I'll start posting some of the more extreme examples of Botlogic in this thread from the comments section, it should great fodder to chew through.
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Blaise Pascal said:When we wish to correct with advantage, and to show another that he errs, we must notice from what side he views the matter, for on that side it is usually true, and admit that truth to him, but reveal to him the side on which it is false. He is satisfied with that, for he sees that he was not mistaken, and that he only failed to see all sides. Now, no one is offended at not seeing everything; but one does not like to be mistaken, and that perhaps arises from the fact that man naturally cannot see everything, and that naturally he cannot err in the side he looks at, since the perceptions of our senses are always true.
yaco said:As a matter of policy should material from the 'comments section' be printed in this part of the forum ? Surely they should be two discrete parts of CN.
What policy and whyyaco said:As a matter of policy should material from the 'comments section' be printed in this part of the forum ? Surely they should be two discrete parts of CN.
If there is a policy, I've never seen it and I've spent lots of time reviewing Immediate Media's Terms & Conditions and I know the forum rules intimately as I've written some of them. The website and forum are not separate entities, the forum is a section within the website. All content posted in both places are subject to the same terms and conditions but the forum has a set of supplemental rules that do not supercede the websites terms and conditions.yaco said:As a matter of policy should material from the 'comments section' be printed in this part of the forum ? Surely they should be two discrete parts of CN.
Irondan said:If there is a policy, I've never seen it and I've spent lots of time reviewing Immediate Media's Terms & Conditions and I know the forum rules intimately as I've written some of them. The website and forum are not separate entities, the forum is a section within the website. All content posted in both places are subject to the same terms and conditions but the forum has a set of supplemental rules that do not supercede the websites terms and conditions.yaco said:As a matter of policy should material from the 'comments section' be printed in this part of the forum ? Surely they should be two discrete parts of CN.
You're asking if they should be separated but you haven't given a reason why?
I don't see the problem with it, they can come into the forum if they're not already banned.yaco said:Irondan said:If there is a policy, I've never seen it and I've spent lots of time reviewing Immediate Media's Terms & Conditions and I know the forum rules intimately as I've written some of them. The website and forum are not separate entities, the forum is a section within the website. All content posted in both places are subject to the same terms and conditions but the forum has a set of supplemental rules that do not supercede the websites terms and conditions.yaco said:As a matter of policy should material from the 'comments section' be printed in this part of the forum ? Surely they should be two discrete parts of CN.
You're asking if they should be separated but you haven't given a reason why?
I post on other forums operated by Immediate Media which have a policy of 'unofficially separating parts of a forum, especially if you are quoting posts from someone who is not a member of THIS forum, and therefore has no right of reply.
On a purely personal note it seems pointless to drag across posts from the comments section - Surely we have enough material to keep this part of the forum functioning.
I had lunch with Richie last week. I would be the last person a doper would want to hang out with.
I found him very open, direct, and confident. He was clearly very passionate about the sport and his team. I asked a lot of questions and he gave me very direct, non-evasive, answers. I have had the same discussion with dozens of riders over the years but few have been as direct as Richie.
thehog said:This was the greatest of all time #botlogic and it wasn't even a bot! just a pretend bot! :lol:
I had lunch with Richie last week. I would be the last person a doper would want to hang out with.
I found him very open, direct, and confident. He was clearly very passionate about the sport and his team. I asked a lot of questions and he gave me very direct, non-evasive, answers. I have had the same discussion with dozens of riders over the years but few have been as direct as Richie.
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Irondan said:I don't see the problem with it, they can come into the forum if they're not already banned.yaco said:Irondan said:If there is a policy, I've never seen it and I've spent lots of time reviewing Immediate Media's Terms & Conditions and I know the forum rules intimately as I've written some of them. The website and forum are not separate entities, the forum is a section within the website. All content posted in both places are subject to the same terms and conditions but the forum has a set of supplemental rules that do not supercede the websites terms and conditions.yaco said:As a matter of policy should material from the 'comments section' be printed in this part of the forum ? Surely they should be two discrete parts of CN.
You're asking if they should be separated but you haven't given a reason why?
I post on other forums operated by Immediate Media which have a policy of 'unofficially separating parts of a forum, especially if you are quoting posts from someone who is not a member of THIS forum, and therefore has no right of reply.
On a purely personal note it seems pointless to drag across posts from the comments section - Surely we have enough material to keep this part of the forum functioning.
I'll look into it to see if there's something that I missed, I hope you're not sending me on a wild goose chase...
Benotti69 said:thehog said:This was the greatest of all time #botlogic and it wasn't even a bot! just a pretend bot! :lol:
I had lunch with Richie last week. I would be the last person a doper would want to hang out with.
I found him very open, direct, and confident. He was clearly very passionate about the sport and his team. I asked a lot of questions and he gave me very direct, non-evasive, answers. I have had the same discussion with dozens of riders over the years but few have been as direct as Richie.
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Have noted the silence on Sky.
BYOP88 said:Benotti69 said:thehog said:This was the greatest of all time #botlogic and it wasn't even a bot! just a pretend bot! :lol:
I had lunch with Richie last week. I would be the last person a doper would want to hang out with.
