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Update #33: A flashke of brilliance

Pardon the late update this week, I'm travelling - expect next week's at a similar time, I'll be driving full days the first few days of the week.

The opening week of the Vuelta brought a few races, but none of the overlapping GC points of .HC and above races that has been the norm the last month or so. The totals are relatively modest for the week, but there is enough of a difference between teams that it has created some separation in the top of the overall field.

This Week's Top Scorers

Rank Team Points this week
1 flashke 429
2 18-Valve. (pithy) 400
3 CQmanager 385
4 WKA311 378
5 kabete 356

flashke takes top spot with over 400 points this week! As is the case on lots of weeks here, it was a combo of rare picks that did it - namely the 128 points from Wout Wippert (4 teams) and the 100 from Timothy Dupont (3 teams), plus 74 more from the relatively rare gift that keeps on giving, Fabio Jakobsen, as well as a few dozen from a few riders. 18-Valve comes close but has to settle for 2nd place, as one of the other teams with Wippert and Jakobsen, but the slightly fewer points from Valverde (70) and Cosenfroy (52). CQmanager slides into 3rd with contributions from a different group, namely Nils Pollitt (113), Max Schachmann (92), and Rohan Dennis (88).

This Week's High Movers

Rank Team Up/down
1 flashke (+9)
2 Koronin (+6)
2 WKA311 (+6)
2 Akuryo (+6)
2 laarsland (+6)
2 ansimi (+6)
2 18-Valve. (pithy) (+6)

It's late in the season and lots of teams have lots of points, so the moves aren't as big, which leads to a 6-way tie for second place. flashke translates the big week into a distinct win on this chart too, though.

Green Jersey Competition

Rank Team Total
1 archieboy 221
2 Squire 220
3 greenedge 179
4 ChrisDK 173
5 Eric10 162

There is a change at the top! After scoring for the last 3 weeks in a row, including 12 points this week, archieboy moves into an ever-so-slight 1 point lead over Squire. No one else in the top 10 of this ranking scored this week.

Top 10 Overall

Rank Up/down Team Points
1 (-) ruvu75 12741
2 (-) Squire 12595
3 (-) TheArt 12444
4 (-) Gigs_98 11764
5 (-) trackstand 11494
6 (-) PeterB 11287
7 (+3) Manafana 11227
8 (-) greenedge 11135
9 (-2) LosBrolin 11097
10 (+1) Eyeballs Out 11083

Not alot of change in placings, but a bit more separation at the top - ruvu75 continues a solid run with 245 points this week, to Squire's 153 and TheArt's 205. Those 3 are ahead by alot as they have been, but Squire is now about equidistant from 1st and 3rd. Things are a bit closer in the 6-10 slots, but not much movement there either. Eyeballs Out jumps into the top 10, while Bicycle Boy slides out.

Spreadsheet at dropbox
 
While my team is still in the Top 10, it is becoming pretty decimated towards the end of the season:

Thomas - ended his season. And I counted on him to score many extra points in the Worlds, where he should normally be among the best in all 3 disciplines...
Chaves - out due to sickness, very little likelihood of racing again this season
Gesink - out due to recent training crash, just before the Canadian races, the Worlds and Lombardia where he could score well over 100 points according to my plans :)
Cavendish - out due to sickness
Lawrence Naesen - out since May due to sickness, but perhaps will return to racing this month but who knows in what form and what races he can do
Mamykin - clearly enjoying himself judging by his few recent instagram posts but hardly any points can be expected from him
Archbold - like Mamykin, no team, no races, no points
Konig - who knows what's up with him but definitely big fat zero this year...

How are your teams doing?
 
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PeterB said:
While my team is still in the Top 10, it is becoming pretty decimated towards the end of the season:

Thomas - ended his season. And I counted on him to score many extra points in the Worlds, where he should normally be among the best in all 3 disciplines...
Chaves - out due to sickness, very little likelihood of racing again this season
Gesink - out due to recent training crash, just before the Canadian races, the Worlds and Lombardia where he could score well over 100 points according to my plans :)
Cavendish - out due to sickness
Lawrence Naesen - out since May due to sickness, but perhaps will return to racing this month but who knows in what form and what races he can do
Mamykin - clearly enjoying himself judging by his few recent instagram posts but hardly any points can be expected from him
Archbold - like Mamykin, no team, no races, no points
Konig - who knows what's up with him but definitely big fat zero this year...

