The Climb (Froome's first autobiography)

[Franklin]

Where everyone saw the ghost of Lance Armstrong etched in the features of Wiggins when he uttered his 'bone idle' soliquoy were perhaps looking in the wrong place.

Oh get of it

We hear the ghost of Lance in Wiggo's praise for that magnificent character.

Nobody said the characters of them were anywhere near alike. But what is the same is the message: "Never tested positive, so don't judge me".

And no, Chris is not like Lance in character. Chris is unhinged, Lance is a sociopath.

 

[JimmyFingers]

Oh get of it

We hear the ghost of Lance in Wiggo's praise for that magnificent character.

Nobody said the characters of them were anywhere near alike. But what is the same is the message: "Never tested positive, so don't judge me".

And no, Chris is not like Lance in character. Chris is unhinged, Lance is a sociopath.

To be fair, many of you see the ghost of Lance absolutely everywhere

 

[the sceptic]

Weird isn't it, this softly spoken, seemingly quite humble man, a 'nice guy' interviews, suddenly is coming across and pathological and arrogant. Where everyone saw the ghost of Lance Armstrong etched in the features of Wiggins when he uttered his 'bone idle' soliquoy were perhaps looking in the wrong place. The book seems to scream entitlement, and casts other people as pawns in Froome's inevitable 'climb' to the top.

Mind you I'm going on the snippets and summaries I am reading, I have no desire to line Froome's pocket by buying it.

Anyone else get the vibe he just wants to be Brad's friend? 'Brad' is mentioned 377 times in the book, according to INRG, an average of once a page, which given a third of the book is about his childhood in Africa. The hacking of emails sounds unsavoury and very ruthless.

I guess if its a case of picking between Wiggins and Froome, I'll be a good Brit and go with Wiggins. I never warmed to Froome, never enjoyed his personality or riding style. That's not to say I think he's a doper, but I'm certainly not going to be supporting him in future.

phew, was starting to get worried there for a second.

 

[Franklin]

What was the Basso passage? How far back on the thread?

Page 24.

To be fair, many of you see the ghost of Lance absolutely everywhere

Now that would work if it wasn't Wiggo himself fawning over Lance.

It's not the critics that make this up. Wiggo literally said "I love him". So he certainly evoked that ghost himself, there's no need to stretch anything.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

To be fair, many of you see the ghost of Lance absolutely everywhere

You can do better Jimmy.

There was cycling before Lance, Jimmy. Really. Bugno for instance. Indurain, nice guys, just were dopers.

 

[JimmyFingers]

You can do better Jimmy.

There was cycling before Lance, Jimmy. Really. Bugno for instance. Indurain, nice guys, just were dopers.

I know, forgive me, it's a very long day

 

[red_flanders]

To be fair, many of you see the ghost of Lance absolutely everywhere

You say things like this and wonder why people think you have an agenda. What you (apparently) more recent fans of the sport fail to realize is that we saw/said the same of Lance and many others before him, long before they were finally completely exposed.

 

[The Hitch]

It's not the critics that make this up. Wiggo literally said "I love him". So he certainly evoked that ghost himself, there's no need to stretch anything.

Hillariously, the poster quoted from velorooms actually told me I had made the quotes up when I requoted to him Wiggo's comments on Lance.

 

[ianbussey]

From hearing of his exploits, he comes across as a spoilt entitled brat. Does the book detail his childhood? I bet he was a right little ****, a snide one who'd kick another kid, and when he got kicked back, go running crying to teacher or mummy and get the other kid in trouble.

He just strikes me as someone so self unaware, he has this great level of importance and entitlement for himself, like he thinks he is superior, oooh he has got such a punchable face and demeanour

 

[mewmewmew13]

Appologies, I am having weird parsing erors where half my posts goes into the great nether.

I hear others having issues as well...

 

[mewmewmew13]

I must say, as a newish poster, that what I have seen here I find ugly and not nice.
So Froome releases a book that may well be not that well written. From what I see the only person on here who has bought it (and quoted it) is Hog. Following from that is much speculation & (I have to say) poisonous comment and diatribe. Yes this is a forum and discussion / debate is expected / wanted but some of the comments here just show that people have made their mind up whatever and seem to relish in basically treating him and MC badly. Yes, I will agree that MC needs to calm down on Twitter, etc. but c

 

[mewmewmew13]

including me!
posting not working...it is deleting huge chunks !

