Teams & Riders The Great Big Cycling Transfers, Extensions, and Rumours Thread

[RedheadDane]

Wrong thread, doh!

Long night?

 

[Roku]

Pernsteiner has finally signed for Felt Felbrmayr instead of Ukyo, as well as Sebastian Schoenberger.

That's a pretty deep team for a Conti, with Pernsteiner, Schoeni, Kukrle, Brozyna, Stosz, Heidemann

With a couple of extra riders they could very well have been a PCT already this year.

The highest profile riders without an known destination at the moment:
Odd Eiking
Domenico Pozzovivo (Corratec if they are invited to Giro?)
Edvald Boasson Hagen
Lukas Postlberger
Jens Reynders
Amanuel Ghebreizhabier
Merhawi Kudus
Joe Dombrowski
James Fouche

 

[Squire]

Pernsteiner has finally signed for Felt Felbrmayr instead of Ukyo, as well as Sebastian Schoenberger.

That's a pretty deep team for a Conti, with Pernsteiner, Schoeni, Kukrle, Brozyna, Stosz, Heidemann

With a couple of extra riders they could very well have been a PCT already this year.

The highest profile riders without an known destination at the moment:
Odd Eiking
Domenico Pozzovivo (Corratec if they are invited to Giro?)
Edvald Boasson Hagen
Lukas Postlberger
Jens Reynders
Amanuel Ghebreizhabier
Merhawi Kudus
Joe Dombrowski
James Fouche

Don't make me redo my CQ team!

Are they aiming for Pro Conti eventually?

 

[Roku]

Don't make me redo my CQ team!

Are they aiming for Pro Conti eventually?

Allegedly so - for 2025 (as well as Ukyo and Global 6 cycling, among others)

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Do the UCI have a ceiling on the number of PCTs?

Is there any qualification criteria other than the minimum salary?

 

[Roku]

Do the UCI have a ceiling on the number of PCTs?

Is there any qualification criteria other than the minimum salary?

Supposedly there are financial, sporting and ethical criteria.

 

[Squire]

Supposedly there are financial, sporting and ethical criteria.

Ah, the ethical criteria that W52 fulfilled with flying colours. A major obstacle for less ethically sound teams, I'd reckon.

 

[RedheadDane]

Ah, the ethical criteria that W52 fulfilled with flying colours. A major obstacle for less ethically sound teams, I'd reckon.

Well... they don't exist anymore, and it appears to have happened rather suddenly, so maybe they didn't quite fulfill the criteria...

W52 / FC Porto 2022

W52 / FC Porto was the name of the cyclingteam in 2022. The main riders on the team this season were , and .

www.procyclingstats.com

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Supposedly there are financial, sporting and ethical criteria.

I mean, with some teams sponsored by pseudo-dictatorships one would question that ethical criteria.

 

[search]

Pernsteiner has finally signed for Felt Felbrmayr instead of Ukyo, as well as Sebastian Schoenberger.

That's a pretty deep team for a Conti, with Pernsteiner, Schoeni, Kukrle, Brozyna, Stosz, Heidemann

With a couple of extra riders they could very well have been a PCT already this year.

The highest profile riders without an known destination at the moment:
Odd Eiking
Domenico Pozzovivo (Corratec if they are invited to Giro?)
Edvald Boasson Hagen
Lukas Postlberger
Jens Reynders
Amanuel Ghebreizhabier
Merhawi Kudus
Joe Dombrowski
James Fouche

I'd have expected Pöstlberger to be the WT rider to join Felt, tbh, but the recent developments could actually lead to a better deal for him, I guess. Bora has room for a return after the Uijtdebroeks transfer, and Jumbo may also be interested in a replacement for Hofstede.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Boasson Hagen will take the last spot at Ag2r according to Feltet.dk.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Well... they don't exist anymore, and it appears to have happened rather suddenly, so maybe they didn't quite fulfill the criteria...

W52 / FC Porto 2022

W52 / FC Porto was the name of the cyclingteam in 2022. The main riders on the team this season were , and .

www.procyclingstats.com

They'd dropped to Conti back in 2020. And it was more a joke at the expense that everybody with eyes in their head could see that they were thermonuclear glowing, and this was why they got very little value for their status, with the only race that they couldn't have done as a Conti team on their calendar in 2019 being the Tour of Turkey - itself a race with a rather chequered history. It simply wasn't worth the additional costs for them. Believe it or not, Balarcón in October 2019 would have been their first offence as a ProTeam, although they would have probably had the licence revoked when Edgar Pinto was flagged on the biopass in late 2020 anyway.

