The Lance Deposition Tapes (Complete Testimony Now Available)

[TexPat]

Hundreds. And I thought he looked uncomfortable. I was also struck by the lack of respect he showed for the process. Perhaps those who know him will not be surprised by that. When you give your oath, it's a big thing you are doing. If you have to sit, sit up straight like a man, and how about saying "yes" or "I will" instead of "yah."

One thing that struck me in his responses was how many times he said "If XXX didn't happen, how could I have done YYY?" That's a lot different from saying "XXX did not happen. I did not do YYY." It may seem trivial on this message board, but it's actually a good indicator of deception when someone removes themselves from a topic, talks in hypotheses, and fails to take ownership of a situation.

For those of you wondering about how this case never really solved the issues at hand from the side of SCA et al, realize that this kangaroo court occurred in Texas.
He refused to even show up for his depo in my case, which would have put him in contempt of court---had it actually shown an inclination to apply normal rulings.
So, that's not an earthquake in Wellington you feel; that's just me stomping up and down and laughing at the whole new affair. Some comeuppance viewed from down under.
I hope the Fed's case gains traction.

 

[fatandfast]

For those of you wondering about how this case never really solved the issues at hand from the side of SCA et al, realize that this kangaroo court occurred in Texas.
He refused to even show up for his depo in my case, which would have put him in contempt of court---had it actually shown an inclination to apply normal rulings.
So, that's not an earthquake in Wellington you feel; that's just me stomping up and down and laughing at the whole new affair. Some comeuppance viewed from down under.
I hope the Fed's case gains traction.

Where are the unedited tapes? Why if nothing was "solved" did Armstrong receive the bonus money? Many people who travel for work can give video depositions and it is in no way disrespectful or shows any contempt for the court or the legal process. Anybody who has spent anytime in court knows it a court of law..just the laws there is very little justice accomplished there.

Frankie and his wife have a story,Lance has a totally different one..people keep writing checks and Lance keeps cashing them. When and if Novitzky ever comes to trial Frankie and his wife will have to shell out another few 1000 for an attorney....I guess it's money well spent to verify once again that nobody can verify what was said in an Indiana hospital room over a decade ago..

Poor Frankie, if he has to blab for the federal monkeys he will certainly lose his TV gig. Lance's legal team will make sure that Andreau's drug taking history and timeline are accurate. Again totally different stories..Frankie told everybody he did and Lance told ever body he didn't. Stranger still is why the legal numbskull keeps trying to trip up Armstrong and how each time Armstrong stays on message during the brief and incomplete video

 

[BotanyBay]

When and if Novitzky ever comes to trial Frankie and his old lady will have to shell out another few 1000 for an attorney

Why does Frankie get to be "Frankie", but you refer to his wife as "his old lady"? She happens to be a member of this forum (Elizab) and perhaps it would not be too much to ask of you to show her the same level of respect that you yourself expect from other members of this forum.

And as far as the unedited tapes, I'm certain that interested parties have already reached-out to Fabiani to ask for them.

But be careful about what you ask for. You just might get it.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Where are the unedited tapes? Why if nothing was "solved" did Armstrong receive the bonus money? Many people who travel for work can give video depositions and it is in no way disrespectful or shows any contempt for the court or the legal process. Anybody who has spent anytime in court knows it a court of law..just the laws there is very little justice accomplished there.

Why was the SCA case "solved" in Armstrongs favour - because the case was decided on Texas contract law, not on the testimony supplied.

Do you really expect to see a video that went from 10:09am to 1:44pm put up on youtube?

Here is Lances full testimony - there are plenty more errors and lies then what was shown on the tape.

Frankie and his wife have a story,Lance has a totally different one..people keep writing checks and Lance keeps cashing them. When and if Novitzky ever comes to trial Frankie and his old lady will have to shell out another few 1000 for an attorney....I guess it's money well spent to verify once again that nobody can verify what was said in an Indiana hospital room over a decade ago..

Frankie & Betsy have already spoken with Novizky - and they waived their right to have a lawyer present.

Poor Frankie, if he has to blab for the federal monkeys he will certainly lose his TV gig. Lance's legal team will make sure that Andreau's drug taking history and timeline are accurate. Again totally different stories..Frankie told everybody he did and Lance told ever body he didn't. Stranger still is why the legal numbskull keeps trying to trip up Armstrong and how each time Armstrong stays on message during the brief and incomplete video

Armstrong wasn't supposed to 'stay on message' - he was supposed to tell the truth...... then again the lawyer should have asked him if he actually knew what that was.

 

[mainemike]

Well Mainemike, that really is an irrelevant question.

Even Blind Freddie can spot a liar from a mile off. Body language speaks all languages.

Got to admit the tapes are entertaining.

