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Wallace

Wallace

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Seattle Masters Racers. Most of these guys are type-A+ personality (a funny term for people who actually seem to have no personality at all), highly-driven and successful. They come to serious athletics late in life--most of them were too busy being perfect students in college to do anything seriously athletic--and give bike racing the same intense focus every other aspect of their lives requires (except parenting--the number of guys I've met on rides who will mention something about missing their kid's little league/swim meet etc. so they can get their mileage in is horrifying. If you are not a professional athlete and you think your time on the bike is more important than being there to cheer on your child, you have officially failed at life). They have money, coaches, the best equipment, and a lot of them are strong as hell and really good racers. But they are soulless and joyless and a totally hateful bunch who don't understand that weekend bike racing is a hobby, and hobbies are supposed to be fun. Seriously guys--would it hurt to smile every once in a while?
 
Martin318is

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Wallace said:
Seattle Masters Racers. Most of these guys are type-A+ personality (a funny term for people who actually seem to have no personality at all), highly-driven and successful. They come to serious athletics late in life--most of them were too busy being perfect students in college to do anything seriously athletic--and give bike racing the same intense focus every other aspect of their lives requires (except parenting--the number of guys I've met on rides who will mention something about missing their kid's little league/swim meet etc. so they can get their mileage in is horrifying. If you are not a professional athlete and you think your time on the bike is more important than being there to cheer on your child, you have officially failed at life). They have money, coaches, the best equipment, and a lot of them are strong as hell and really good racers. But they are soulless and joyless and a totally hateful bunch who don't understand that weekend bike racing is a hobby, and hobbies are supposed to be fun. Seriously guys--would it hurt to smile every once in a while?
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Careful with the bit in bold. :D There is a LOT of room to move in the grey you left out - for example: "Working 50hours a week and have 2 kids so unfortunately on the weekend, the weekly ride means missing one of their activities each week - but I try to alternate" Is a very different situation to "Easy job and train 3 hours every night after work, then do big rides on the weekend so never see the kids."
 
Maxiton

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Wallace said:
Seattle Masters Racers. Most of these guys are type-A+ personality (a funny term for people who actually seem to have no personality at all), highly-driven and successful. They come to serious athletics late in life--most of them were too busy being perfect students in college to do anything seriously athletic--and give bike racing the same intense focus every other aspect of their lives requires (except parenting--the number of guys I've met on rides who will mention something about missing their kid's little league/swim meet etc. so they can get their mileage in is horrifying. If you are not a professional athlete and you think your time on the bike is more important than being there to cheer on your child, you have officially failed at life). They have money, coaches, the best equipment, and a lot of them are strong as hell and really good racers. But they are soulless and joyless and a totally hateful bunch who don't understand that weekend bike racing is a hobby, and hobbies are supposed to be fun. Seriously guys--would it hurt to smile every once in a while?
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Martin318is said:
Careful with the bit in bold. :D There is a LOT of room to move in the grey you left out - for example: "Working 50hours a week and have 2 kids so unfortunately on the weekend, the weekly ride means missing one of their activities each week - but I try to alternate" Is a very different situation to "Easy job and train 3 hours every night after work, then do big rides on the weekend so never see the kids."
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OK, now we officially have an interesting discussion. :D When I first read Wallace's point in bold, I cheered, and copied it so I could say I agree. Then I scrolled down and read Martin318is's point. Hmmm, I thought, he might have something there.

But as a parent (whose child is now grown) - and as a former child :D - I know how vitally important it is for parents to show up for children's events. And I personally would not skip that to go on a bike ride, no matter how much I'd paid for my bike or my PEDs. The ride can wait. You can always give some other part of your life short shrift - the wife, the house, the car, whatever - but not the kid(s). They need you.

EDIT: And that doesn't mean a parent needs to be at each activity - but parents do need to be there for events such as school plays and sports competitions ("little league/swim meets").
 
