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happychappy said:Bronstein said:Summary of the the crazy Rasmussen vs. Contador duel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMaPvrIxvyc.
Check out 3:32-7:28 in particular.
Evans is the biggest wheelsucker in the history of cycling.
happychappy said:Bronstein said:Summary of the the crazy Rasmussen vs. Contador duel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMaPvrIxvyc.
Check out 3:32-7:28 in particular.
Evans is the biggest wheelsucker in the history of cycling.
SeriousSam said:Ah, "The Gift" stage. Armstrong's sprint doesn't seem quite as intense, at least towards the end, but the length is just insane. He decides he wants to get to Pantani so he sprints all the way there for a f.ucking minute, hilarious.
Scarponi said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU-kNDQuiIo
I think its Kloden at 6.54 in the 2010 Fleche Wallone
DFA123 said:Scarponi said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU-kNDQuiIo
I think its Kloden at 6.54 in the 2010 Fleche Wallone
I don't see that as an Alien jump at all. It seems to me that he is just sprinting while everyone else is trying to pace themselves. To be alien, he would have had to gone on and won by 30 seconds, not blow up a minute later. Even if that would have happened, it doesn't compare to Froome or Armstrong putting in a massive, prolonged sprinted attack in the middle of climbing Ventoux and then immediately recovering to continue riding around threshold.
Scarponi said:DFA123 said:Scarponi said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU-kNDQuiIo
I think its Kloden at 6.54 in the 2010 Fleche Wallone
I don't see that as an Alien jump at all. It seems to me that he is just sprinting while everyone else is trying to pace themselves. To be alien, he would have had to gone on and won by 30 seconds, not blow up a minute later. Even if that would have happened, it doesn't compare to Froome or Armstrong putting in a massive, prolonged sprinted attack in the middle of climbing Ventoux and then immediately recovering to continue riding around threshold.
I think its an Alien jump, not those half hearted attempts we see from guys like Arredondo today.
The jump is the discussion, not if they win or keep it going
Scarponi said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU-kNDQuiIo
I think its Kloden at 6.54 in the 2010 Fleche Wallone
sniper said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv3CiyrRTMg
seated uphill accelleration away from the competition.
very rare indeed.
only cance 2010 De Muur did that previously to my knowledge.
and maybe Froome 2013 Mont Ventoux.
agreed.Brian Butterfield said:sniper said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv3CiyrRTMg
seated uphill accelleration away from the competition.
very rare indeed.
only cance 2010 De Muur did that previously to my knowledge.
and maybe Froome 2013 Mont Ventoux.
Having played this clip many times now (confirmed cheating is sort of hypnotic to watch) I can see some distinct similarities.
sure, but that was all out of the saddle if i recall correctly. I could be wrong but in my opinion the truly suspicious jumps are (a) uphill, (b) devastating and (c) in-saddle.thehog said:Chris Froome vs Alberto Contador at the Dauphine stage 2 had moto doping written all over it. Multiple alien attacks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKDgNRGUIuA
Sacrifice and hard work.oldcrank said:Sadly for our sport, I think we now have proof and evidence
of how a rider with a broken leg can "win" a Grand Tour.
sniper said:sure, but that was all out of the saddle if i recall correctly. I could be wrong but in my opinion the truly suspicious jumps are (a) uphill, (b) devastating and (c) in-saddle.thehog said:Chris Froome vs Alberto Contador at the Dauphine stage 2 had moto doping written all over it. Multiple alien attacks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKDgNRGUIuA
but i think the truly devastating jumps where they really distanced other riders and/or eachother were out of saddle(?).thehog said:sniper said:sure, but that was all out of the saddle if i recall correctly. I could be wrong but in my opinion the truly suspicious jumps are (a) uphill, (b) devastating and (c) in-saddle.thehog said:Chris Froome vs Alberto Contador at the Dauphine stage 2 had moto doping written all over it. Multiple alien attacks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKDgNRGUIuA
No, 80% of the attacks were in saddle.
Have you actually studied the physics in those four episodes you list? I read this a while ago:sniper said:but i think the truly devastating jumps where they really distanced other riders and/or eachother were out of saddle(?).thehog said:sniper said:sure, but that was all out of the saddle if i recall correctly. I could be wrong but in my opinion the truly suspicious jumps are (a) uphill, (b) devastating and (c) in-saddle.thehog said:Chris Froome vs Alberto Contador at the Dauphine stage 2 had moto doping written all over it. Multiple alien attacks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKDgNRGUIuA
No, 80% of the attacks were in saddle.
I would not at all be surprised to find out they were using motors there. Just saying that in my recollection I didn't see the type of jump there that constitutes visual evidence of a motor, such as cancellara's Muur away from boonen or froome's Ventoux away from derty.
But will have to check it again.
Thus far, I've only seen four 'motor-evidence' type of jumps, i.e. jumps that physiologically do not make any sense whatsoever:
- cancellara Paris Roubaix
- cancellara Muur
- froome Ventoux
- femke vd driesschen
cheers,Cance > TheRest said:Have you actually studied the physics in those four episodes you list? I read this a while ago:sniper said:but i think the truly devastating jumps where they really distanced other riders and/or eachother were out of saddle(?).thehog said:sniper said:sure, but that was all out of the saddle if i recall correctly. I could be wrong but in my opinion the truly suspicious jumps are (a) uphill, (b) devastating and (c) in-saddle.thehog said:Chris Froome vs Alberto Contador at the Dauphine stage 2 had moto doping written all over it. Multiple alien attacks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKDgNRGUIuA
No, 80% of the attacks were in saddle.
I would not at all be surprised to find out they were using motors there. Just saying that in my recollection I didn't see the type of jump there that constitutes visual evidence of a motor, such as cancellara's Muur away from boonen or froome's Ventoux away from derty.
But will have to check it again.
Thus far, I've only seen four 'motor-evidence' type of jumps, i.e. jumps that physiologically do not make any sense whatsoever:
- cancellara Paris Roubaix
- cancellara Muur
- froome Ventoux
- femke vd driesschen
http://cozybeehive.blogspot.dk/2010/06/anatomy-of-cancellara-attack.html
Perhaps it would be a good idea to take a look at that, before making claims.
Metabolol said:Did Landa start moto doping last year?