Tennis

[the asian]

I've always wondered about Amelie Mauresmo, her big forehead, and her man-shoulders. I always thought she could win a Fabio lookalike contest.

She is a lesbian though.

 

[Thasp Blog]

By the way, here is a compilation post that sets out the entire case against tennis anti-doping program: http://tennishasasteroidproblem.blogspot.ca/p/the-case-against-tennis.html

 

[Anonymous]

According to their website, so far in 2012 USADA have carried out 14 tests in Tennis (all out of competition).

That compares with cycling 544, Swimming 544, Track and Field 1564, Paralympic Volleyball 16, Curling 15 and Cheerleading 10!

LOL, curling! What kind of doping would people in curling be taking? Similar drugs to archery or golf?

It's funny when there is that small amount of testing! I guess it would suffice to test only top 50 players frequently.

Well while we're talking number - some of most lucrative sports from the same list:
Baseball 6
Basketball 74
Football 25
Soccer 28
TOTAL test made 5290

I couldn't find golf on the list

It's unbelievable that the sports that have the most incentive (aka money) to dope are among least tested ones!

 

[poupou]

Athletes of minor sports test positive because they often don't take care of drugs, they are living an ordinary life, if they have a cold, they take what they have.

 

[LauraLyn]

. . . . Well while we're talking number - some of most lucrative sports from the same list:
Baseball 6
Basketball 74
Football 25
Soccer 28
TOTAL test made 5290

I couldn't find golf on the list

It's unbelievable that the sports that have the most incentive (aka money) to dope are among least tested ones!

A golfer has been caught doping as well.

 

[Tinman]

A golfer has been caught doping as well.

Laura please, I know you can contribute here. Any real dirt, insides, suspicions on LA, Livestrong?

 

[LauraLyn]

LauraLyn please, I know you can contribute here. Any real dirt, insides, suspicions on LA, LiveStrong?

Tinman, hmm "dirt." Just between you and me, I have inside information that Lance wore dirty socks yesterday at the Alpine Odyssey. You understand that I need to protect my sources. Please don't tell anyone I told you.

 

[Dead Star]

Bumping this. WAtching the Sharapova-Stosur match. Is the latter Lleyton Hewitt in a dress? Jeez.

 

[Cycle Chic]

saMANtha stosur

Actually I reckon she's toned it down...getting too many questions about those biceps. And what about those legs of ERRANI ? water retention = steroids...oh and Mr Ferrari.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

Murray contradicting himself:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...rugs-penalties--and-no-reprieves-8231546.html

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Murray contradicting himself:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...rugs-penalties--and-no-reprieves-8231546.html

"you can't teach the skill by taking a drug"

A bug bear of mind. You can improve a skill by repeated practice, which can be repeated more often by the use of a drug.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

"you can't teach the skill by taking a drug"

A bug bear of mind. You can improve a skill by repeated practice, which can be repeated more often by the use of a drug.

The thing is Murray has repeatedly blasted the testing as invasive yet now he's saying they don't test enough, it's like a PR guru has had a word with him.

I thought it was a badly written article as well mentioning how tennis doesn't have a drug problem, how would they know if tennis has a drug culture when they don't test to find out.

 

[zebedee]

This is pure ATP bullsh.t. Murray is off cycle and these players don't get tested anyway plus they are allowed a couple of strikes (i.e hide from testers) before sanctions kick in. Serena Williams used her panic room in one celebrated incident, claiming she feared a break in!

All ATP top twenty players should be tested weekly and any player who skips a test should be required to cover the abortive costs of the ADO concerned. All dopers, including cyclists, need to be hit very, very hard in the pocket - not that covering the costs of a missed test will unduly worry Murray. He'd be mighty annoyed though.

Tsong has recently commented, in the context of the Armstrong revelations, about doping in tennis which in his expressed view 'as always, stems from the top down'. Work into that what you will.

 

[simo1733]

In 2011 USADA tested Ben Jaques-Maynes 7 times out if competition.In contrast they tested the Williams sisters only once since 2010.

 

[thirteen]

Andy Murray calls on tennis to get tough on drugs in the wake of the Lance Armstrong scandal in cycling

 

[martinvickers]

This is pure ATP bullsh.t. Murray is off cycle and these players don't get tested anyway plus they are allowed a couple of strikes (i.e hide from testers) before sanctions kick in. Serena Williams used her panic room in one celebrated incident, claiming she feared a break in!

