Teams & Riders The "MVP" Mathieu Van der Poel Road Discussion Thread

[Maaaaaaaarten]

A 23 year old CX/MTB rider, who isn't necessarily a sprinter based on his results on the road so far, beating some okayish French (pro)conti sprinters and sprint talents in the sprint, while struggling with a wrist injury, and in the middle of his MTB season, is still pretty decent if you ask me, even if the field in and of itself is a bit underwhelming.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Sarreau isn't that bad tho

Many of these French C-sprinters are actually quite fast. Nice win for Mathieu.

 

[Winnen]

Mathieu posted his prologue Watts on instagram stories. I expected it to be a little bit higher. But I am definitely no expert. I googled his weight and found 75 kg. Data from instagram:

5" 1301 W
10" 1111 W
12" 1077 W
20" 937 W
30" 895 W
1' 750 W
2' 618 W
5' 545 W
6' 523 W

 

[gerundium]

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Mathieu posted his prologue Watts on instagram stories. I expected it to be a little bit higher. But I am definitely no expert. I googled his weight and found 75 kg. Data from instagram:

5" 1301 W
10" 1111 W
12" 1077 W
20" 937 W
30" 895 W
1' 750 W
2' 618 W
5' 545 W
6' 523 W

5' power which is often used as a surrogate for VO2max capabilities here comes out to 7.25 w/kg. that's right in line with the recorded values of thibaut pinot from his 2010-2013 period as referenced here: http://www.fredericgrappe.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/pinot-ppr.pdf

In my opinion that's right in line with his top talent status. From this it looks like he definitely has the engine to make it big on the road as well.

 

[Squire]

Also, the prologue had quite a few corners where he would be slowing down and freewheeling. And even though his wattages accelerating out of them are higher, I reckon his average watts output goes down.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Mathieu posted his prologue Watts on instagram stories. I expected it to be a little bit higher. But I am definitely no expert. I googled his weight and found 75 kg. Data from instagram:

5" 1301 W
10" 1111 W
12" 1077 W
20" 937 W
30" 895 W
1' 750 W
2' 618 W
5' 545 W
6' 523 W

75kg? I highly doubt that. I can't really find much information about his weight and height but I'm seeing Wout Van Aert is listed on many websites at ~187cm and ~72-73kg and Mathieu looks to be a tad shorter and much more slender'. I'd guesstimate ~183cm and ~68kg.

 

[Winnen]

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Mathieu posted his prologue Watts on instagram stories. I expected it to be a little bit higher. But I am definitely no expert. I googled his weight and found 75 kg. Data from instagram:

5" 1301 W
10" 1111 W
12" 1077 W
20" 937 W
30" 895 W
1' 750 W
2' 618 W
5' 545 W
6' 523 W

75kg? I highly doubt that. I can't really find much information about his weight and height but I'm seeing Wout Van Aert is listed on many websites at ~187cm and ~72-73kg and Mathieu looks to be a tad shorter and much more slender'. I'd guesstimate ~183cm and ~68kg.

I had the same feeling. My source was: https://cyclingtips.com/2017/11/mathieu-van-der-poel-is-most-talented-bike-racer-on-planet/

(BTW a nice article, but I am sceptical about the 'most talented ever' thing)

 

[classicomano]

5th today in the hilly stage, but he was struggling all day even getting dropped at some point. Still has a 13 second lead so overall should be in the bag once again.

 

[Derry]

Not involved today, but didn´t need to. He won the overall classification. Nice comeback at the road with a stage win and overall win.

Does anybody know if he will compete in the Dutch nationals?

 

[DNP-Old]

Not involved today, but didn´t need to. He won the overall classification. Nice comeback at the road with a stage win and overall win.

Does anybody know if he will compete in the Dutch nationals?

Yes.

 

[Der Effe]

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Fell hard on his wrist again, cant MTB for 2 weeks but will defend his title on the road in Boucles de la Mayenne in 2 days and after that will ride the Dutch national road championships.

No idea if he has any other plans on the road this season.

Dwars door het Hageland (15-06)
Elfstedenronde (17-06)
Halle-Ingooigem (19-06)

According to the team website he will also ride the Ronde van Limburg on 10/06. Dwars door het Hageland takes place on the 4th of August.

Edit: Dwars door het Hageland is on 15/06, my info was wrong

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

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75kg? I highly doubt that. I can't really find much information about his weight and height but I'm seeing Wout Van Aert is listed on many websites at ~187cm and ~72-73kg and Mathieu looks to be a tad shorter and much more slender'. I'd guesstimate ~183cm and ~68kg.

There is simply no way he weighs 75kg. Maybe him + his bike, lol.

 

[Echoes]

Hey Flo, Wout Van Aert is now heavier than 72/73kg. I seem to remember his saying he was around 76/77kg duing last year's edition of the Tour of Belgium. The data you've found might date from his early years when he was much lighter and perhaps even shorter in height. This being said, I agree it's doubtful that Mathieu weighs 75kg. That's normally too heavy for cyclocross practice. I find it remarkable that Wout can still cross so well with that body weight. :Neutral:

Cheers

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Hey Flo, Wout Van Aert is now heavier than 72/73kg. I seem to remember his saying he was around 76/77kg duing last year's edition of the Tour of Belgium. The data you've found might date from his early years when he was much lighter and perhaps even shorter in height. This being said, I agree it's doubtful that Mathieu weighs 75kg. That's normally too heavy for cyclocross practice. I find it remarkable that Wout can still cross so well with that body weight. :Neutral:

Cheers

If Wout can do it than so can MvP, I'm surprised to find out he's shorter then WvA. Probably because I'm used to seeing them together in CycloX where WvA is always sitting lower/more above his steer so he can get the power out of his thigs and legs where as MvP uses his technical skills more and his back.

 

[Der Effe]

Beat Nacer Bouhanni today in a peloton sprint in de Ronde van Limburg. Not bad.

 

[classicomano]

Not bad indeed. Bouhanni however ...

It wasnt even close.

 

[Der Effe]

It's also kinda sad to see what a marginal rider Adam Blythe has come to be.

 

[jaylew]

It always surprises me a bit what a good bunch sprinter he is. He's won several races that way.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Well Bouhanni has been crap this year anyway so not that surprised

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

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Well Bouhanni has been crap this year anyway so not that surprised

Four wins really isn’t that bad. I mean, yes, the quantity of little French races artificially inflates the win tally of French sprinters, but most sprinters would be reasonably happy with four wins at this point.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

4 crappy wins. In every serious field he has been destroyed.

MvdP is miles ahead of a bad Bouhanni

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

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4 crappy wins. In every serious field he has been destroyed.

MvdP is miles ahead of a bad Bouhanni

I can’t really argue with that. It’s embarrassing to be destroyed like that by a guy who is only road racing as his third job, even if that guy is an obvious super talent,

 

[classicomano]

Say hello to your new Dutch national champion.

 

[Der Effe]

What a guy. Destroyed the entire bunch with his breakaways, then still crushes the remaining peloton with ease in a sprint.

 

[Winnen]

At 55 km he destroyed the peleton with an attack of a few kms. At 40 he goes again with 3 others. Among them is van Poppel who stays in the last wheel. In the last 10 kms they are caught and then he wins the sprint. Awesome!