Novitzky is gonna love these!

cheers

Find me an accountant involved in fraud and whom does not lie! OR find me a doper who does not lie!

its relevant in that i was curious. i've seen a few, but not enough to infer much. if you or whoever have seen more, then of course i'd defer to that expertise/insight. get it?

 

[Granville57]

Where...Why...who

I must say, I've yet to be impressed by a single post of yours but at least this time you used some paragraph breaks, so I'll give you that.

The rest of your rant? Pure idiocy coupled with ignorance of the subject.

 

[bartender]

Lance may not ride anymore, but he will continue to skate.

 

[Polish]

Theres more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQHVIIfo6Lk

Pinocchio was transformed from a donkey into a real boy.
He could not climb or TT before his transformation btw.

 

[darkcloud]

Yea that's the thing that got under my skin. It was like "Sorry, don't mean to bother you guy, I mean, I'm just asking. No need to get your feathers ruffled Lance...of course, you're doing so much good for those cancer patients."

What an injustice to Frankie and Betsie.

I would not worry about the questioning. I was a juror on a high profile case not too long ago. I was surprised by how civil the District Attorney was to the accused. Week after week after week of politeness.
The gloves came off during the cross examinations for the guilt phase. Even more so during the penalty phase. These guys are not stupid.

 

[Anonymous]

Pinocchio was transformed from a donkey into a real boy.
He could not climb or TT before his transformation btw.

Or he was a wooden puppet that came to life and was known for telling lies, fabricating stories and exaggerating or creating tall tales.

 

[BotanyBay]

Lance may not ride anymore, but he will continue to skate.

Post of the day!

 

[fatandfast]

if the Andreau's do not get a lawyer before one or both of them testify in federal court that would be very unorthodox. The assertion that contact law is vastly different in Texas is silly. The insult about a kangaroo court is telling. as long as you get the outcome you want then everything is grand but if Lance walks away without injury only a few 100 thousand lighter for his legal defense every typer will go hyper about how the courts are flawed...so much material is already available with very little needed other than to substitute Lance for OJ where applicable. I hope that during an audit the real numbers of how many millions they spent on an unneeded circus recreation.

Why didn't you go to the local authority about your husband's drug use? Frankie did you ever use drugs for pleasure or was it always to cheat the racers,promoter and your employer? Do you think that VS or VN TV should have a disclaimer saying that the network often hires ex-drug users to comment on big bike races ? This new way of coming out of the closet is great..
Frankie admitted he used drugs..he should have to go into detail about how and what he squirted into himself..after all his story of system and acceptance will need to be compared to Landis's positively false version. I hope the downside for the Andreau's is steep and slippery .

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Post of the day!

I am late to the party. ....

YOU DOWN WIT OPP????? Freaking hillarious!

 

[Polish]

Or he was a wooden puppet that came to life and was known for telling lies, fabricating stories and exaggerating or creating tall tales.

Ouch. Take THAT Pinocchio.
Major puppet slapdown.

 

[BotanyBay]

if the Andreau's do not get a lawyer before one or both of them testify in federal court that would be very unorthodox. The assertion that contact law is vastly different in Texas is silly. The insult about a kangaroo court is telling. as long as you get the outcome you want then everything is grand but if Lance walks away without injury only a few 100 thousand lighter for his legal defense every typer will go hyper about how the courts are flawed...so much material is already available with very little needed other than to substitute Lance for OJ where applicable. I hope that during an audit the real numbers of how many millions they spent on an unneeded circus recreation.

I hope they ask Betsy when she knew her husband was using drugs and if she was ever worried about getting stuck with a needle. If not why..was there a special room or a not in the house rule for hubbies needle craft? Why didn't you go to the local authority about your husband's drug use? Frankie did you ever use drugs for pleasure or was it always to cheat the racers,promoter and your employer? Do you think that VS or VN TV should have a disclaimer saying that the network often hires ex-drug users to comment on big bike races ? This new way of coming out of the closet is great..
Frankie admitted he used drugs..he should have to go into detail about how and what he squirted into himself..after all his story of system and acceptance will need to be compared to Landis's positively false version. I hope the downside for the Andreau's is steep and slippery .

So do you dig-up dirt on rape victims for a living?

 

[MacRoadie]

Why didn't you go to the local authority about your husband's drug use? Frankie did you ever use drugs for pleasure or was it always to cheat the racers,promoter and your employer? Do you think that VS or VN TV should have a disclaimer saying that the network often hires ex-drug users to comment on big bike races ? This new way of coming out of the closet is great..
Frankie admitted he used drugs..he should have to go into detail about how and what he squirted into himself..after all his story of system and acceptance will need to be compared to Landis's positively false version. I hope the downside for the Andreau's is steep and slippery .

