The Great Grand-Tour-Game 2014/15 "TdF Monster Edition"

[the sceptic]

thanks foxy, but the top 20 hasn't really been settled yet so I'm sure there will be big changes when the real mountain stages begin.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

That´s true, the mountains will decide and shake things up a lot...

Tomorrow picks:
Gilbert-13
Ulissi-7
Matthews-5 (certainly too hard for him)
Gerrans-3
Battaglin-2
Slagter-2
Cunego, Lobato (most likely too hard for him, unless he solos off successful before the last hill), Pozzovivo (DNF), Uran each 1

So we have 29 players with a chance to end the scoreless four stages streak.

 

[ILovecycling]

Re:

That´s true, the mountains will decide and shake things up a lot...

Tomorrow picks:
Gilbert-13
Ulissi-7
Matthews-5 (certainly too hard for him)
Gerrans-3
Battaglin-2
Slagter-2
Cunego, Lobato (most likely too hard for him, unless he solos off successful before the last hill), Pozzovivo (DNF), Uran each 1

So we have 29 players with a chance to end the scoreless four stages streak.

Well,this has to be longest drought

As for tomorrow I dont think its too hard for Matthews,Im more concerned about his allergies tho.
I thought I have a unique pick in Gilbert,well...

 

[Flamin]

Wow, so many Gilbert picks? good for those who don't

 

[Netserk]

I considered Visconti as my stage pick, but ended up backing Ulissi, which I'm very happy with at this point.

 

[the sceptic]

apparently the bookmakers think Lobato>Gilbert>Matthews>Ulissi which seems strange. I don't think Gilbert has the legs for this kind of finish right now so will definitely be rooting for the break tomorrow.

 

[Flamin]

Re:

apparently the bookmakers think Lobato>Gilbert>Matthews>Ulissi which seems strange. I don't think Gilbert has the legs for this kind of finish right now so will definitely be rooting for the break tomorrow.

When I made my bet on Lobato about 3h ago, it was Ulissi>>Gilbert>Lobato. But still, Gilbert as 2nd favourite is hilarious.

 

[ILovecycling]

Re: Re:

apparently the bookmakers think Lobato>Gilbert>Matthews>Ulissi which seems strange. I don't think Gilbert has the legs for this kind of finish right now so will definitely be rooting for the break tomorrow.

When I made my bet on Lobato about 3h ago, it was Ulissi>>Gilbert>Lobato. But still, Gilbert as 2nd favourite is hilarious.

What odds have you had?


just posted in betting thread, this stge is a gold mine

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

apparently the bookmakers think Lobato>Gilbert>Matthews>Ulissi which seems strange. I don't think Gilbert has the legs for this kind of finish right now so will definitely be rooting for the break tomorrow.

... and I think the finish is too hard for Lobato & Matthews (Gilbert not setting the world on fire anyway as you just said), that leaves us with... Ulissi (if the break doesn´t survive). Congrats to the magnificent seven who picked him upfront 2 weeks ago.
If he indeed wins, the divisions will tighten up even more.
5 of the 7 play "line-ball" on the wrong end whom thus a point will help greatly (Search, Netserk, Ferminal, Jaylew, PriceySky)
The other two are Flamin & G2F.

 

[ILovecycling]

Re:

apparently the bookmakers think Lobato>Gilbert>Matthews>Ulissi which seems strange. I don't think Gilbert has the legs for this kind of finish right now so will definitely be rooting for the break tomorrow.

... and I think the finish is too hard for Lobato & Matthews (Gilbert not setting the world on fire anyway as you just said), that leaves us with... Ulissi (if the break doesn´t survive). Congrats to the magnificent seven who picked him upfront 2 weeks ago.
If he indeed wins, the divisions will tighten up even more.
5 of the 7 play "line-ball" on the wrong end whom thus a point will help greatly (Search, Netserk, Ferminal, Jaylew, PriceySky)
The other two are Flamin & G2F.

Lobato is the only one who seriously responded to AC attack, yep, it was about 3% lesser slope but still I think he is confident.He said he targeted a stage in 2nd week and I think its this one (otoh I have Phil duhh)

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

"He said he targeted a stage in 2nd week and I think its this one"

I think... err... hope... no, I am sure he meant the "Gavazzi-Stage", and todays. He won the bunch sprint today, I picked him, all good... but for nothing.

The "Gavazzi-Stage" is stage 17. Originally I wanted to pick Gavazzi coz it would have covered almost everything. If it´s a sprint, Gavazzi could sneak into T-3 (assuming that many pure sprinters have given up by then). If it´s a break, chances are ok he´ll make it in there and ofc with great chances to win a "reduced sprint"... but then I decided for Lobato. Simply coz I also think he´s good enough to win one. Couldn´t find better stages than 11 & 17. And if 17 is a sprint, he´d own Gavazzi.

So much the theory. And then everything turns out differently ofc.

