The Mou is the One and Only Phropet Thread

[ice&fire]

Pog can’t wait for sure. He wants to win everything

He must have changed his mind

 

[theyoungest]

So Pogacar is a worse time trialist than Jorgenson and Pogacar is on a similar level to Lipowitz or what?

Pogacar on a rolling or flat course has never been very dominant. Vingegaard was at least as good (and often better). Vingo is just naturally more aero than him. Last year in the Tour he was absolutely flying, but that was kind of an anomaly.

 

[Rou]

Pogacar on a rolling or flat course has never been very dominant. Vingegaard was at least as good (and often better). Vingo is just naturally more aero than him. Last year in the Tour he was absolutely flying, but that was kind of an anomaly.

Pogacar has regularly beaten Vingegaard in TT's in the first week of the Tour and in races earlier in the season. He is heavier and has more absolute power. The anomaly was in 2023 which was climbing heavy while today wasn't.

 

[Cycling111]

Pogacar on a rolling or flat course has never been very dominant. Vingegaard was at least as good (and often better). Vingo is just naturally more aero than him. Last year in the Tour he was absolutely flying, but that was kind of an anomaly.

Pogacar won the 2021 flat time trial. In the first one last year, Remco only beat him, and by less than half the difference today in more kilometres. That time trial was very similar to today's, but longer in 2024.
And in the 2020 time trial, he set the best time on the flat section.

Pogacar isn't at Lipowitz's level, nor has he ever been worse than Jorgenson.

1	EVENEPOEL Remco	Soudal Quick-Step	210	100		28.52,19	52.581
2	POGAČAR Tadej	UAE Team Emirates	150	70		0.12,36	52.208
3	ROGLIČ Primož	Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe	110	50		0.34,32	51.559
4	VINGEGAARD Jonas	Team Visma | Lease a Bike	90	40		0.37,44	51.468

 

[theyoungest]

Pogacar has regularly beaten Vingegaard in TT's in the first week of the Tour and in races earlier in the season. He is heavier and has more absolute power. The anomaly was in 2023 which was climbing heavy while today wasn't.

He has more power, but he's less aero.

 

[Rou]

He has more power, but he's less aero.

I agree. My point is that today he was abnormaly bad so there must be an explanation.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Watching mou get dragged....

 

[Berniece]

I don't know what's worse, those who adore him or those who hate him but can't stop talking about him in every thread.

Deep down, I think they're trying to project hatred toward a cyclist onto him.

In the Dauphine thread, there was literally a comment hoping Pogacar would be humiliated at every race.

There are people who, more than liking a cyclist, want to see a rival humiliated.
It's an insane way of looking at sport.

It’s the other way around, people like him make you dislike the rider

 

[scribers]

Petition for UAE to pay MOU to stop making pre-race projections.

It will be money well spent.

 

[Cycling111]

Petition for UAE to pay MOU to stop making pre-race projections.

It will be money well spent.

Ultimately, it's the fault of those who give him importance.

And I think his detractors are even more obsessed with him than the people who believe him, which I think are very few people today.

Today I saw that Benji Naesen retweeted his mistake.
If hethink he's a fraud, why retweet him? They retweet any failed prediction from a random person on Twitter?
Having made a mistake, with that retweet he's won back everything he lost.

They don't realize that they're just as ridiculous, if not more so, than he is. In the end, his detractors play into his game more than anyone else and end up making themselves even more ridiculous because, deep down, they're the ones who give him the notoriety he seeks..

In this same thread, most of the messages are from critics LOL.


By the way, Mour said that Pogacar held the record for the climb. Another mistake; he was guided by X's comments, which we've discussed here before. On Strava, it shows that Pogacar climbed like Jorgenson, meaning he was slower than the first two.
But it doesn't matter how many times he's wrong, this thread has more messages from detractors than admirers.
That's what he lives off, the interactions.

 

[scribers]

I was here and saw his thang in real time. Good stuff.

The pre-race projections have nothing to do with inside information. It's just an idea with no where to go but down.

 

[TrekCyclist]

agree. My point is that today he was abnormaly bad so there must be an explanation.

who knows, maybe he simply is still human at the end?
A few years ago, losing 30s more than maybe expected in e.g. a Dauphine oder TdS time trial was hardly seen as exceptionally abnormal or worrying for a GC contender.