Two paragraphs of complete and utter ignorance of the facts already laid out by the Andreus.

You do realize that no amount of sophomoric vitriol levelled at the Andreus will serve to obfuscate the facts as they relate to Armstrong.

 

[D-Queued]

Pinocchio was transformed from a donkey into a real boy.
He could not climb or TT before his transformation btw.

And, Lance has been transformed from a real boy into a donkey, while you and your friends continue the wooden puppet routine.

Dave.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

if the Andreau's do not get a lawyer before one or both of them testify in federal court that would be very unorthodox. The assertion that contact law is vastly different in Texas is silly. The insult about a kangaroo court is telling. as long as you get the outcome you want then everything is grand but if Lance walks away without injury only a few 100 thousand lighter for his legal defense every typer will go hyper about how the courts are flawed...so much material is already available with very little needed other than to substitute Lance for OJ where applicable. I hope that during an audit the real numbers of how many millions they spent on an unneeded circus recreation.

Why didn't you go to the local authority about your husband's drug use? Frankie did you ever use drugs for pleasure or was it always to cheat the racers,promoter and your employer? Do you think that VS or VN TV should have a disclaimer saying that the network often hires ex-drug users to comment on big bike races ? This new way of coming out of the closet is great..
Frankie admitted he used drugs..he should have to go into detail about how and what he squirted into himself..after all his story of system and acceptance will need to be compared to Landis's positively false version. I hope the downside for the Andreau's is steep and slippery .

Nice try - but it won't be the Andreu's who will be accused of anything.

 

[Digger]

if the Andreau's do not get a lawyer before one or both of them testify in federal court that would be very unorthodox. The assertion that contact law is vastly different in Texas is silly. The insult about a kangaroo court is telling. as long as you get the outcome you want then everything is grand but if Lance walks away without injury only a few 100 thousand lighter for his legal defense every typer will go hyper about how the courts are flawed...so much material is already available with very little needed other than to substitute Lance for OJ where applicable. I hope that during an audit the real numbers of how many millions they spent on an unneeded circus recreation.

Why didn't you go to the local authority about your husband's drug use? Frankie did you ever use drugs for pleasure or was it always to cheat the racers,promoter and your employer? Do you think that VS or VN TV should have a disclaimer saying that the network often hires ex-drug users to comment on big bike races ? This new way of coming out of the closet is great..
Frankie admitted he used drugs..he should have to go into detail about how and what he squirted into himself..after all his story of system and acceptance will need to be compared to Landis's positively false version. I hope the downside for the Andreau's is steep and slippery .

Frankie outlined his usage in great detail - if you have not bothered to read it, that's your problem.
What exactly did they do wrong? Should they have told lies in the SCA case and committed perjury?

 

[Polish]

And, Lance has been transformed from a real boy into a donkey, while you and your friends continue the wooden puppet routine.

Dave.

Continue our wooden puppet routine?
What the heck is that lol?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Jhxe7OaEUg
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.
.

 

[Hugh Januss]

I must say, I've yet to be impressed by a single post of yours but at least this time you used some paragraph breaks, so I'll give you that.


You do realize that no amount of sophomoric vitriol levelled at the Andreus will serve to obfuscate the facts as they relate to Armstrong.

Flabby has always impressed me as one of the deep thinkers on this forum.

 

[fatandfast]

I don'y think Betsy Andreau ever admitted to using drugs.. of any kind. Her husband is paid as a cycling expert. He is also an admitted drug user. He used drugs while on the job and for financial gain. He used them in such a way as to avoided detection and in violation of a few written contracts that he signed with his employer,race promoters and race organizers. That is not sophomoric crap..just old facts. Landis and Andreau have drug use in common during professional sporting events. The duration and extent of his drug use can easily be introduced just as was mentioned in the deposition. More than one guy has said they "protected" Lance. Armstrong not very cleverly and even less sincerely said that he didn't know what they meant when they said "protected".

The vital difference between the 3 men is that 2 said they used drugs and one did not. Armstrong is allowed to say that for a number of reasons but primarily because he avoided detection with the processes in place. Just like speeding..yes he did it..but caught in the act is the way that 98% of offenders are held responsible. I hope that the Andreau's realize that the recount of Lance's history may also included rehashing some of there own. Landis has stated to anybody that will listen that he personally witnessed every guy on the team use..micro conflict in development is Frankie included in Landis's memory of the shooting gallery ? That he swears was common place at Postal ?. Frankie will come to find that talking heads for US cycling coverage are pretty easy to come by and that a guy in the news for the wrong reasons will probably be passed over for some other 7-11 or Coors Light rider that can hold a microphone.