The dismantling of the team was... yea, that was something else. It happened in the middle of a (non-UCI) race and left about two riders untouched at the time, one of who was leading said race and was going to try to defend the leader's jersey on his own. It was like a trip back in time.

 

[Roku]

Several media sites reporting Julien Vermote will take up Lennard Hofstede spot at Visma. If so, glad for him after all the hard work he put throughout 2023.

 

[Tim Cahill]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1743974875830624669

Lotto-chef: Kron jagtet af Visma og Plugge

Ifølge Lotto Dstnys chef Stéphane Heulot forsøgte Visma - Lease a Bike at købe Andreas Kron fri fra sin kontrakt med det belgiske hold

www.feltet.dk

 

[Samamba]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1743974875830624669

Lotto-chef: Kron jagtet af Visma og Plugge

Ifølge Lotto Dstnys chef Stéphane Heulot forsøgte Visma - Lease a Bike at købe Andreas Kron fri fra sin kontrakt med det belgiske hold

www.feltet.dk

According to Visma, Kron contacted them himself thinking he could get out of his contract with a clause, which apparently he didn't have. I really doubt Kron would just randomly go to Visma trying to get out of his contract at the end of the year. And I find it weird that he wouldn't actually look at his contract first or call his agent to check if he actually had the clause, but yk who knows. I don't get surprised about anything in this cycling world anymore.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

The complete absence of repercussions for Visma's systematic breaking of transfer rules is a joke.

 

[Samamba]

The complete absence of repercussions for Visma's systematic breaking of transfer rules is a joke.

I refuse to believe they're the only ones trying it, but it's laughable that Plugge, the guy who needs to represent ALL teams as head of the AIGCP, is involved every single time and he gets away with it. I get it, it's good for rich teams that this becomes a new standard, but it's horrible for smaller teams. UCI needs to do something, that's for sure.

I mean I get why a lot of people meme guys like Vasseur for valid reason, but his comments about the Uijtdebroecks case were warranted, and it's no surprise another manager from a smaller team now does the same. They have absolutely no way of surviving if big teams just can get their riders whenever they want.

 

[Rob5091]

Visma and Kron, the story so far ...
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...ly-attempted-a-uijtdebroeks-with-andreas-kron

 

[scribers]

According to Visma, Kron contacted them himself thinking he could get out of his contract with a clause, which apparently he didn't have. I really doubt Kron would just randomly go to Visma trying to get out of his contract at the end of the year. And I find it weird that he wouldn't actually look at his contract first or call his agent to check if he actually had the clause, but yk who knows. I don't get surprised about anything in this cycling world anymore.

What is the protocol for visma here? Ignore the overture. Call the contract team to confirm availability. Or contact the rider’s agent to inquire(this feels the same as contacting the rider themselves).

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Only my best guess, but I would imagine the ethical thing would be to tell him to go back to his team, tell them that he would like to transfer to V|LAB, and get them to make contact if they are interested in doing a deal, or to confirm that they no longer have a claim over him. My understanding is that the teams should discuss before the "buyers" talk to the rider or his agent.

 

[scribers]

Does the contract team have a responsibility to notify suitors?

 

[Roku]

Surprising transfers:

James Fouche has signed for Euskaltel
Reinardt Van Rensburg joins Willie Smit on China Glory Team (Trarieux and De Rossi have also extended)

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Surprising transfers:

James Fouche has signed for Euskaltel
Reinardt Van Rensburg joins Willie Smit on China Glory Team (Trarieux and De Rossi have also extended)

I understand that Euskaltel is under pressure due to the new GT wildcard rules, but I don't really like the Fouche signing, if it does indeed happen. If they really want a non-Basque/Spanish rider, they should instead be signing Charles-Étienne Chrétien, who scored more UCI points last season, lives in the Basque Country and even rode for Laboral Kutxa before he was picked up by Rally/HPH.

 

[RedheadDane]

I understand that Euskaltel is under pressure due to the new GT wildcard rules, but I don't really like the Fouche signing, if it does indeed happen. If they really want a non-Basque/Spanish rider, they should instead be signing Charles-Étienne Chrétien, who scored more UCI points last season, lives in the Basque Country and even rode for Laboral Kutxa before he was picked up by Rally/HPH.

I thought you were sad this came too late for you to add Fouche to your not-so-Basque Street Boys.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I thought you were sad this came too late for you to add Fouche to your not-so-Basque Street Boys.

He could possibly become a pick for future games, but he wouldn't have qualified this year. Iker Bonillo, who might have Basque family, and Xavier Cañellas, who's from Mallorca, were omitted for the same reason. I even dropped the Joan Bou Company.