Martin318is

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EDIT: And that doesn't mean a parent needs to be at each activity - but parents do need to be there for events such as school plays and sports competitions ("little league/swim meets").
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Yep and thats the distinction I was trying to make - as a throwaway line the bold bit did seem a fair comment but only because we instinctively think like the bit of your post I just quoted. There is (in my mind) a massive difference between a school play or important sporting event and sitting on a chair while they are at ballet class or drama class or normal soccer practise, etc.

I'd never miss an important event - ever, but what I was getting at in my post is that if the only real time I have to get a decent sporting/health activity in is on the weekend, then I am going to balance my family's needs around also needing to fit that ride in. As my wife had previously said (when we were in the UK and I was up well over 80hours a week) "We'd rather miss a couple of daylight hours a week with you on the bike if it means extra years at the end".

That said, I also tried to make it clear that where the person has a more laidback lifestyle and they still put themselves first over their kids... well they are going to deserve it when they are dumped in a home later in life, grandpa Simpson style. :D
 
Maxiton

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Martin318is said:
Yep and thats the distinction I was trying to make - as a throwaway line the bold bit did seem a fair comment but only because we instinctively think like the bit of your post I just quoted. There is (in my mind) a massive difference between a school play or important sporting event and sitting on a chair while they are at ballet class or drama class or normal soccer practise, etc.

I'd never miss an important event - ever, but what I was getting at in my post is that if the only real time I have to get a decent sporting/health activity in is on the weekend, then I am going to balance my family's needs around also needing to fit that ride in. As my wife had previously said (when we were in the UK and I was up well over 80hours a week) "We'd rather miss a couple of daylight hours a week with you on the bike if it means extra years at the end".

That said, I also tried to make it clear that where the person has a more laidback lifestyle and they still put themselves first over their kids... well they are going to deserve it when they are dumped in a home later in life, grandpa Simpson style. :D
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OK, cool, then I guess we do agree. :cool:

I like that bold bit. A wise woman.

We now take you back to the haters thread, already in progress. :D
 
Wallace

Wallace

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I will admit that I did perhaps overstate the case--"failed in life" is a little strong. But it's my experience that when you meet people who have successful, demanding careers, families, and are racers, the only way they can make everything work is by neglecting one aspect of their lives, and almost always, it's family.
 
HL2037

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I would like to direct some hate at the new ads that turn up between comments in this forum.

"7 Ways an Enlarged Prostate Affects Urination"

Adriana Lima diet secrets

Pictures of strange and disturbing panties

3 Mistakes Women Make in the Bedroom

Female Anatomy Changes Post-Partum

Is this really necessary?
 
krebs303

krebs303

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What is an enlarged prostate?
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Angliru

Angliru

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HL2037 said:
I would like to direct some hate at the new ads that turn up between comments in this forum.

"7 Ways an Enlarged Prostate Affects Urination"

Adriana Lima diet secrets

Pictures of strange and disturbing panties

3 Mistakes Women Make in the Bedroom

Female Anatomy Changes Post-Partum

Is this really necessary?
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I'm in full agreement. I guy can't feed his cycling obsession at work without passers-by glancing at my monitor, seeing all the scantily clad women in the ads and thinking I'm on the job brazenly surfing porn sites.:eek:
 
HL2037

HL2037

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Angliru said:
I'm in full agreement. I guy can't feed his cycling obsession at work without passers-by glancing at my monitor, seeing all the scantily clad women in the ads and thinking I'm on the job brazenly surfing porn sites.:eek:
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I found a way around it, I installed some add on, don't remember the name, but it was recommended in a thread in the "about the forum" subforum. Since then I haven't seen the humorous knickers nor been reminded about post partum changes in female anatomy.
 
BroDeal

BroDeal

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HL2037 said:
I found a way around it, I installed some add on, don't remember the name, but it was recommended in a thread in the "about the forum" subforum. Since then I haven't seen the humorous knickers nor been reminded about post partum changes in female anatomy.
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Turn off Javascript and they don't show up.
 
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