How are your teams doing?
Ill swap Thomas for one of my guys still racing :mad:
 
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PeterB said:
While my team is still in the Top 10, it is becoming pretty decimated towards the end of the season:

Thomas - ended his season. And I counted on him to score many extra points in the Worlds, where he should normally be among the best in all 3 disciplines...
Chaves - out due to sickness, very little likelihood of racing again this season
Gesink - out due to recent training crash, just before the Canadian races, the Worlds and Lombardia where he could score well over 100 points according to my plans :)
Cavendish - out due to sickness
Lawrence Naesen - out since May due to sickness, but perhaps will return to racing this month but who knows in what form and what races he can do
Mamykin - clearly enjoying himself judging by his few recent instagram posts but hardly any points can be expected from him
Archbold - like Mamykin, no team, no races, no points
Konig - who knows what's up with him but definitely big fat zero this year...

How are your teams doing?

Depends on which rider we're talking about. The ones with issues:

Roson - suspended
Cavendish - out with illness again
Betancur - great question, who knows, hasn't raced since May and doubt he will either
Fernandez - spent most of the first half of the season injured (At least he's now racing.)

On the positive side Terpstra has had a crazy good season, Hodeg is doing great and much better than I expected and of course there's the ever consistent and prolific winner in Valverde who is 2 wins of his all-time high win total for a season.

Summary, I've got some extremes on my team this year.
 
Update #34: Shawn with the wind

Another sort of transition week with the Vuelta stages in play and a few .HC races, but not much more, the median score wasn't too high, but there was still some pretty high scores at the top.

This Week's Top Scorers

Rank Team Points this week
1 Shawnm4747 598
2 trackstand 484
3 Total Package 453
4 Hakkie2 435
5 NairoQ 431

With very few points available outside of the Vuelta stages, the fact that Pascal Ackermann continued his unfathomably good season by winning both 1.HC races this weekend - netting 280 points - was a big boon to the 6 teams that continue to reap the benefits of owning him. Having Ackermann was a necessary but not sufficient condition for winning the week. Shawnm4747 takes the week on the back of those points, but also with over 100 points from Sagan, who now leads the CQ year rankings. Other decent points from Senechal, Van Poppel and Nizzolo help guide their team to first this week. trackstand scores a (distant) second place with points from Acerkmann, DvP, Nizzolo and a smattering from Ion Izagirre and Consonni, while Total Package nabs third from mostly some of the names above.

This Week's High Movers

Rank Team Up/down
1 Shawnm4747 (+14)
2 NairoQ (+13)
3 WKA311 (+6)
3 Total Package (+6)
3 Kryvo (+6)
3 Hakkie2 (+6)

Shawnm4747 wins this one again, although it's much closer to second place this time. NairoQ moves up a solid 13 spots in the overall, with of course Ackermann leading the way, and even 10 points from namesake Nairo Q. Third place is a four way tie.

This Month's Top Scorers

Rank Team Points this Month
1 trackstand 2042
2 comodoro 2010
3 archieboy 2008
4 kabete 1995
5 Akuryo 1859

It was a tight month at the top (and of course it's not a perfect 'month', ending a few days into September), but the surging trackstand takes top spot, moving ahead of the competition with a great final week. I know a team had around 2000 points in a single week earlier this year, so August was maybe not the biggest month, but those totals are very helpful in this game nonetheless. Let's take a look at trackstand's biggest scorers: Ackermann was by far the biggest (415 points!), but there were a number of other good performances in Alaphilippe (220), MA Lopez (195), Carthy (189), Nizzolo finally getting back on track (152), and Formolo, Izagirre, Terpstra, Consonni, DvP and even Ed Planckaert scoring over 70 for the month. comodoro comes oh so close but has to be content with just a great month, without even help from Ackermann - just solid months all around from great rare picks like Sepp Kuss, Ivan Sosa, Jan-Willem Van Schip, Ben Hermans, Dylan Van Baarle and Alvaro Hodeg. If it wasn't for some unfortunate seasons from high-priced picks Felline and Meintjes, their team would certainly be up there in the overall, as that's an impressive set of picks! archieboy also comes very close but ends up third on the month, with a big performance from unique pick Matej Mohoric (429!), as well as being the other team with Kuss and the only team with David de la Cruz (120).