I found him very open, direct, and confident. He was clearly very passionate about the sport and his team. I asked a lot of questions and he gave me very direct, non-evasive, answers. I have had the same discussion with dozens of riders over the years but few have been as direct as Richie.
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Have noted the silence on Sky.
Some people just wanted to get Armstrong.
thehog said:BYOP88 said:Benotti69 said:thehog said:This was the greatest of all time #botlogic and it wasn't even a bot! just a pretend bot! :lol:
I had lunch with Richie last week. I would be the last person a doper would want to hang out with.
I found him very open, direct, and confident. He was clearly very passionate about the sport and his team. I asked a lot of questions and he gave me very direct, non-evasive, answers. I have had the same discussion with dozens of riders over the years but few have been as direct as Richie.
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Have noted the silence on Sky.
Some people just wanted to get Armstrong.
Would you have lunch with Bradley?
this was unrealthehog said:This was the greatest of all time #botlogic and it wasn't even a bot! just a pretend bot! :lol:
I had lunch with Richie last week. I would be the last person a doper would want to hang out with.
I found him very open, direct, and confident. He was clearly very passionate about the sport and his team. I asked a lot of questions and he gave me very direct, non-evasive, answers. I have had the same discussion with dozens of riders over the years but few have been as direct as Richie.
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The way RR and Walsh went after Lance, whilst vouching for Lemond with precious bot logic (Walsh claimed Gregs illness was due to him riding clean; RR trolled the Lemond thread about EPO not existing in cycling before 1991 and claimed Lance offered people big money to spill on Lemond, a claim backed up only by Lemond) still makes me wonder.Digger said:this was unrealthehog said:This was the greatest of all time #botlogic and it wasn't even a bot! just a pretend bot! :lol:
I had lunch with Richie last week. I would be the last person a doper would want to hang out with.
I found him very open, direct, and confident. He was clearly very passionate about the sport and his team. I asked a lot of questions and he gave me very direct, non-evasive, answers. I have had the same discussion with dozens of riders over the years but few have been as direct as Richie.
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Because Porte was going to start talking sky doping programs there and then
The silence on sky since then has said it all
some people clearly tweet according to who follows them...if sky riders are following you then sky are safe....in his planet.
When are you claiming this happened, before he was a mod of after?sniper said:The way RR and Walsh went after Lance, whilst vouching for Lemond with precious bot logic (Walsh claimed Gregs illness was due to him riding clean; RR trolled the Lemond thread about EPO not existing in cycling before 1991 and claimed Lance offered people big money to spill on Lemond, a claim backed up only by Lemond) still makes me wonder.Digger said:this was unrealthehog said:This was the greatest of all time #botlogic and it wasn't even a bot! just a pretend bot! :lol:
I had lunch with Richie last week. I would be the last person a doper would want to hang out with.
I found him very open, direct, and confident. He was clearly very passionate about the sport and his team. I asked a lot of questions and he gave me very direct, non-evasive, answers. I have had the same discussion with dozens of riders over the years but few have been as direct as Richie.
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Because Porte was going to start talking sky doping programs there and then
The silence on sky since then has said it all
some people clearly tweet according to who follows them...if sky riders are following you then sky are safe....in his planet.
The poster Maxiton (who got chased out of this forum for daring to question Lemond) once proposed Walsh & RR got paid by Greg to go after Lance.
I'm not convinced that happened, but it would explain a thing or two about a thing or two.
But there should be an acknowledgement that elite sport has more in common with the military than the sport you or I play
The part about maxiton getting 'chased out' over that claim. Did this happen before or after he was a mod? He's been a member for a long time, long before me so I don't know what happened before my time but I do know why he left this last time, which would have been after he was a mod and it wasn't because he made a claim that LA offered up big money to spill the beans on Lemond.sniper said:sorry which part of the bolded?
Max getting chased out? That's not my claim, just what I've been told. Not much more to say about it tbh. Matter of perspective no doubt.
Fwiw, I loved his contributions, intelligent, funny and amical, really miss him.
Max, be good.
I didn't say over that particular claim. But thanks for expanding. Fair enough of course.Irondan said:The part about maxiton getting 'chased out' over that claim. Did this happen before or after he was a mod? He's been a member for a long time, long before me so I don't know what happened before my time but I do know why he left this last time, which would have been after he was a mod and it wasn't because he made a claim that LA offered up big money to spill the beans on Lemond.
Which reminds me of another poster who's gone missing, doperhopper who aptly proposed to retitle The Climb as Mein Climb.Sport is like the military, apparently
sniper said:I didn't say over that particular claim. But thanks for expanding. Fair enough of course.Irondan said:The part about maxiton getting 'chased out' over that claim. Did this happen before or after he was a mod? He's been a member for a long time, long before me so I don't know what happened before my time but I do know why he left this last time, which would have been after he was a mod and it wasn't because he made a claim that LA offered up big money to spill the beans on Lemond.
Which reminds me of another poster who's gone missing, the Sceptic, who aptly proposed to retitle The Climb as Mein Climb.Sport is like the military, apparently
:lol:
Fine sniper, but you're avoiding the question that I asked. It was a simple question, I'm not sure why you can't answer it...sniper said:Snipped...
The poster Maxiton (who got chased out of this forum for daring to question Lemond) once proposed Walsh & RR got paid by Greg to go after Lance.