 

[adamfo]

Also it shows froome has no understanding of training....

Froome seems to think that it he can tell stories which make him out to train more than anyone that would explain his wins, as if the person who wins the tour is always the guy who trained the most.

That's a non Sequitur.

Don't you ever tire of using fallacious arguments ?

 

[adamfo]

The book is trash

You sound like Mary Whitehouse. Condemns a book as 'filth' but wont read it because it's filth.

 

[Granville57]

Appologies, I am having weird parsing erors where half my posts goes into the great nether.

The forum is a mess right now. I've tried several times to post a particular response in this thread but it keeps getting cut in half when I try to submit it.

 

[purcell]

............

I don't know what is going on with the forum, but I did not post the ^above. Says my username, but i didn't post it.

 

[thehog]

Weird isn't it, this softly spoken, seemingly quite humble man, a 'nice guy' interviews, suddenly is coming across and pathological and arrogant. Where everyone saw the ghost of Lance Armstrong etched in the features of Wiggins when he uttered his 'bone idle' soliquoy were perhaps looking in the wrong place. The book seems to scream entitlement, and casts other people as pawns in Froome's inevitable 'climb' to the top.

Mind you I'm going on the snippets and summaries I am reading, I have no desire to line Froome's pocket by buying it.

Anyone else get the vibe he just wants to be Brad's friend? 'Brad' is mentioned 377 times in the book, according to INRG, an average of once a page, which given a third of the book is about his childhood in Africa. The hacking of emails sounds unsavoury and very ruthless.

I guess if its a case of picking between Wiggins and Froome, I'll be a good Brit and go with Wiggins. I never warmed to Froome, never enjoyed his personality or riding style. That's not to say I think he's a doper, but I'm certainly not going to be supporting him in future.

Agree with all of this. I think Froome struggles that he can't be jack the lad.

He does appears obsessed with him but at the same time he's cut Wiggins out of everything. Impressive considering Wiggo won the Tour and all sudden he can't even make the team!

Someone payout wiggos contract and Sky and get him at the Tour next month sigh GreenEdge.

 

[Afrank]

I don't know what is going on with the forum, but I did not post the ^above. Says my username, but i didn't post it.

Were you trying to quote that post?

 

[mewmewmew13]

The forum is a mess right now. I've tried several times to post a particular response in this thread but it keeps getting cut in half when I try to submit it.

This

I had to give up
it seems to happen when quoting..

 

[purcell]

Were you trying to quote that post?

Yes, I was.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Yes, I was.

Well there's your problem

 

[thehog]

I have to check again but he fuses the brother and UCI stories together. There's something about the UCI blood testing center being right nevt door to Dr. Badzhilla in Kenya.

What are the odds of that!!?

...............

So I'm not sure how all that works.

And didn't he say the UCI found it during a passport test?

The World Anti-Doping Agency is unable to conduct blood tests for doping in East Africa, a situation that some observers fear enables systematic use of performance-enhancing drugs, The Telegraph reports.

"The reality is that the anti-doping organizations that do conduct testing in Kenya – including the [International Association of Athletics Federations] and WADA’s Regional Anti-Doping Organization Africa Zone V – only test for urine," a WADA statement to The Telegraph reads. "The IAAF chooses to take blood samples from Kenyan athletes when they are either competing or training abroad."

WADA told The Telegraph it doesn't conduct blood tests in popular training spots like Iten, Kenya, because of the cost and logistics of getting blood samples from remote locations to testing centers. The area not subject to blood tests encompasses not just Kenya, but also East African distance-running powers such as Ethiopia, Eritrea and Tanzania. WADA's urine tests for the continent are performed in South Africa.

 

[Afrank]

Yep, quoting is messing up it seems. I'm sure the CN IT guys are on it.

 

[thehog]

Yep, quoting is messing up it seems. I'm sure the CN IT guys are on it.

When I quote myself and say 'good post' it works...

 

[purcell]

Well it's most disturbing. It's ruining the flow of an otherwise perfectly good ridiculing beat down on the imagined works of the most ego-centric little twit in the sport.