This Month's High Movers

Rank Team Up/down
1 Akuryo (+23)
2 comodoro (+21)
2 WKA311 (+21)
4 Blues in the bottle (+17)
4 Hakkie2 (+17)

A different leader here, with Akuryo having a consistent enough month to leap 23 spots in the rankings. Their team gets big points by being one of the only two to pick Kwiatkowski (who scored 509 in August), and one of 8 to pick Max Schachmann (259). comodoro is bridesmaid here again, tied with WKA311.

Green Jersey Competition


Rank Team Total
1 archieboy 221
2 Squire 220
3 greenedge 179
4 ChrisDK 173
5 Kryvo 167

After some upheval last week, these rankings are a little more quiet, with Kryvo scoring 20 points to move into the top 5 overall (although more than a week's win away from top spot) but little movement elsewhere up top.

Top 10 Overall

Rank Up/down Team Points
1 (-) ruvu75 12888
2 (-) Squire 12750
3 (-) TheArt 12588
4 (+1) trackstand 11978
5 (-1) Gigs_98 11836
6 (-) PeterB 11439
7 (-) Manafana 11300
8 (-) greenedge 11297
9 (+4) Bicycle_Boy 11263
10 (-1) LosBrolin 11256

Things are pretty stable in terms of places at the top of the table, and indeed the top 3 were only separated by 11 points on the week (Squire had the best week at 155 points), but the stratification at the top masks trackstand's steady move up the table. Despite scoring over 3-400 points more on the week than most teams in the top 10, trackstand only moves up 1 spot, and has a large gap to the podium. Bicycle Boy leaps back into the top 10 at the expense of Eyeballs Out, but that is with 209 points on the week - the rest of the top 10 scored between 72 and 162 on the week, so the movements weren't too big. This week is the Canadian races and more Vuelta, so we shall see what will happen.

spreadsheet at dropbox
 
Re: Re:

del1962 said:
PeterB said:
While my team is still in the Top 10, it is becoming pretty decimated towards the end of the season:

Thomas - ended his season. And I counted on him to score many extra points in the Worlds, where he should normally be among the best in all 3 disciplines...
Chaves - out due to sickness, very little likelihood of racing again this season
Gesink - out due to recent training crash, just before the Canadian races, the Worlds and Lombardia where he could score well over 100 points according to my plans :)
Cavendish - out due to sickness
Lawrence Naesen - out since May due to sickness, but perhaps will return to racing this month but who knows in what form and what races he can do
Mamykin - clearly enjoying himself judging by his few recent instagram posts but hardly any points can be expected from him
Archbold - like Mamykin, no team, no races, no points
Konig - who knows what's up with him but definitely big fat zero this year...

How are your teams doing?
Ill swap Thomas for one of my guys still racing :mad:
At least you can still hope if your guys continue racing. Now Thomas and those 7 other guys are useless to my team for the remaining season. Althoug Thomas was kind enough to earn 6 final points in the ToB.
So now my team is effectivelg down to 25 riders...
 
Update #35: Blues in the bottle takes second week of the season

You've got some Vuelta, you've got the Canadian races, you've got the Tour of Britain won by a popular rider... things are chugging along to the inevitably massive GC week of the Vuelta coming up. Let's see how this week went.

This Week's Top Scorers

Rank Team Points this week
1 Blues in the bottle 664
2 Eric10 611
3 karaev 569
4 torcia_86 538
4 greenedge 538

Julian Alaphilippe, on 59 teams, would be expected to be the backbone of a winning team this week, scoring 224 points from the Tour of Britain as his solid season keeps rolling. With 0-picked Michael Matthews sweeping up the major points in Canada (and 0-picked Greg van Avermaet getting most of the runner up points), this was even more the case. And indeed, the winning teams this week were based off of the flying Frenchman. Blues in the bottle, who also triumphed 5 weeks ago, ends up on top with an impressive array of depth - their second highest scorer (MA Lopez) on the week was 80 points, and double-digit points scores from no fewer than 14 other riders (on top of the two mentioned) built a solid base to win the week. Eric10, who is also a previous winner (having won weeks 18 and 19), comes in a respectable second with Alapilippe's points and a major contribution from a rider that won their team the other weeks - (puts on Paul Sherwen voice) a certain Mr. Simon Yates. And if things don't go full Giro, expect to see Eric10's team up there again next week. Karaev lands in third place with Roglic points on top of Alaphilippe.