 

[ILovecycling]

17 th stage is not in 2nd week

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

LOL. Yes. My mistake. Anyway, I stay with my theory. Simply coz it sounds good.
... and then Gavazzi indeed wins. I then could bite myself for a 2nd time. The first being the change of Kangert for Cataldo in my T20.

 

[Flamin]

Re: Re:

apparently the bookmakers think Lobato>Gilbert>Matthews>Ulissi which seems strange. I don't think Gilbert has the legs for this kind of finish right now so will definitely be rooting for the break tomorrow.

When I made my bet on Lobato about 3h ago, it was Ulissi>>Gilbert>Lobato. But still, Gilbert as 2nd favourite is hilarious.

What odds have you had?


just posted in betting thread, this stge is a gold mine

8/1. Nothing crazy but good enough for me to take it who did you gamble on?

 

[Flamin]

Re:

"He said he targeted a stage in 2nd week and I think its this one"

I think... err... hope... no, I am sure he meant the "Gavazzi-Stage", and todays. He won the bunch sprint today, I picked him, all good... but for nothing.

The "Gavazzi-Stage" is stage 17. Originally I wanted to pick Gavazzi coz it would have covered almost everything. If it´s a sprint, Gavazzi could sneak into T-3 (assuming that many pure sprinters have given up by then). If it´s a break, chances are ok he´ll make it in there and ofc with great chances to win a "reduced sprint"... but then I decided for Lobato. Simply coz I also think he´s good enough to win one. Couldn´t find better stages than 11 & 17. And if 17 is a sprint, he´d own Gavazzi.

So much the theory. And then everything turns out differently ofc.

I saw him protecting Izagirre from the wind when the peloton was splitting, so I don't think so on the other hand, he wasted more energy than someone like Ulissi, who just rolled in yesterday.

 

[ILovecycling]

Re: Re:

apparently the bookmakers think Lobato>Gilbert>Matthews>Ulissi which seems strange. I don't think Gilbert has the legs for this kind of finish right now so will definitely be rooting for the break tomorrow.

When I made my bet on Lobato about 3h ago, it was Ulissi>>Gilbert>Lobato. But still, Gilbert as 2nd favourite is hilarious.

What odds have you had?


just posted in betting thread, this stge is a gold mine

8/1. Nothing crazy but good enough for me to take it who did you gamble on?

I just made h2h Phil vs Lobato @2.7 but pretty big check, and some other h2h's.

 

[l.Harm]

Bling is back in play

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Yes, this time they (AST) sent Kangi-Baby. So they trust his legs... my hope is back

 

[l.Harm]

Lot of experts in this topic concerning Gilbert

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Re:

That´s true, the mountains will decide and shake things up a lot...

Tomorrow picks:
Gilbert-13
Ulissi-7
Matthews-5 (certainly too hard for him)
Gerrans-3
Battaglin-2
Slagter-2
Cunego, Lobato (most likely too hard for him, unless he solos off successful before the last hill), Pozzovivo (DNF), Uran each 1

So we have 29 players with a chance to end the scoreless four stages streak.

apparently the bookmakers think Lobato>Gilbert>Matthews>Ulissi which seems strange. I don't think Gilbert has the legs for this kind of finish right now so will definitely be rooting for the break tomorrow.

... and I think the finish is too hard for Lobato & Matthews (Gilbert not setting the world on fire anyway as you just said), that leaves us with... Ulissi (if the break doesn´t survive). Congrats to the magnificent seven who picked him upfront 2 weeks ago.
If he indeed wins, the divisions will tighten up even more.
5 of the 7 play "line-ball" on the wrong end whom thus a point will help greatly (Search, Netserk, Ferminal, Jaylew, PriceySky)
The other two are Flamin & G2F.

Good calls, and a not so good one (Gilbert )...

Either way, lots of scorers today.

 

[l.Harm]

First I thought Geschke passed Ulissi on the finish line

 

[Netserk]

Many in my group have Gilbert. Can't really be too excited that Ulissi got 3rd.

 

[l.Harm]

Limits your losses and gives you an advantage to others with Matthews for instance. Can be important at the end.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Gazzetta.it: "Classifica non disponibile" ... still not

So the provisionals take more time...

It goes down, down, down. I thought Germany goes south fast. But Italy is even worse.
In the late 80s Giro-snow-stages were possible to show on TV (now they don´t even get their act together if it´s a little windy & rainy out there).
Just four years ago the standings were up in a hurry (as soon as the "28-mins-guys" crossed the line).
In the better days, race commissars showed sensivity. Now they tag on 2 mins on a CG contender as on a sprinter, for a phucking wheel change.. It´s absurd they (CG guys) get the same penalty like sprinters do (who give a fuck if they get tagged 2 mins or not). But if sprinters en masse dont make the time cut, they do show mercy. Inconsequent nitpickers. A pain in the ass. All over the world. Fat talent-free useless guys that only cost money.

OK. Had to realease some anger. End of rant.

 

[Netserk]

Geniez and Moinard switched placing again, otherwise no change in the top-20.