Teams & Riders The Great Big Cycling Transfers, Extensions, and Rumours Thread

[RedheadDane]

And think most of the bit elder generation clearly remember Søren Pedersen, too.

Well, unlike what some people around here will claim, I am in fact very young!

It's possible I might have heard his name, but just as "some guy working behind the scenes" not "prominent former rider".

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Well, unlike what some people around here will claim, I am in fact very young!

It's possible I might have heard his name, but just as "some guy working behind the scenes" not "prominent former rider".

Ah yes! NOW is the time where you should really grab out and cherish the title "the younger one"
He surely first of all was a prominent rider through several decades.

 

[RedheadDane]

He surely first of all was a prominent rider through several decades.

60es, 70es, and 80es?
I think even back in those days, there were still Danish riders who got results on the international scene.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I remember Søren Pedersen. He was a solid right back for Randers FC for years.

 

[xo 1]

Out with the old in with the .... well even older if the extend G's contract, but part of the problem is obviously at 38 he is still their best stage racer, kinda.

That sounds grim, but I'm not sure G wouldn't be the best stage racer on every squad other than JV, UAE, and SQS, right? We can argue about Bora, but I'd take G for Movistar, EF, et al. (I don't know how to bet on Carlos Rodriguez's destination.)

But to your larger point, it is stunning how decisively INEOS has moved on from all but a few domestiques and their youngest potential stage racers. (I still can't see how letting Ben Tulett leave fits whatever plan they have.)

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

60es, 70es, and 80es?
I think even back in those days, there were still Danish riders who got results on the international scene.

Those were the tiny few speaking road cycling, in contrast to the talent mass, who ran aground on lack of money and the right connections to take the adventure to the big classic cycling nations. It had been a different story with today's agents and today's money within the sport. As comparison the track riders in the classic track disciplines enjoyed more international recognition - as amateurism was (and to some extend still is) a bigger part globally here.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

I remember Søren Pedersen. He was a solid right back for Randers FC for years.

Heh, for a time lived close to this other Søren Pedersen's home (before he lived there), and in fact participated as a junior invitational together with the former Randers Freja junior boys, when before living just next to the training grounds. And yes, as of today the other Søren P. with at least as strong legs is more recognizable by the name.

Oooh waiy....I'm stupid...confused the Peder Pedersen with legend Benny Pedersen. Benny's son Søren. Both from Skive.
But both Peder and Benny more reknown than both Søren's with the cycling-Søren maybe least known by now.
And now I got totally lost of which thread I'm actually in

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Heh, for a time lived close to this other Søren Pedersen's home (before he lived there), and in fact participated as a junior invitational together with the former Randers Freja junior boys, when before living just next to the training grounds. And yes, as of today the other Søren P. with at least as strong legs is more recognizable by the name.

Oooh waiy....I'm stupid...confused the Peder Pedersen with legend Benny Pedersen. Benny's son Søren. Both from Skive.
But both Peder and Benny more reknown than both Søren's with the cycling-Søren maybe least known by now.
And now I got totally lost of which thread I'm actually in

Well I guess RhD was right, when she said there were too many Pedersens around

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Didn't he win Gold in the team pursuit with Denmark?

Yes, Peder did.
But my memory played tricks with me, it was Benny who was on my mind

Now, think I owe some on-topic stuff.

The continous Landa discussion is taking toll.
I'm just waiting for a Vingo-Rogla Angliru '20 situation, Landa accidentially unloading Remco behind through a soft sneeze on the steep part.

 

[tobydawq]

I can clearly imagine Egoi still shadow training behind the scenes
And not totally sure about the latter, though only stray thoughts of possibilities via various family dynasties through cycling history. At least I clearly remember a direct father-son apperance for a couple of seasons in Danish A-Class in the form of Peder Pedersen and Søren Pedersen

I'm pretty sure Egoi is Skjelmose's agent.

But he can't choose a champion, he has to do his own battles!

 

[tobydawq]

Wow. Is remco ready to be a loyal gregario though.?

I think he will leave the team. He respects you too much to let the Masnada/Landa duopoly happen.

 

[RedheadDane]

I think he will leave the team. He respects you too much to let the Masnada/Landa duopoly happen.

Maybe Masnada will leave the team... #FreeFausto!

Yes, I know he's contracted for next year, but so is Evenepoel.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

I think he will leave the team. He respects you too much to let the Masnada/Landa duopoly happen.

Honestly man I would love it because at the moment it seems all my favourite rider work for remco, I half expect Nibali to come back from retirement to work for remco in Tour de france next year. 2021 me wouldn't be able to compute masnada and landa fetching bottles for Belgian spilak

Let's see what happens. The way lefevre has behaved is very weird. Not a good idea to annoy remco when a better and richer team is looking for a leader

 

[Salvarani]

Honestly man I would love it because at the moment it seems all my favourite rider work for remco, I half expect Nibali to come back from retirement to work for remco in Tour de france next year. 2021 me wouldn't be able to compute masnada and landa fetching bottles for Belgian spilak

Let's see what happens. The way lefevre has behaved is very weird. Not a good idea to annoy remco when a better and richer team is looking for a leader

Friends close, enemies closer aye?

Scenes when Landa yet again shows he is stronger than his leader in the high mountains and drops him. Finishing on the podium. Masnada going into breakaways, winning two stages and the KOM jersey. #Tour2024

 

[Bolder]

Friends close, enemies closer aye?

