The "I can't believe" Mikel Landa thread

[DanielSong39]

Obviously Nibali was doping in last year's Giro and got a boost from the blood bags in the second rest day. With that said, Kruijswijk fell, Chaves cracked, and Nibali received good assistance from teammates. Even Nibali's attacks looked like the standard doped-up rider variety, rather than Cancellara riding a motorbike over the cobbles.

As for Landa, it looks like he's not a good responder. Different people respond to different treatments in different ways, and it seems like his new cocktail just isn't getting it done for him. Or, another possibility is that his body benefited for a short period of time but then started rejecting it. You see similar cycles in tennis and golf.

 

[thehog]

Landa appears to be on the Froome 2013 6 month peak thing. Hope he rides the Vuelta and wins it then the world champs.

 

[sniper]

https://twitter.com/irishpeloton/status/892303820784586752

 

[Valv.Piti]

Re:

https://twitter.com/irishpeloton/status/892303820784586752

Have we sunk THIS low? THIS low?

 

[Netserk]

Majka '14 went on for longer.

 

[sniper]

Re:

Majka '14 went on for longer.

Cheers, interesting.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Re:

Majka '14 went on for longer.

Literally hundreds of other riders as well. It isn't special. Keep in mind Landa first peaked in the Giro, he was very medicore in the spring.

 

[sniper]

Special or not special, he's raising plenty of eyebrows currently.
I wonder if Sky are undividedly happy about it.

 

[yaco]

Valverde rode for GC at all 3 GT's tour in 2016 - One bad day in the Vuelta cost him top 10 in all 3 GC's - Landa effcetively had a week off in the Giro when he crashed in stage 9..

 

[sniper]

Interesting, although I doubt a comparison with Valverde is really going to help Landa's case.
To many, Valverde is currently the most ridiculous performer out there.
You saying Landa comes in second?

 

[yaco]

Re:

Interesting, although I doubt a comparison with Valverde is really going to help Landa's case.
To many, Valverde is currently the most ridiculous performer out there.
You saying Landa comes in second?

The relevance was to show that Valverde cracked in the Vuelta and that Landa didn't end up riding for GC at the Giro - The only GC rider from the Giro who showed any form was Mollema - And Mollema finished 3rd in San Sebastian - No mention of his super-human performance !

 

[sniper]

There is a Mollema thread. Feel free to mention it.

Anyway, Valpiti says "nothing special" re Landa. Good to know we both disagree with that.

 

[Valv.Piti]

No I say it isnt as outragegous as you make it sound like. The tweet you posted, which inciniated doping, was just stupid. Landa may very well be doping, but please come up with something better than this

 

[yaco]

Re: Re:

Interesting, although I doubt a comparison with Valverde is really going to help Landa's case.
To many, Valverde is currently the most ridiculous performer out there.
You saying Landa comes in second?

The relevance was to show that Valverde cracked in the Vuelta and that Landa didn't end up riding for GC at the Giro - The only GC rider from the Giro who showed any form was Mollema - And Mollema finished 3rd in San Sebastian - No mention of his super-human performance !

My examples are relevant to this discussion - Riders who are holding peak form or close to peak form for a longer period of time - And you could marry that up against riders who rode the Giro for GC or stages in the mountains - Nearly all performed miserably at the TDF - Because you don't like the example is unimportant.

 

[May0maniac]

Landa not riding for gc at the Giro, well he crashed and suffered a lot for a few days, those days weren't just taking it easy and for the remaining 2 weeks of the Giro he rode as hard as the gc guys and was probably the strongest climber in the race.

 

[StryderHells]

Re: Re:

https://twitter.com/irishpeloton/status/892303820784586752

Have we sunk THIS low? THIS low?

What is low about that tweet?

 

[Gung Ho Gun]

Re: Re:

https://twitter.com/irishpeloton/status/892303820784586752

Have we sunk THIS low? THIS low?

What is low about that tweet?

"Mikel Landa starts Vuelta a Burgos today. The only Team Sky rider there who rode the Tour" is quite silly as an argument for anything. The same holds for Trentin and Sicard. Quintana in 2013, Sanchez in 2010, Soler in 2007 all won Burgos after a very strong Tour. Riders have always cashed in on their post-Tour form during August. Landa's number of race days is nothing special, especially if this is the end of his season.

 

[StryderHells]

Re: Re:

https://twitter.com/irishpeloton/status/892303820784586752

Have we sunk THIS low? THIS low?

What is low about that tweet?

"Mikel Landa starts Vuelta a Burgos today. The only Team Sky rider there who rode the Tour" is quite silly as an argument for anything. The same holds for Trentin and Sicard. Quintana in 2013, Sanchez in 2010, Soler in 2007 all won Burgos after a very strong Tour. Riders have always cashed in on their post-Tour form during August. Landa's number of race days is nothing special, especially if this is the end of his season.

How about you quote it correctly "Mikel Landa starts Vuelta a Burgos today. The only Team Sky rider there who rode the Tour, The only rider there who rode the Giro & Tour" None of the riders who mentioned had ridden the Giro followed by the Tour and anyway I'm still failing to see why this tweet is seen as some type of new low

 

[bigcog]

Good display today.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Seems like he ain't done yet:

Stop the lights .....and get the Landa hype wagon unhitched ...he may be at the Vuelta

https://twitter.com/todaycyclingfr/status/894106496182755328

 

[thehog]

Re:

Seems like he ain't done yet:

Stop the lights .....and get the Landa hype wagon unhitched ...he may be at the Vuelta

https://twitter.com/todaycyclingfr/status/894106496182755328

Let's not stop RoboLanda, I hope he rides the WC and wins that as well.

 

[dolophonic]

Should make for a cracking race .. froome is going there to win so it coul result in a real ding dong !

Bring it !!!!!!!!! :razz:

 

[thehog]

Should make for a cracking race .. froome is going there to win so it coul result in a real ding dong !

Bring it !!!!!!!!! :razz:

If RoboLanda goes to the Vuelta he has to share leadership with Froome. We can't have Landa falling asleep at 500w helping Froome again. That would be no fun.

 

[dolophonic]

Should make for a cracking race .. froome is going there to win so it coul result in a real ding dong !

Bring it !!!!!!!!! :razz:

If RoboLanda goes to the Vuelta he has to share leadership with Froome. We can't have Landa falling asleep at 500w helping Froome again. That would be no fun.

Exatamente .. we can only hope things go full *** !

 

[thehog]

Should make for a cracking race .. froome is going there to win so it coul result in a real ding dong !

Bring it !!!!!!!!! :razz:

If RoboLanda goes to the Vuelta he has to share leadership with Froome. We can't have Landa falling asleep at 500w helping Froome again. That would be no fun.

Exatamente .. we can only hope things go full *** !

RoboLanda only has one mode; full regard! Although he does tend to drift off and fall asleep when his motor has been running for long periods pacing Froome.