Mr.Andreau's contempt for the rule of law could be explored as part of his character makeup as to how often he tells the truth.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

I don'y think Betsy Andreau ever admitted to using drugs.. of any kind. Her husband is paid as a cycling expert. He is also an admitted drug user. He used drugs while on the job and for financial gain. He used them in such a way as to avoided detection and in violation of a few written contracts that he signed with his employer,race promoters and race organizers. That is not sophomoric crap..just old facts. Landis and Andreau have drug use in common during professional sporting events. The duration and extent of his drug use can easily be introduced just as was mentioned in the deposition. More than one guy has said they "protected" Lance. Armstrong not very cleverly and even less sincerely said that he didn't know what they meant when they said "protected".

The vital difference between the 3 men is that 2 said they used drugs and one did not. Armstrong is allowed to say that for a number of reasons but primarily because he avoided detection with the processes in place. Just like speeding..yes he did it..but caught in the act is the way that 98% of offenders are held responsible. I hope that the Andreau's realize that the recount of Lance's history may also included rehashing some of there own. Landis has stated to anybody that will listen that he personally witnessed every guy on the team use..micro conflict in development is Frankie included in Landis's memory of the shooting gallery ? That he swears was common place at Postal ?. Frankie will come to find that talking heads for US cycling coverage are pretty easy to come by and that a guy in the news for the wrong reasons will probably be passed over for some other 7-11 or Coors Light rider that can hold a microphone.

Mr.Andreau's contempt for the rule of law could be explored as part of his character makeup as to how often he tells the truth.

How can Landis have seen anything done by Frankie if they were not on the team at the same time?

 

[Digger]

I don'y think Betsy Andreau ever admitted to using drugs.. of any kind. Her husband is paid as a cycling expert. He is also an admitted drug user. He used drugs while on the job and for financial gain. He used them in such a way as to avoided detection and in violation of a few written contracts that he signed with his employer,race promoters and race organizers. That is not sophomoric crap..just old facts. Landis and Andreau have drug use in common during professional sporting events. The duration and extent of his drug use can easily be introduced just as was mentioned in the deposition. More than one guy has said they "protected" Lance. Armstrong not very cleverly and even less sincerely said that he didn't know what they meant when they said "protected".

The vital difference between the 3 men is that 2 said they used drugs and one did not. Armstrong is allowed to say that for a number of reasons but primarily because he avoided detection with the processes in place. Just like speeding..yes he did it..but caught in the act is the way that 98% of offenders are held responsible. I hope that the Andreau's realize that the recount of Lance's history may also included rehashing some of there own. Landis has stated to anybody that will listen that he personally witnessed every guy on the team use..micro conflict in development is Frankie included in Landis's memory of the shooting gallery ? That he swears was common place at Postal ?. Frankie will come to find that talking heads for US cycling coverage are pretty easy to come by and that a guy in the news for the wrong reasons will probably be passed over for some other 7-11 or Coors Light rider that can hold a microphone.

Mr.Andreau's contempt for the rule of law could be explored as part of his character makeup as to how often he tells the truth.

Lol you are so clueless it's actually funny.
Firstly Landis witnessed the team doping on the bus, Frankie was retired at that stage.
Frankie's contempt? Why? Because he tells the truth.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I don'y think Betsy Andreau ever admitted to using drugs.. of any kind. Her husband is paid as a cycling expert. He is also an admitted drug user. He used drugs while on the job and for financial gain. He used them in such a way as to avoided detection and in violation of a few written contracts that he signed with his employer,race promoters and race organizers. That is not sophomoric crap..just old facts. Landis and Andreau have drug use in common during professional sporting events. The duration and extent of his drug use can easily be introduced just as was mentioned in the deposition. More than one guy has said they "protected" Lance. Armstrong not very cleverly and even less sincerely said that he didn't know what they meant when they said "protected".

The vital difference between the 3 men is that 2 said they used drugs and one did not. Armstrong is allowed to say that for a number of reasons but primarily because he avoided detection with the processes in place. Just like speeding..yes he did it..but caught in the act is the way that 98% of offenders are held responsible. I hope that the Andreau's realize that the recount of Lance's history may also included rehashing some of there own. Landis has stated to anybody that will listen that he personally witnessed every guy on the team use..micro conflict in development is Frankie included in Landis's memory of the shooting gallery ? That he swears was common place at Postal ?. Frankie will come to find that talking heads for US cycling coverage are pretty easy to come by and that a guy in the news for the wrong reasons will probably be passed over for some other 7-11 or Coors Light rider that can hold a microphone.

Mr.Andreau's contempt for the rule of law could be explored as part of his character makeup as to how often he tells the truth.

Again nice try - the Andreus will not be the one's to have been shown lying (prejury) to get their hands on $5 million dollars. Does Frankie have any ownership of Tailwind Sports who the funding went through to set up and buy PEDs?