Scenes when Landa yet again shows he is stronger than his leader in the high mountains and drops him. Finishing on the podium. Masnada going into breakaways, winning two stages and the KOM jersey. #Tour2024

I could easily see a mountain situation where Landa is stronger than Remco. Problem is most stage races have TTs. But he's been a good dom in the Sky years so if QS wants him to do that in the Tour, I'm sure he will.

That said, I have always loved Landa and wished, just once, that everything would come together and he'd win a GT. I was gutted when he crashed out of the Giro in 2020 (??), when Dombrowski hit that bollard on a flat run in. I hope going to QS is a net positive for him.

 

[Bolder]

Martinez joins Bora is now official

Man, he did NOT develop the way I thought he would. After shepherding Bernal to a Giro win I thought he'd be Vuelta podium material, at least. He just seemed to have some upside but it's mostly been flat (with illness bad luck etc) or a step back at Ineos. Maybe EF Dani was the best Dani. (or Daniel Martin's retirement was no coincidence and he stole Dani's mojo.)

 

[DNP-Old]

UAE won't rest until they've ruined the game: Oscar Chambo to join. Will go to their new development team first.

 

[Samamba]

UAE won't rest until they've ruined the game: Oscar Chambo to join. Will go to their new development team first.

RIP AG2R. Basically already signed with them, just to get stolen last minute.

Also Duarte Marivoet probably btw (not signed yet, but they're in poleposition).

Before you know it top 10 best juniors every year all sign with UAE, Jumbo or Ineos (if they finally realize they need a devo team). Here and there maybe a Belgian guy to Lotto/QS/Alpecin, a French guy to one of the French teams and a Norwegian guy to UNO X.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Friends close, enemies closer aye?

Scenes when Landa yet again shows he is stronger than his leader in the high mountains and drops him. Finishing on the podium. Masnada going into breakaways, winning two stages and the KOM jersey. #Tour2024

Tour of the Basque Country?

 

[Samamba]

Oldani to be Consonni's replacement at Cofidis.

Is he planning on changing teams every 2 years. Doesn't seem to be happy anywhere. On the other hand, he could do his own thing at Cofidis probably.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Walscheid is a good signing for Jayco Alula - He can add punch to their poor cobbled classics squad.

This, also potential monster leadouts for Groenewegen from mister "+1300W for 255 sec at the end of an actual race already in the u23 ranks".

Much better signing that Consonni for Trek. Both Pedersen and Milan can get over hills and 60kg Consonni is just too small to be a leadout men, when things get physical they can just push him away with their shoulders. Leadout Consonni didn't work at UAE for Gaviria and it's not gonna work much better now. Maybe if they use him earlier in the train before the leadout man, but it seems like they just went with "let's sign another Italian TP guy who can sprint as a leadout man for Milan" without considering that Milan is so much bigger, gets very little draft from such a little guy and that being a leadout man can be a bit of a contact sport.

 

[Samamba]

This, also potential monster leadouts for Groenewegen from mister "+1300W for 255 sec at the end of an actual race already in the u23 ranks".

Much better signing that Consonni for Trek. Both Pedersen and Milan can get over hills and 60kg Consonni is just too small to be a leadout men, when things get physical they can just push him away with their shoulders. Leadout Consonni didn't work at UAE for Gaviria and it's not gonna work much better now. Maybe if they use him earlier in the train before the leadout man, but it seems like they just went with "let's sign another Italian TP guy who can sprint as a leadout man for Milan" without considering that Milan is so much bigger, gets very little draft from such a little guy and that being a leadout man can be a bit of a contact sport.

I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out the most underrated transfer of this season. Still don't understand why top sprinterteams like Lotto and QS didn't go for him in the past. He has everything to be a top tier leadout. He's always in good position because he can put out so many watts for a pretty long time and no one can shoulderbarge him without getting thrown into the barriers themselves, he just doesn't have the topspeed/top 10s watts to actually win sprints.

That being said, he does fade pretty soon in GTs, and has throuble getting over bridges.

 

[Mayomaniac]

I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out the most underrated transfer of this season. Still don't understand why top sprinterteams like Lotto and QS didn't go for him in the past. He has everything to be a top tier leadout. He's always in good position because he can put out so many watts for a pretty long time and no one can shoulderbarge him without getting thrown into the barriers themselves, he just doesn't have the topspeed/top 10s watts to actually win sprints.

This, the guy is a teamplayer on the cobbles and a potential world class leadout man. Also a good asset to potentially have in a TTT because of his high numbers and solid TT-skills.

 

[Samamba]

This, the guy is a teamplayer on the cobbles and a potential world class leadout man. Also a good asset to potentially have in a TTT because of his high numbers and solid TT-skills.

Something I didn't thought of immediately is indeed his TT skills that suddenly disappeared at Cofidis. At Jayco he will have a good setup again.

 

[postmanhat]

Man, he did NOT develop the way I thought he would. After shepherding Bernal to a Giro win I thought he'd be Vuelta podium material, at least. He just seemed to have some upside but it's mostly been flat (with illness bad luck etc) or a step back at Ineos. Maybe EF Dani was the best Dani. (or Daniel Martin's retirement was no coincidence and he stole Dani's mojo.)

He had by far his most successful season at Ineos last year, where he finally learned to descend. Anything that's happened this year is just down to him or bad luck.