Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[saganftw]

at this point,whatever drugs they doin its immoral to withhold them from public...that sh*t could save lifes,its clearly making the whole team performing above 90s epo connoisseurs

 

[Escarabajo]

Re:

Evil Sky cheating squeaky clean Dumoulin, Quintana, Landa and Nibbles.

:lol:

Lol. Did you watch all climbers get dropped by Thomas?

What about 6 riders on the last mountain climb. At least be more objective.

 

[GraftPunk]

Ahhhhhhh. That sinking feeling when you think you've been watching a cycling race, but find out it's actually professional wrestling. Tasty.

 

[Escarabajo]

Seeing Thomas win is just too much!

 

[ontheroad]

The other team leaders must be totally exasperated, different year same crushing machine. Once the race hits the mountains its over with a week and a half to go. Mountain goats simply hanging on for dear life and then left for dead by Skys.

 

[Salvarani]

It is just a bad scripted show at this point... smh smh smh

Season 5 of this ***

 

[ontheroad]

Re:

Evil Sky cheating squeaky clean Dumoulin, Quintana, Landa and Nibbles.

:lol:

Whatever Sky are doing it's completely different level gear.

 

[macbindle]

Funny how nobody noticed TTer Dumoulin dropping all the climbers...

 

[scapewalker]

Re: Re:

Evil Sky cheating squeaky clean Dumoulin, Quintana, Landa and Nibbles.

:lol:

Whatever Sky are doing it's completely different level gear.

It's been brought up before on this forum, but how sure are we Sky doesn't use their seemingly endless budget to get their hands on some next level experimental drugs (the new definition of marginal gains)?

 

[scapewalker]

Re:

Funny how nobody noticed TTer Dumoulin dropping all the climbers...

Bardet just said in an interview they didn't at all go full speed. He didn't really drop any1 but Landa and the likes.

 

[thehog]

Re: Sky

That was some full on full *** *** going on right there! Pantani’s record to drop on d’Huez! :lol:

 

[Franklin]

Re:

Evil Sky cheating squeaky clean Dumoulin, Quintana, Landa and Nibbles.

:lol:

As we established these guys are not clean, yet the Sky domestics can trade blows with these GC grandees and they are absolutely demolished by GT...

How do you think they do it? How do they reach this amazing high level beating a Nibali who most likely is far from clean? Warming down? Pillows? This is where you can do two things: Acknowledge that Sky is doping hard... ordeny reality simply to feel good and thus perpetuate the lie.

We have all seen this film before. We have seen hardcore fans believing in Lance being amused by those who saw it for what it was... and who know disgustingly left the sport as they had been gulping down lie after lie and could not face that to log in again under their old name was to admit for being an idiot.

Learn from the past and use your brain. Sky is cheating, we all know it.

 

[thehog]

Re:

Funny how nobody noticed TTer Dumoulin dropping all the climbers...

We noticed that he attacks on the decent; gained on the flat and held them on the climb but was caught by Thomas in a matter of meters.

Really wish you’d actually watch the stages.

 

[macbindle]

Re: Re:

Funny how nobody noticed TTer Dumoulin dropping all the climbers...

We noticed that he attacks on the decent; gained on the flat and held them on the climb but was caught by Thomas in a matter of meters.

Really wish you’d actually watch the stages.

See bolded.

Big TT rider can match speed of best climbers in world on MTF.

And you didn't notice it. Confirmation bias and selective vision

 

[Franklin]

Funny how nobody noticed TTer Dumoulin dropping all the climbers...

The kindergarten defense is silly.

1. TD is beyond reasonable doubt a doper (otherwise he would not win GT's)
2. TD is a generational talent according to peers.
3. TD has been a very good climber from the start and his length to weight ratio ranks him among the contenders. Hardly natural, but this is not Tony Martin TTing Pantani into the ground.

So it takes a doping generational talent like TD to be able to outpace for a bit the Sky domestics.



Let that sink in.

 

[macbindle]

Re: Re:

Evil Sky cheating squeaky clean Dumoulin, Quintana, Landa and Nibbles.

:lol:

As we established these guys are not clean, yet the Sky domestics can trade blows with these GC grandees and they are absolutely demolished by GT...

How do you think they do it? How do they reach this amazing high level beating a Nibali who most likely is far from clean? Warming down? Pillows? This is where you can do two things: Acknowledge that Sky is doping hard... ordeny reality simply to feel good and thus perpetuate the lie.