 

[scribers]

Oh, and Benji isn't a great example of a credible resource

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

I don't mind seeing fanboys like mou chamois-sniffing their favorite riders. Whatever, that's what fans do. I do mind bullies, and what mou is doing to riders like Ayuso and others is just plain online bullying.

 

[Gigs_98]

Days like today prove that Mou is simply a guy who went into last year with the attitude, "I'm gonna bet the over on Pogacar every single race", and during a historically great season that will make you look very smart. I bet a bunch of Ronaldo fanboys predicted Portugal to win the 2016 Euros but that doesn't mean they were more knowledgable than experts who did not expect that to happen.

I have no idea what the guys background is but his persona as a cycling oracle was always so nonsensical when all he ever predicted was Pogacar to win whatsver race he enters (except MSR, I'll give him that). If I can tell you what someone will predict a day before he tweets it, how much insight can those tweets really contain?

 

[Pozzovivo]

Days like today prove that Mou is simply a guy who went into last year with the attitude, "I'm gonna bet the over on Pogacar every single race", and during a historically great season that will make you look very smart. I bet a bunch of Ronaldo fanboys predicted Portugal to win the 2016 Euros but that doesn't mean they were more knowledgable than experts who did not expect that to happen.

I have no idea what the guys background is but his persona as a cycling oracle was always so nonsensical when all he ever predicted was Pogacar to win whatsver race he enters (except MSR, I'll give him that). If I can tell you what someone will predict a day before he tweets it, how much insight can those tweets really contain?

Mou is wrong on specific predictions ALL THE TIME - and follows it up by pretending he got it right. In fact, he contradicts himself moments after the failed prediction every time. Today is a perfect example, whereby all week he says POG will humiliate everyone on TT, and today he says that the poor performance is exactly what he predicted - all part of the plan - "Dauphine is training block" LOL.

Two of his major theses have been correct of course: "Pogacar GOAT level 2024", and "Almeida significant step up 2025" - which all boils down to the riders changing coach from San Milan to Sola.

 

[2WpK]

This is one of the best threads on the internet.

 

[Mayomaniac]

I don't mind seeing fanboys like mou chamois-sniffing their favorite riders. Whatever, that's what fans do. I do mind bullies, and what mou is doing to riders like Ayuso and others is just plain online bullying.

This, being a fanboy isn't a problem, insulting other riders and generally being dismissive towards their chances even if they have a decent track record against his favourite rider (Vingegaard) is the problem. My general impression is that the guy is probably still in his teens (at least that's what I hope for).

 

[pastronef]

This, being a fanboy isn't a problem, insulting other riders and generally being dismissive towards their chances even if they have a decent track record against his favourite rider (Vingegaard) is the problem. My general impression is that the guy is probably still in his teens (at least that's what I hope for).

probably not, an adult Croatian man

 

[scribers]

He’s in his late 30’s early 40’s

 

[Red Rick]

Days like today prove that Mou is simply a guy who went into last year with the attitude, "I'm gonna bet the over on Pogacar every single race", and during a historically great season that will make you look very smart. I bet a bunch of Ronaldo fanboys predicted Portugal to win the 2016 Euros but that doesn't mean they were more knowledgable than experts who did not expect that to happen.

I have no idea what the guys background is but his persona as a cycling oracle was always so nonsensical when all he ever predicted was Pogacar to win whatsver race he enters (except MSR, I'll give him that). If I can tell you what someone will predict a day before he tweets it, how much insight can those tweets really contain?

It's literally just people buying into something stupid because they want to believe, and ignoring every time they are comically wrong.

 

[Pozzovivo]

It's literally just people buying into something stupid because they want to believe, and ignoring every time they are comically wrong.

Well documented bug in the human machine

 

[scribers]

King mou has jumped the shark

 

[theyoungest]

Predicting Pogacar will win a race gets you oracle status pretty fast. The guy wins every race he starts.

Although to be fair to mou, Pogi did change his TT position. The result is not quite what he predicted though (and the next prophecy will be that they've changed it back to the old position, which is obviously what they will do).

 

[scribers]

Well documented bug in the human machine

People also willfully ignore fact when they wish to believe something is not happening to suit their feelings.

Humans are strange critters given to impulses absent of critical thinking evolved over hundreds of thousands of years.