The Better Overall Rider, Nibali or S.Sanchez?

[Miburo]

Oh yeah, let's go

 

[The Hitch]

Its been done before

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=15817

 

[El Pistolero]

Nibali.

........

 

[Netserk]

At present: Nibali

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Nibbles is my guess

 

[Miburo]

Its been done before

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=15817

Oh well shouldn't be surprised but I think it's maybe good to do it again. I think some people might have changed their opinion based on this year.

 

[The Hitch]

Oh well shouldn't be surprised but I think it's maybe good to do it again. I think some people might have changed their opinion based on this year.

It wont mean anything since it will all be based on wild guess work of what samus form is like.

Like Canc 2 injuries ruined his season so we havent seen him on top form in 1 and a half years.

Is he going to suck now that he turns 35? Probably, but its pure guesswork.

 

[El Pistolero]

It wont mean anything since it will all be based on wild guess work of what samus form is like.

Like Canc 2 injuries ruined his season so we havent seen him on top form in 1 and a half years.

Is he going to suck now that he turns 35? Probably, but its pure guesswork.

Cancellara had no injuries in 2011 yet didn't win a classic or a big time trial.

It's really not hard:

- Podiumed all 3 GTs: Nibali
- Podiumed 2 different type of Monuments: Nibali
- Won a WT stage race: Nibali and Samu
- Won a GT: Nibali
- Won an event comparable to a Monument: Samu(Olympics)
- Won a WT one day race: Nibali and Samu (GP Quest France, Zürich-Metzgete)

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Nibali takes it.

 

[The Hitch]

Cancellara had no injuries in 2011 yet didn't win a classic or a big time trial.

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Wtf has this got to do with anything?

t's really not hard:

this doesnt ask who has the better palmares but who is the better rider.

the 2 are not the same question. For example Nibali has a better palmares than Schleck but Schleck clearly is the better rider.

Oh and olympics is way bigger than a monument btw.

 

[Miburo]

It wont mean anything since it will all be based on wild guess work of what samus form is like.

Like Canc 2 injuries ruined his season so we havent seen him on top form in 1 and a half years.

Is he going to suck now that he turns 35? Probably, but its pure guesswork.

It's about people their opinion and it's interesting to see how it changed after this year. But anyways I didn't know there was a thread otherwise I wouldn't have made it so yeah

 

[El Pistolero]

Wtf has this got to do with anything?



this doesnt ask who has the better palmares but who is the better rider.

the 2 are not the same question. For example Nibali has a better palmares than Schleck but Schleck clearly is the better rider.

Oh and olympics is way bigger than a monument btw.

Just because you compete for the glory of your country and the title of Sir?

I just look at who's there and the field is comparable to a Monument. Not that Alexander Kristoff will podium a Monument any time soon.

If anything it should be worth less because it's heavily depended on which country you live in. If you're a good cyclist you can at least get a good team around you in Monuments. But if you're from a country like Slovakia you're pretty much screwed for an Olympic or WC event.

So Nibali is 6 years younger and already has a better palmares? I think that settles who the best all-round rider is.

 

[The Hitch]

So Nibali is 6 years younger and already has a better palmares? I think that settles who the best all-round rider is.

different riders peak at differnet times. I have no doubt Nibali will eventually be a better rider than samu ever was but that is not the question.

 

[woodenswan]

Wtf has this got to do with anything?



Nibali has a better palmares than Schleck but Schleck clearly is the better rider.

time will tell, but i'll go with Nibali.
Schleck is the better climber, no doubt about that, but Nibali is competitive in a huge variety of races, and far more consistent throughout a season

a poll perhaps?

 

[theyoungest]

time will tell, but i'll go with Nibali.
Schleck is the better climber, no doubt about that, but Nibali is competitive in a huge variety of races, and far more consistent throughout a season

a poll perhaps?

I'd go with who's better at peak form. And that's clearly Schleck. Even in a time trial (in a GT) they're somewhat equal.

 

[El Pistolero]

I'd go with who's better at peak form. And that's clearly Schleck. Even in a time trial (in a GT) they're somewhat equal.

The question isn't who's the most talented, that is clearly Andy Schleck, but about who's the best overall rider.

 

[Der Effe]

I accidentally voted Sanchez. Meant to go for Nibali...

 

[Parrulo]

I'd go with who's better at peak form. And that's clearly Schleck. Even in a time trial (in a GT) they're somewhat equal.

nibali clearly improved his time trial this year. can we say the same about andy schleck?

anyway on topic, obviously nibali. he is younger, already has the better palmares and is still improving. sanchez is most likely over the hill and i highly doubt he will win anything really big(monument or GT) on his career ever again.

 

[woodenswan]

The question isn't who's the most talented, that is clearly Andy Schleck, but about who's the best overall rider.

exactly

definition of overall: in view of all the circumstances or conditions; with everyone or everything taken into account

talent and peak form, those are just some of the factors

Even in a time trial (in a GT) they're somewhat equal.

Nibali has shown signs of improvement in that department.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

samu in every possible way he is better. sprinter, itt, climbing, classics, bigger engine. only downhil samu's skills have depleted, but nibali is nothing exceptional either

 

[Froome19]

I assume you are asking about Sanchez at his peak because currently there is no basis for an equal comparison?

 

[ElChingon]

Revisiting last years polls is great, things change quite fast so its good to recount the last years battles in a poll

Nibs by a land slide! Sammy had a dreadful year so figures he'd lost out this year.

We also get to see who jumps ship after this year and who's still on the bandwagon

 

[Afrank]

Nibs, but hopefully Samu will have recovered from this years injuries and be able to challenge in the Giro and Vuelta. Next poll...

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Sanchez. like duh

 

[Alphabet]

I'd say Nibali. I think he is a better cyclist all-round.