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[NFTtiddies]

stage 1- Wout #2
Stage 2- Wout #2
Stage 3- Wout #2
Stage 4- Wout #1
Stage 5- Breakaway
Stage 6- Pogo #1
Stage 7- Pogo #1 Jonas #2
Stage 8- Wout #1
Stage 9- Breakaway
Stage 10- Breakaway
Stage 11- Jonas #1
Stage 12- Breakaway
Stage 13- Breakaway
Stage 14- Breakaway
Stage 15- Wout #2
Stage 16- Breakaway
Stage 17- Pogo #1 Jonas #2
Stage 18- Jonas #1
Stage 19- Laporte #1
Stage 20- ???
Stage 21- ???

Imagine what could have been if all the red Wout #2's were green Wout #1's

 

[rghysens]

Lol.
Most dominant team in a GT since? All 3 jerseys, 5 stage wins, constant domination and would have had 2 riders on podium if Roglic didn't crash.

Afaik Telekom in 1996. They had 1 and 2 in gc, green, white and 5 stages. But they also had the "decency" to let others win stages like the one to Cahors (Bart Voskamp beating Heppner in the stage after the pyrenees). Sky in 2012 had 6 stages and 1 and 2 in gc. La Vie Claire in 1986 was also ridiculous ( they had 4 riders in the top 10 of gc, iirc).

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

Afaik Telekom in 1996. They had 1 and 2 in gc, green, white and 5 stages. But they also had the "decency" to let others win stages like the one to Cahors (Bart Voskamp beating Heppner in the stage after the pyrenees). Sky in 2012 had 6 stages and 1 and 2 in gc. La Vie Claire in 1986 was also ridiculous ( they had 4 riders in the top 10 of gc, iirc).

La Vie Claire was insane, but basically it was divided between the LeMond and Hinault camps.

 

[hrotha]

I’m not really suspicious of WVA. He’s been a talent, and clearly can climb well, he’s done that the last three years. If the opposition wants to really narrow down on someone, it has to be Laporte, who has his best season by miles this year. I think something’s fishy around him.

There's a vast gap between "can climb well" and "is the second strongest climber of the race on Hautacam coming from the break". Especially when that "can climb well" was already raising some eyebrows by itself.

 

[Tinnekeisabella]

And suddenly he is “tired” an not sprinting today. While telling supernuclear Laporte he can go for the win.

Philipsen is right, they just decide whoever wins at any given time. It is scary.

Apart from Pogi they let everyone look like amateurs

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

There's a vast gap between "can climb well" and "is the second strongest climber of the race on Hautacam coming from the break". Especially when that "can climb well" was already raising some eyebrows by itself.

He’s been climbing well since Le Tour 2020, where he got 20th in GC. I don’t think that part is raising eyebrows.

 

[hrotha]

He’s been climbing well since Le Tour 2020, where he got 20th in GC. I don’t think that part is raising eyebrows.

That part was absolutely raising eyebrows.

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

That part was absolutely raising eyebrows.

I’m sorry, but I think the doping line is potentially crossed this year, but I think previous years it’s just his talent.

 

[Hellyea]

I remember his Strade Bianche finish where he cramped to death on the last climb. That was pre-Jumbo era.

 

[Fantastico]

He’s been climbing well since Le Tour 2020, where he got 20th in GC. I don’t think that part is raising eyebrows.

Coming from his history as a Classics and cross specialist with a strong sprint, his climbing at the Tour 2020 was already considered pretty ridiculous by many in this forum. He just managed to raise it to a whole nother level last year (Mont Ventoux) and this year.

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

Has anyone watched that TV series The Boys (it's about doped-up super heroes come villains)? Doesn't the main character Homelander remind you of Van Aert?

 

[ashhutch1997]

And just when I think this teams performances can't be anymore ridiculous, they prove me wrong again lol!!

 

[Didinho]

For me it's Van Hooydonck with the most ridiculous change this year. He was known as a good time trialist but hasn't been much in top 20 in those. Only the 6-7th best in Belgium. Couldn't cross a bridge to save his life in stage races or classics.

The stage where he pulled the peloton for 90km on the flat before reducing the group to 25 on a big mountain was just weird to see.

 

[staubsauger]

And suddenly he is “tired” an not sprinting today. While telling supernuclear Laporte he can go for the win.

Philipsen is right, they just decide whoever wins at any given time. It is scary.

Apart from Pogi they let everyone look like amateurs

Like I said, if it wasn't for Covid-19 WvA either wins Flanders or Paris-Roubaix. Jumbo is busy with a Gewiss-Ballan season.

 

[JohnWayne]

I remember his Strade Bianche finish where he cramped to death on the last climb. That was pre-Jumbo era.

In his, what, second proper big WT road race? And still finished third. I wouldn’t exactly call that an indication of lacking talent.

 

[Forever The Best]

That part was absolutely raising eyebrows.

His performance on Glieres that year was shocking. Was among the top 7-8 climbers from main group that day IIRC.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Been away for a while but it's nice to come back to the familiarity of people trying to find reasonable explanations for absurd performances.

 

[Pantani_lives]

2000s US Postal
2010s Team Sky
2020s Jumbo-Visma

The big red flag is always when the helpers from one team can drop the leaders from other teams. We've seen that three times this century. It ruins the sport.

 

[42x16ss]

La Vie Claire was insane, but basically it was divided between the LeMond and Hinault camps.

It was 4 in the Top 7 and the division in the team reached the point where people on the team were starting to back Hampsten in private, hoping he'd put Hinault and LeMond in their place the environment was so toxic.

At least from the outside Jumbo seems quite harmonious.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Has anyone watched that TV series The Boys (it's about doped-up super heroes come villains)? Doesn't the main character Homelander remind you of Van Aert?

When you blow up Pogacar as a 76kg 'classic specialist' and the people liked it

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HkRYtjwUzw

 

[Cookster15]

Until the UCI or whoever is responsible for the doping controls finds something concrete we are restricted to venting our spleens in the Clinic. The passport might not reveal anything for years (Cobo).

But I object to the obvious revenge being enacted by this team over what happened on La Planche des Belles Filles in 2020. And today we had our collective noses rubbed in it with Laporte.

Enough. I find it impossible to enjoy this Tour, I don't enjoy being insulted.

 

[red_flanders]

Just thinking about Wout’s “knee injury” before the Tour which had him pull out of the nationals, along with the rest of the team having similar excuses. Easy explanation is that they were all glowing like fireflies during that window.

 

[Savant12]

Are WVA's knees actual human knees or he is going full cyborg?

 

[rghysens]

Like I said, if it wasn't for Covid-19 WvA either wins Flanders or Paris-Roubaix. Jumbo is busy with a Gewiss-Ballan season.

Gewiss wasn't that blatant.

 

[Rackham]

Until the UCI or whoever is responsible for the doping controls finds something concrete we are restricted to venting our spleens in the Clinic. The passport might not reveal anything for years (Cobo).

But I object to the obvious revenge being enacted by this team over what happened on La Planche des Belles Filles in 2020. And today we had our collective noses rubbed in it with Laporte.

Enough. I find it impossible to enjoy this Tour, I don't enjoy being insulted.

"Revenge Tour" is correct terminology. They've taken their 'revenge' on everyone involved in that result, including Roglic as well (i.e. given the 'chance' to literally bend the knee & serve, but nothing more).

In any case they're taking the p*ss now, even with their pr department, i.e. Grischa Niermann literally saying Laporte is "pas normal"

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