This Week's High Movers

Rank Team Up/down
1 Blues in the bottle (+14)
2 tom_jelte (+8)
3 DFA123 (+6)
3 zlev11 (+6)
5 WKA311 (+5)
5 Brullnux (+5)
5 kabete (+5)

It's late in the season so there's less dramatic movement in the overall, and Blues in the bottle doubles up here. A new name shows up in second, as tom_jelte moves up 8 spots, and DFA123 and zlev11 tie for third.

Green Jersey Competition

Rank Team Total
1 archieboy 221
2 Squire 220
3 greenedge 203
4 Eric10 197
5 ChrisDK 173

Some happenings here, as greenedge (24 points) and Eric10 (35 points) move to within striking distance of the top (and, as I said above, with Simon Yates on the team, look out for Eric10 next week). Blues in the bottle also moves into a tie for 7th with the weekly win, although the top 5 shown here are the only teams within one weekly win - ie. 45 points - of the lead.

Top 10 Overall

Rank Up/down Team Points
1 (-) ruvu75 13397
2 (-) Squire 13189
3 (-) TheArt 13011
4 (-) trackstand 12435
5 (-) Gigs_98 12317
6 (+2) greenedge 11835
7 (+3) LosBrolin 11766
8 (+5) kabete 11729
9 (-3) PeterB 11701
10 (+1) Eyeballs Out 11700

The rich get richer here for the most part, as everyone but the Alaphilippe-less PeterB scores between 423 and 538 on the week. ruvu75 extends their lead slightly (the highest scoring of the top 3 with 509), and kabete leaps into the top 10, while Bicycle Boy falls back out.

This week is Vuelta GC points! Probably the biggest week left in the game for the most amount of people - after this, the Worlds and Italian classics can give big weeks to a minority of players who have relevant riders, but the Vuelta is always when seasons start winding down and it becomes a game of 'who has riders left'.

spreadsheet at dropbox
 
Update #36: Vuelta fray clarifies the frontrunners

Well, it's a GT GC week, so the CQ game was ripe to have some bombs go off. As well, there were a few 1.1 and HC races, and must-have Julian Alaphilippe somehow wrangled another 150 or so points out of Slovakia of all places. This isn't quite the highest scoring week of all time in this game, but it's not far off, with 54(!!) teams scoring over 1000 points for the week.

This Week's Top Scorers

Rank Team Points this week
1 zlev11 1782
2 AlyKaptan 1779
3 fauniera 1626
4 Valv.Piti 1545
5 Maaaaaaaarten 1501

And with all those points, the race for the top is decided by only 3! zlev11 scores the narrow victory, which wouldn't have happened without being one of the four teams to pick Simon Yates. With 677 points on the week to get to a monstrous 2261 on the season, Yates leads the charge for zlev11's team. Oh wait, you say their team also has the rest of the podium? Enric Mas and Miguel Angel Lopez were both picked quite a bit more than Yates, but the podium combo is extremely valuable to have, accounting for 1521 points alone between them this week, which would get a team in the top 5 for the week. zlev11 was put over the top by the stage win of rare pick Jelle Wallays, as well as solid GC points from the more-anonymous Formolo and Brambilla. AlyKaptan also had an incredible week but came up just short, having the entire podium plus Brambilla as well, but a few less points from a supporting cast that included Cristian Rodriguez, Nizzolo, and the other Yates who got 21 points. Last year's winner fauniera leads the non-Yatesers for the week, having the other two on the podium, and the bold combo of Valverde and Alaphilippe.

This Week's High Movers

Rank Team Up/down
1 AlyKaptan (+24)
2 zlev11 (+21)
3 Amis_Velo (+16)
4 Kjellus (+14)
4 Leadbelly (+14)
4 Vesica (+14)

Even on this monumental points week, the moves up and down the standings are rather muted, due to the lateness of the season. The top 2 from the previous ranking switch places here, and Amis_Velo slips into third (despite being 24th on points for the week!), jumping 16 spots on the back of contributions from Lopez, Mas, Quintana, and a bunch of riders that got around 40 points like Cras, Van Poppel, or Manzin.

