The 3 GT and 7 one-week races.

[VayaVayaVaya]

Not to speak of his tts which should be a cheatcode in oneweekers.

Although the 1weekers are also less tt-biased than before

Great point

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Evenepoel being on there, with Almeida and Ayuso having checked off more than him, is pretty wild.

I'm not here to bash Remco, and if he were a stock I'd buy the dip right now, but the fact that people consistently argue he is the 3rd best GC rider and he just has 1 Vuelta win from back in 2022 to his name is definitely pretty wild. It's odd that he has demonstrated every skill needed to be a dominant force in isolation - ITTs, climbing, classic style days - and yet he just never seems to put it all together in the same race.

 

[canina82]

I'm not here to bash Remco, and if he were a stock I'd buy the dip right now, but the fact that people consistently argue he is the 3rd best GC rider and he has 1 Vuelta win from back in 2022 to his name is definitely pretty wild. It's odd that he has demonstrated every skill needed to be a dominant force in isolation - ITTs, climbing, classic style days - and yet he just never seems to put it all together in the same race.

The problem with Remco is he was a dominant force (climbing) only in the Vuelta. In any other stage race, he never was dominant.

 

[Potomac]

Remco's WT level GC wins:
Vuelta
Poland
UAE

 

[Peter von]

I'm not here to bash Remco, and if he were a stock I'd buy the dip right now, but the fact that people consistently argue he is the 3rd best GC rider and he just has 1 Vuelta win from back in 2022 to his name is definitely pretty wild. It's odd that he has demonstrated every skill needed to be a dominant force in isolation - ITTs, climbing, classic style days - and yet he just never seems to put it all together in the same race.

His TdF 2024 also made a strong case for him being third best GC rider, more so than his Vuelta win IMO.

But yeah, that's just one occasion where he was clearly better than all then non-Pogsi/vingos around.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Until that changes Roglič should be in first column, considering he won the most.

 

[AmRacer]

Until that changes Roglič should be in first column, considering he won the most.

4 Tours >> Roglic

 

[CyclistAbi]

4 Tours >> Roglic

It's uncommon to gather such statistics for comparison on where the very top athlete is listed in third place. So please ditch the bias and correct that. Once some other rider does better then Rogla, then you can push Rogla back. Until then the top one should be listed in top spot and challengers some level below that.

 

[AmRacer]

It's uncommon to gather such statistics for comparison on where the very top athlete is listed in third place. So please ditch the bias and correct that. Once some other rider does better then Rogla, then you can push Rogla back. Until then the top one should be listed in top spot and challengers some level below that.

This is the correct way, you can compose your own list as you like.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@AmRacer

Factually it's not correct, as the best athlete in some metric should come on top, but OK you don't want to change the bias. Fine.

 

[AmRacer]

@AmRacer

Factually it's not correct, as the best athlete in some metric should come on top, but OK you don't want to change the bias. Fine.

It's perfectly correct. You can create your own table as you like.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Until that changes Roglič should be in first column, considering he won the most.

It's uncommon to gather such statistics for comparison on where the very top athlete is listed in third place. So please ditch the bias and correct that. Once some other rider does better then Rogla, then you can push Rogla back. Until then the top one should be listed in top spot and challengers some level below that.

@AmRacer

Factually it's not correct, as the best athlete in some metric should come on top, but OK you don't want to change the bias. Fine.

The table is clearly indicated on how the order is measured. Like @AmRacer said, if you want to organize it by wins then go right ahead.

The best athlete is on top, Pogacar is clearly better than Roglic in all metrics of stage racing bar wins due to Roglic racing more of them. Vingegaard has shown to be better as well. Unfortunately your bias is showing and maybe we now know why that view of Roglic was shown in the previous race.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Almeida is clearly better than Ayuso though. He has more stage race victories and better GT results, and according to @noob he also has by far the nicest voice in cycling.