past......

Well Im glad they finally gave Walsh a real job descripition.

 

[RownhamHill]

Well Im glad they finally gave Walsh a real job descripition.

That's very good.

 

[Benotti69]

Well Im glad they finally gave Walsh a real job descripition.

I think if Walsh did some real scrutiny on Sky he may have another load of books to flog and a movie on top........

 

[maxmartin]

i still think Porte is going to win this. much better at the TT than nibali and if he can pull off another 2013 Ax3d performance it's entirely possible that he could take back a minute or so before the TT. it's long from over IMO.

wait for nIbAnI smashes everyone in the final ITT, how many seconds he lost to Wiggins in the first ITT?

 

[DirtyWorks]

And Porte totally deserves the win as well. Niballi really has just sat on for the yellow.

Hog, I mean you no disrespect, but you have jumped the shark with Porte.

Complaints of riders moving into the GC lead as "just sat on" are certainly older than I am. Nibali's ridden strategically and aggressively as needed.

 

[zlev11]

wait for nIbAnI smashes everyone in the final ITT, how many seconds he lost to Wiggins in the first ITT?

in 2012? he lost 2:07 in the 1st TT and 3:38 in the 2nd (1:13 behind Porte)

 

[thehog]

Hog, I mean you no disrespect, but you have jumped the shark with Porte.

Complaints of riders moving into the GC lead as "just sat on" are certainly older than I am. Nibali's ridden strategically and aggressively as needed.

C'arn man! You know I'm joking!

Nibali is all panache!

 

[maxmartin]

in 2012? he lost 2:07 in the 1st TT and 3:38 in the 2nd (1:13 behind Porte)

come on, i was talking about Giro 2013 ITT, 2013Giro nibali is significant better than 2012 Tour Nibali. And 2014 tour Nibali could be even better than 2013 Giro Nibali. Plus the Itt route this year is more like 2013 hilly route than 2012 pan flat route.

 

[42x16ss]

wait for nIbAnI smashes everyone in the final ITT, how many seconds he lost to Wiggins in the first ITT?

Sure, it was only 11 seconds, but Wigans punctured and the Giro TT was wet, hillier and more technical than the two TT's at the 2012 TdF. In a plain, flat, dry TT the gap would have been much bigger.

 

[zlev11]

come on, i was talking about Giro 2013 ITT, 2013Giro nibali is significant better than 2012 Tour Nibali. And 2014 tour Nibali could be even better than 2013 Giro Nibali. Plus the Itt route this year is more like 2013 hilly route than 2012 pan flat route.

yeah and 2013 Wiggins wasn't anywhere close to 2012 Wiggins either

 

[Dalakhani]

This JTL thing really raises the question, what exactly is a "zero tolerance policy"?

Sky don't seem to be doing much to scrutinise their potential recruits - such as asking, "How come this guy is suddenly so good in his mid-20s".

There doesn't appear to be any history of them sacking anyone based on their in-house testing. (Unless they're doing this on the quiet.)

They don't even seem to avoid riders with dubious reputations. (Cherry picking riders from the top of the 2010 TdF leaked list.)

So what is it? Except for sacking people after they get banned?

 

[The Hitch]

This JTL thing really raises the question, what exactly is a "zero tolerance policy"?

Sky don't seem to be doing much to scrutinise their potential recruits - such as asking, "How come this guy is suddenly so good in his mid-20s".

We now know that at best they had no idea what made Froome good, but decided to lie on his behalf and claim it was because of their training (though they knew it was a lie) and follow the Bilharzia lie too.

 

[buckle]

Let's admit it, for SKY haters everywhere it has been a bad day in the mountains.

"Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths." The law will go out from Zion, the word of the LORD from Jerusalem".

 

[Libertine Seguros]

We now know that at best they had no idea what made Froome good, but decided to lie on his behalf and claim it was because of their training (though they knew it was a lie) and follow the Bilharzia lie too.

Also, claim you were lied to and make people sign a piece of paper promising that they've never been involved in doping, but don't actually check whether they are being honest when they sign it. You know where they got that idea from? Another well known clean team. Катюша. What's more, the one Sky rider they got from said team didn't sign it due to some of its rather unfair conditions - although he's far from being one of Sky's more suspicious riders.

Sky made a big song and dance of incepting a zero tolerance policy, scaled it back on the quiet, then acted indignant when the Reasoned Decision forced them to acknowledge the past of some of their riders and staff (Yates and Barry, for example) and claimed they had been misled, lied to etc., even though the amount of naïveté you would have to display to believe guys like that were true to their words of innocence would be truly mind-boggling.

 

[buckle]

Let's admit it, for SKY haters everywhere it has been a bad day for us in the mountains.

"Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths." The law will go out from Zion, the word of the LORD from Jerusalem".

Hasta la vuelta, baby!

Buckle - (hack without integrity).

 

[Benotti69]

Let's admit it, for SKY haters everywhere it has been a bad day in the mountains.

"Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths." The law will go out from Zion, the word of the LORD from Jerusalem".

More like a bad day for Sky fans.

People dont hate sky per se, it is their hypocrisy. There is a difference.

 

[Cycle Chic]

It wasnt just Porte who rode backwards...what the hell happened to Geraint Thomas ?? he also collapsed when the road went upwards...

 

[Cycle Chic]

Pate's Tour de France Data

Anyone see this ? why just Pates data ?

http://www.teamsky.com/article/0,27290,17546_9380068,00.html

 

[Race Radio]

For the last couple days RAI has been talking about Giuseppe Martinelli, and his son, joining SKY next year

Yup, Pantani's DS at SKY.

 

[GuyIncognito]

Martinelli Sr + Jr to Sky

Sky quite literally could not get more clinicky than that.

 

[jens_attacks]

next directeur sportifs for sky are matxin and bombini!