Green Jersey Competition

Rank Team Total
1 Squire 240
2 archieboy 221
3 Eric10 214
4 greenedge 203
5 zlev11 186

It is a very new-look top 5 this week. Let's start at the top - Squire reclaims the pole position after being down 1 point to archieboy, getting 20 points for 6th place on the week. archieboy doesn't score any this week, but Eric10 scores 17 to leapfrog greenedge into the top 3. Weekly winner zlev11 uses those 45 points, meanwhile, to stake a claim in the top 5 overall as well. The top four teams are within a weekly win away from the top spot, but few opportunities are remaining in the year.

Top 10 Overall

Rank Up/down Team Points
1 (-) ruvu75 14790
2 (-) Squire 14605
3 (-) TheArt 13908
4 (-) trackstand 13575
5 (-) Gigs_98 13542
6 (+4) Eyeballs Out 12965
7 (-) LosBrolin 12960
8 (+5) Total Package 12924
9 (+5) Wallenquist 12880
10 (+2) Manafana 12834

At first glance one might be inclined to think there wasn't much that came of this big week due to the lack of place swapping in the top 5, but that doesn't tell the whole story, as point differences amongst some contenders were quite pronounced. ruvu75 and Squire are locked in a battle at the top, and both kept it up this week, finishing tied for 7th and in sole position of 6th on the week, respectively. Squire gained 23 points, outscoring ruvu 1416 to 1393, which is a relatively minuscule difference but keeps things close enough that something like, say, a good Michael Woods performance in the Worlds could vault team Squire into top spot. The same can't be said for TheArt, who has doggedly been keeping pace with the top 2 until this week, as they scored a normally good 897 points and ended up 68th on the week, but losing 500 points in a week to their two rivals feels like a knockout blow. None of the rest of the top 10 outscored ruvu or Squire, effectively making this overall a two horse race. There are some impressive leaps in the bottom half of the top 10, with Total Package, Wallenquist and Manafana jumping in, while PeterB, kabete and greenedge fall out.

spreadsheet at dropbox
 
haha, those scores :surprised: :lol:

I actually scored more points than I thought I did and came lower than I thought I would! :lol:
think that was probably my record scoring week and I only moved up 2 positions. at least I am back into the top 20 (for now).
 
I am in much the same boat with escartin: with Mas, Lopez, Brambilla, Carapaz, Formolo, Nizzolo, and Van Poppel, I thought that I must have had a good week, but instead my team was only 40th on the week and I actually slipped one place in the overall standings. It goes to show just how many points were on offer this week.
 
Thanks for the update!

Fun fact: zlev11, who now won the Vuelta week by 3 points, lost out on the win in last year's Vuelta week by four points. I'd say it's deserved. :D

A podium seems pretty secure for my team now, which would make me happy. It would of course be great to win it, but I need something special to overtake Ruvu75. This week was quite frustrating in that regard. Whenever I had a Taaramäe in 2nd place, Ruvu had a Gasparotto in 3rd.
 
I really like that gap behind my fifth place and for the first time I actually feel comfortable of staying in this position. Moreover I gained some ground on trackstand and theArt so maybe, just maybe there is still a chance for a podium. One can dream, right :D
 
Thanks for the update. We're headed home tomorrow to clean up from the hurricane. The entire area has no internet, so no idea when it will be back so I can talk with you all again. May have limited coverage with cell phone data.
 
The recurring questions which comes back to haunt you:

What good does being 1 of 4 to pick strong roleur Valentin Madouas at 1200%-profit gain you overall
when
You pick both Aru and Ed Theuns at a 25%-profif as your two most expensive riders?

Mediocrity...
 
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laarsland said:
The recurring questions which comes back to haunt you:

What good does being 1 of 4 to pick strong roleur Valentin Madouas at 1200%-profit gain you overall
when
You pick both Aru and Ed Theuns at a 25%-profif as your two most expensive riders?

Mediocrity...

No kidding. I picked Madouas and Hodeg, but have riders like Rosen and Bettiol
 

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