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It’s disappointing. NBC has all this money, resources, and manpower, yet they cover it like it’s the national champs.
While not as exciting I like watching the nationals because I think that is when US commentators (especially the former track & field stars) are more objective and maybe even a bit more critical of their own. But once it becomes international it all of a sudden becomes USA! USA! USA! Blah, blah, blah... it becomes pretty nauseating.

Edit: I should mention TV commentators operate differently than fans who are actually attending a meet in person - at the Pre Classic here at Hayward Field back in the golden years we rooted for just about any athlete regardless of nationality. Can't really speak for the atmosphere at the new Hayward Field because I've never been, but at the old one the crowd went just nuts each time a record was about to be set. (And if everyone made it under 4 mins in the Bowerman mile so much the better!)
 
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Tamberi really is the most unlikable active Italian athlete. Always chasing the media attention and the cameras and always around to celebrate and steal the spotlight when another Italian track and field athlete wins something. That said, apparently he's well liked among the Italian athletes and seems to genuinly be happy about their wins.
 
He just seems like a genuinely happy guy from what I've seen. Pretty clear why his teammates like him when he's so excited to celebrate their success. Also, how can you dislike either of these guys?
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH4RR4_BCvU
Loved seeing the competition between those two, they kept on jumping until they were both too tired to continue, so they just said feck it, let's just share the gold! I thought it was a truly heartwarming moment.
 
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He just seems like a genuinely happy guy from what I've seen. Pretty clear why his teammates like him when he's so excited to celebrate their success. Also, how can you dislike either of these guys?
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH4RR4_BCvU
I guess it has to do with him being almost too dominant in the Italian media and how he threw Alex Schwazer under the bus a few years ago.
Like you say, he seems to be genuinly happy for his teammates, but I've never liked class clowns who need all eyes on themself.
 
I literally saw a video praising Femke Bol becoming the first person to win both the 400m flat and hurdles in the European Championships last year, and people going on in the comments that she only won the races because Sydney McLaughlin didn't turn up and McLaughlin would have won that same double if she wanted to and Bol is actually not really very good cos McLaughlin is faster than her and Muhammad beat her at the Olympics (notwithstanding that Bol is a decade younger than Muhammad and has beaten her pretty much every time they've met since).

Somebody pointed out that while McLaughlin might be a better runner, she would also not have been able to win that double if she wanted to since it was a unique achievement in the history of the European Championships. The poster even doubled down and had to be reminded that McLaughlin's PBs or form were irrelevant simply because the USA is kind of not in Europe.
Its not fair that the USA isn't included in the European Championships! :p
 
I guess it has to do with him being almost too dominant in the Italian media and how he threw Alex Schwazer under the bus a few years ago.
Like you say, he seems to be genuinly happy for his teammates, but I've never liked class clowns who need all eyes on themself.
*Edit: Redacted as I thought this was the clinic.* But hey, I can understand not liking his antics, especially if it's constantly pushed in your face.
 
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It was a pretty surprising qualification for the women's hammer throw final yesterday.
Anita Włodarczyk and Brooke Anderson have made 25 of the 27 longest throws ever recorded, but neither made a successful throw. Włodarczyk hasn't failed to win a championship she's partcipated in since the 2011 World Championships, and Anderson became the third woman to make a throw longer than 80 metres earlier this year.

Włodarczyk is obviously not at her best anymore, but she has made throws this year that would have put her in to the final.


Nina Kennedy and Katie Moon had their own Tamberi/Barshim moment in the pole vault. I was happy that Kennedy didn't lose the gold, because Moon was very lucky, that she didn't push down the bar during her 4.90 clearance.
 
I guess it has to do with him being almost too dominant in the Italian media and how he threw Alex Schwazer under the bus a few years ago.
Like you say, he seems to be genuinly happy for his teammates, but I've never liked class clowns who need all eyes on themself.

I would have thought Schwazer threw himself under the proverbial bus... twice.

What did Tamberi do?
 
