The Best Educated, Most Steadfast Cheerleaders

[fmk_RoI]

David Walsh, in the USPS years:

"If we don't stand up for the guy playing by the rules who is being screwed for playing by the rules we shouldn't exist, as it is our only true purpose. By and large, the American journalists who covered this year's Tour have been the best educated, most steadfast cheerleaders who ever set foot from one country to another."

Who are today's most steadfast cheerleaders?

 

[dolophonic]

the Telegraph cycling podcast are pretty bogus.. everything is all good to them.

 

[Saint Unix]

Literally the first two words in this thread. That's the answer.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Re:

the Telegraph cycling podcast are pretty bogus.. everything is all good to them.

I'd put the Cycling Podcast as being more smug, more cliquey, than cheerleading. But I don't listen to it that often so could be missing the worst excesses.

 

[fmk_RoI]

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Literally the first two words in this thread. That's the answer.

Well, obvs, that's the irony of the quote. But I do think there are others topping his performances.

 

[fmk_RoI]

The current Queen of the cheerleaders, IMHO: link. There's been some amazingly arse lickin' Tweets throught this Tour, little begging letters to Sky saying 'please, please, please let me interview Froome, I can behave, look how much I can behave.'

 

[Bronstein]

William Fotheringham and Matthew Syed.

 

[SeriousSam]

Fotheringham is indeed insufferable

 

[Benotti69]

The Fortheringham's and Moore were always ready to lick boots.

 

[fmk_RoI]

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The Fortheringham's and Moore were always ready to lick boots.

Has anyone here tried Fotheringham's Festina book? Annoyed the hell out of me for its lack of insight and unwillingness to challenge the accepted facts.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Re:

William Fotheringham and Matthew Syed.

Matthew Syed really is appalling. I don't think the man has ever had an original thought, and those that he 'borrows' from others he somehow still manages to mess up. But I guess as a former ping pong player he knows how to stroke the right balls.

 

[Cannibal72]

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William Fotheringham and Matthew Syed.

Matthew Syed really is appalling. I don't think the man has ever had an original thought, and those that he 'borrows' from others he somehow still manages to mess up. But I guess as a former ping pong player he knows how to stroke the right balls.

Matthew Syed is full of Steve Peters-esque psuedoscience bollocks, so it's unsurprising he's a Sky fan.

 

[thehog]

David Walsh, in the USPS years:

"If we don't stand up for the guy playing by the rules who is being screwed for playing by the rules we shouldn't exist, as it is our only true purpose. By and large, the American journalists who covered this year's Tour have been the best educated, most steadfast cheerleaders who ever set foot from one country to another."

Who are today's most steadfast cheerleaders?

Very good, Walsh, at his best

 

[simoni]

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the Telegraph cycling podcast are pretty bogus.. everything is all good to them.

I'd put the Cycling Podcast as being more smug, more cliquey, than cheerleading. But I don't listen to it that often so could be missing the worst excesses.

If one's personal view is that doping is the only story in town then the Cycling Podcast probably isn't going to be for you but its not a subject that's ignored.

 

[fmk_RoI]

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If one's personal view is that doping is the only story in town then the Cycling Podcast probably isn't going to be for you but its not a subject that's ignored.

Like I said, it's more the smugness/cliqueness of the cast's lil boys' club that bugs me. There's a time and a place for doping talk and I've done enough of it to know it's not all the time and everywhere.

 

[fmk_RoI]

More from VN's Froome love in

 

[luckyboy]

Can't say I've noticed Hood much this Tour if I'm honest, but those begging tweets would be interesting to see

Anyway, in the spirit of the thread (not a shocker) - https://twitter.com/gallagherbren/status/757326507983462400

 

[ontheroad]

I thought I was done posting in here for a while but reading Matthew Syed's articles over the last couple of days are just sickening. Bad enough the gushing praise over Froome whilst completely ignoring the elephant in the room and the question that most rational people are asking (whether you believe him to be clean or not). Now I know he works for Murdoch but his latest condescending pop at Ross Tucker (South African blogger) is embarrassing. Tucker is always extremely rational in his commentary and rarely offensive so for him to have a pop just shows how brash and arrogant the support network around the sky PR machine have become. They must believe that the story is infallible to hit back in the manner they have in the last few days. It is noticeable that little of this aggressive commentary was made while they were still in France but rather when they are back on UK home soil. To answer the thread question though, Matthew Syed.

 

[luckyboy]

Yeah that was garbage

 

[Saint Unix]

Matthew Syed deservedly getting torn to shreds on Twitter at the moment. Expect the Sky block button to get worn to the nub in the coming hours.

 

[Benotti69]

Re:

Can't say I've noticed Hood much this Tour if I'm honest, but those begging tweets would be interesting to see

Anyway, in the spirit of the thread (not a shocker) - https://twitter.com/gallagherbren/status/757326507983462400

Gallagher was not a fan early days, but then performed a complete u-turn and became a fanboy.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Matthew Syed is really desperate get his OBN: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/if-team-sky-are-doping-where-are-the-whistleblowers-vdqzmvxzw?shareToken=1aeadf4a44648976e85dec2c79ad1a8d

His use of the Bertrand Russell quote about theft is amusing given his own ... uuum ... er... borrowings.

 

[fmk_RoI]

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Gallagher was not a fan early days, but then performed a complete u-turn and became a fanboy.

Gallagher was Wiggins's ghost and has never abandoned his pom-poms.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Re:

Anyway, in the spirit of the thread (not a shocker) - https://twitter.com/gallagherbren/status/757326507983462400

Thank God I missed that one, I would have vomited.

As I've said elsewhere, there's a certain class of Sky fanboys with typewriters that are as graceless in victory as they are in defeat.

 

[fmk_RoI]

This comment abt Syed posted on Redditjust about sums him up to a tee

He's one of the archetypal examples of a scourge of English journalism: the nice middle-class boy who is basically a full-of-*** idiot about everything.