We have all seen this film before. We have seen hardcore fans believing in Lance being amused by those who saw it for what it was... and who know disgustingly left the sport as they had been gulping down lie after lie and could not face that to log in again under their old name was to admit for being an idiot.

Learn from the past and use your brain. Sky is cheating, we all know it.

See Nibali's interview posted in another thread about how modern cycling works.

If Sky are cheating they all are. What is new?

 

[macbindle]

Re:

Funny how nobody noticed TTer Dumoulin dropping all the climbers...

The kindergarten defense is silly.

1. TD is beyond reasonable doubt a doper (otherwise he would not win GT's)
2. TD is a generational talent according to peers.

So it takes a doping generational talent like TD to be able to outpace for a bit the Sky domestics.

Let that sink in.

It isn't a defence.

Let that sink in...

 

[Franklin]

You are shilling for Sky by downplaying it. We have seen it before, you know it, I know uit, so why do it?

Irony has nothing in it as you are coming up with faulty logic Now why do you come up with clearly nonsense? Can you explain why you do that?

 

[thehog]

Re: Re:

Funny how nobody noticed TTer Dumoulin dropping all the climbers...

We noticed that he attacks on the decent; gained on the flat and held them on the climb but was caught by Thomas in a matter of meters.

Really wish you’d actually watch the stages.

See bolded.

Big TT rider can match speed of best climbers in world on MTF.

And you didn't notice it. Confirmation bias and selective vision

You do know Tom D won the Giro a year ago?

 

[ontheroad]

Re: Re:

Funny how nobody noticed TTer Dumoulin dropping all the climbers...

We noticed that he attacks on the decent; gained on the flat and held them on the climb but was caught by Thomas in a matter of meters.

Really wish you’d actually watch the stages.

See bolded.

Big TT rider can match speed of best climbers in world on MTF.

And you didn't notice it. Confirmation bias and selective vision

I think only the dominance of Sky has shielded Dumoulin's performance similar to Giro Finestre stage.

Dumoulin was super strong today, holding off a lot of mountain goats for the entirety of the last mountain despite carrying 10-15kg more than a lot of those behind him.

 

[macbindle]

Exactly

 

[macbindle]

Re:

You are shilling for Sky by downplaying it. We have seen it before, you know it, I know uit, so why do it?

Irony has nothing in it as you are coming up with faulty logic Now why do you come up with clearly nonsense? Can you explain why you do that?

From what am I defending Team Sky?

 

[thehog]

Re: Re:

Funny how nobody noticed TTer Dumoulin dropping all the climbers...

We noticed that he attacks on the decent; gained on the flat and held them on the climb but was caught by Thomas in a matter of meters.

Really wish you’d actually watch the stages.

See bolded.

Big TT rider can match speed of best climbers in world on MTF.

And you didn't notice it. Confirmation bias and selective vision

I think only the dominance of Sky has shielded Dumoulin's performance similar to Giro Finestre stage.

Dumoulin was super strong today, holding off a lot of mountain goats for the entirety of the last mountain despite carrying 10-15kg more than a lot of those behind him.

TomD & Froome both rode the Giro, be interesting to see their strength tomorrow and week 3.

 

[roundabout]

Re:

Funny how nobody noticed TTer Dumoulin dropping all the climbers...

The kindergarten defense is silly.

1. TD is beyond reasonable doubt a doper (otherwise he would not win GT's)
2. TD is a generational talent according to peers.
3. TD has been a very good climber from the start and his length to weight ratio ranks him among the contenders. Hardly natural, but this is not Tony Martin TTing Pantani into the ground.

So it takes a doping generational talent like TD to be able to outpace for a bit the Sky domestics.

Let that sink in.

2. Probably not a 100% obvious "generational" talent, otherwise Rabobank would have kept him?
3. Not really. Unless you have your own definition of what a very good climber from the start is.

 

[thehog]

Re: Re:

Funny how nobody noticed TTer Dumoulin dropping all the climbers...

The kindergarten defense is silly.

1. TD is beyond reasonable doubt a doper (otherwise he would not win GT's)
2. TD is a generational talent according to peers.
3. TD has been a very good climber from the start and his length to weight ratio ranks him among the contenders. Hardly natural, but this is not Tony Martin TTing Pantani into the ground.

So it takes a doping generational talent like TD to be able to outpace for a bit the Sky domestics.

Let that sink in.

2. Probably not a 100% obvious "generational" talent, otherwise Rabobank would have kept him?
3. Not really. Unless you have your own definition of what a very good climber from the start is.

Tom D who attacked with a team mate on the decent in the Sky thread