It was a pretty surprising qualification for the women's hammer throw final yesterday.
Anita Włodarczyk and Brooke Anderson have made 25 of the 27 longest throws ever recorded, but neither made a successful throw. Włodarczyk hasn't failed to win a championship she's partcipated in since the 2011 World Championships, and Anderson became the third woman to make a throw longer than 80 metres earlier this year.

Włodarczyk is obviously not at her best anymore, but she has made throws this year that would have put her in to the final.


Nina Kennedy and Katie Moon had their own Tamberi/Barshim moment in the pole vault. I was happy that Kennedy didn't lose the gold, because Moon was very lucky, that she didn't push down the bar during her 4.90 clearance.

Włodarczyk has won everything multiple times over.

GOAT status attained. Nothing more is needed! :laughing:
 
It was a pretty surprising qualification for the women's hammer throw final yesterday.
Anita Włodarczyk and Brooke Anderson have made 25 of the 27 longest throws ever recorded, but neither made a successful throw. Włodarczyk hasn't failed to win a championship she's partcipated in since the 2011 World Championships, and Anderson became the third woman to make a throw longer than 80 metres earlier this year.

Włodarczyk is obviously not at her best anymore, but she has made throws this year that would have put her in to the final.


Nina Kennedy and Katie Moon had their own Tamberi/Barshim moment in the pole vault. I was happy that Kennedy didn't lose the gold, because Moon was very lucky, that she didn't push down the bar during her 4.90 clearance.
Well, more importantly, the mighty heroine Wilma Murto got the bronze! She's really come on in leaps and bounds lately, and while she's still a little bit behind the very best, she's really likable and surprisingly emotional and expressive for the famously stone-faced nation of Finland, so I'm really pleased for her.

I just wonder with two high profile shared golds in succession whether IAAF may consider rule changes around this. I remember what a wholesome moment it was with Barshim and Tamberi at Tokyo only for Michael Johnson to immediately poo-poo it with the - completely reasonable - argument that of course they'd agree to share it, because it guarantees them a gold medal. If you're in joint 1st and you go to a jump-off, the only thing that you can do is lose out by being downgraded to silver. It kind of took the gloss off it, and for me it's hard not to feel - as you mention - that Kennedy vaulted better because of Moon's fortune on that clearance. But at the end of the day it's not ski jumping, style points don't come into it, so Moon cleared that height and competition continued, so that can't - and shouldn't - be taken away from her.

I'm a big fan of Murto, but nothing had me more nervous in these championships than the hurdles. With McLaughlin not in attendance this was Bol's big chance to achieve some medals at this level; she's absolutely cleaned up all the lower level stuff like the DL, continental tours, indoor Worlds and the European Championships, but hadn't been able to get a World or Olympic title because despite now being the second fastest hurdler of all time she had the misfortune to appear at the same time as the fastest, so lots of weaker athletes relative to field than she is have had a far stronger palmarès at the World level because of competing in an era where they weren't going against the strongest athlete in the discipline of all time. Plus of course McLaughlin almost never races and even when she does it's only ever outside the USA at championships, so we hardly ever get to see her and experience her performance first-hand so she's a lot harder to build a connection to and support for for those of us outside the US.

I know she was always likely to win at a canter, and indeed she did, but after tying up in the last 100m and then the catastrophic fall in the Mixed Relay I just had that nagging doubt. I've cheered for people like Heidi Weng and Emma Johansson over the years, I know how to suffer.
 
Italy has a legit chance of gettin a medal in tthe men's 4x100m relay. Tortu seems to be much faster in this format. Yeah, he really underperfomed in the 200m, but he's always a slow starter with rather meh cornering technique who makes up for it with his topspeed on the finishing straight, so final man in the relay is actually a good job for him. He could probably work more on his weaknesses if he didn't insist on being coached by one his his parents (his father), but that has been and still is a problem with many Italian track and field athletes.
At least Iapichino's mother is freaking Fiona May, in that case there's nothing wrong with being coached by her.