All ATP top twenty players should be tested weekly and any player who skips a test should be required to cover the abortive costs of the ADO concerned. All dopers, including cyclists, need to be hit very, very hard in the pocket - not that covering the costs of a missed test will unduly worry Murray. He'd be mighty annoyed though.

Tsong has recently commented, in the context of the Armstrong revelations, about doping in tennis which in his expressed view 'as always, stems from the top down'. Work into that what you will.

At the risk of offending the iberians among us, rumours linking Fuentes to spanish tennis players were rife not so long ago - and it's very hard not to see how tennis more generally has morphed into a baseline endurance game, even at wimbledon (natural bigserver home). If you don't think endurance doping would help in tennis, you're not being honest.

 

[zebedee]

As you say, endurance, the ability to train at higher tempo and for longer, plus of course recovering from it all and doing the same again the next day. Recovery is a massive factor for the pros.

Peds are as suited to tennis, as tennis to peds.

Murray's latest comment stand in stark contast to his previous negative utterances on anti-doping which he saw as a great inconvenience to himself. Plus he vastly over-exaggerated the amount of testing he was subjected to, claiming at one point he'd been tested 25 times in a year when it was more like five.

I liked Pimotti's idea. Hit the dopers really hard so they feel the economic consequences. Imagine Murray having to put his hands in his pockets.

 

[blackcat]

This is pure ATP bullsh.t. Murray is off cycle and these players don't get tested anyway plus they are allowed a couple of strikes (i.e hide from testers) before sanctions kick in. Serena Williams used her panic room in one celebrated incident, claiming she feared a break in!

All ATP top twenty players should be tested weekly and any player who skips a test should be required to cover the abortive costs of the ADO concerned. All dopers, including cyclists, need to be hit very, very hard in the pocket - not that covering the costs of a missed test will unduly worry Murray. He'd be mighty annoyed though.

Tsong has recently commented, in the context of the Armstrong revelations, about doping in tennis which in his expressed view 'as always, stems from the top down'. Work into that what you will.

Why does Serena need a panic room.

She bench presses her partner after coitus to give herself a full workout

 

[sniper]

Why does Serena need a panic room.

She bench presses her partner after coitus to give herself a full workout

I'd panic if I were a tester tasked with OOC-testing Serena.

 

[SpannerBender]

http://www.itftennis.com/shared/medialibrary/pdf/original/IO_62235_original.PDF

Serena never tested out of comp through 2011

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

"It's a pretty intense system"

The hilarity continues...

Serena Williams: "Stringent enough is putting it mildly. People show up at my house at five in the morning trying to test me. You never know when they come. Yeah, I get tested a lot. I don't know about the other players, but for me it's a pretty intense system, and I know a lot of the players feel the same way."

Testing has been anything but "intense" for Serena. She was not tested out-of-competition by the ITF or the USADA in either 2010 and 2011. The ITF tested her between 1-3 times in-competition in 2011 and 7+ times in-competition in 2010.

Also, I'd note that Serena says people are "trying to test" her. How often do they succeed?

http://tennishasasteroidproblem.blogspot.se/2012/10/its-pretty-intense-system.html#comment-form

 

[zebedee]

Most pro tennis players' utterances bear very little relation to the actualité.
Ferrer (world no 5) now claims no knowledge of or prior connection with Del Moral when it is plainly known the two were in association.

 

[dermotmeagher]

Doping has long gone on in tennis. McEnroe probably doped, particularly in late career when his estranged wife made claims relating to his steroid abuse. He also infers use of recreational drugs in his auobiography - something I've come to recognise as a good sign that something else more serious is going on in parallel. Sampras is rumoured to have blood-doped, to address his inherited blood disorder. Agassi doped after teaming up with his trainer, Gil Reyes. Tennis players simply don't bench press 350 pounds or so. His admission to crystal meth use, again a digression, wasn't one tenth of the whole story. Rusedski and others doped, well after the ATP had told players to stop using its contaminated supplements (some with nandrolone to assist recovery). He got off on a technicality, convenient to all including the tennis authorities. In those days it was the ATP/WTA themselves that did the anti-doping, a complete joke.

You can prove the highlighted statements above, I trust?

 

[dermotmeagher]

Bumping this. WAtching the Sharapova-Stosur match. Is the latter Lleyton Hewitt in a dress? Jeez.

But she lost, and again the next day to Errani.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

You can prove the highlighted statements above, I trust?

We're on an Internet forum, this isnt a court of law chill out.

Victor Conte mentioned Rusedski as a doper in his interview with Joe Rogan last week.