Go home, rest, take at least 2 or 3 weeks off the bike, and then rebuild for the WCBest he go home and focus on next season.
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Go home, rest, take at least 2 or 3 weeks off the bike, and then rebuild for the WCBest he go home and focus on next season.
Yeah, this is tough for us MVDP fans and tougher for him, obviously. MVDP is a fighter and a champion. He will be back. Let the other stars have their moments now - there will be a reckoning.I called this months ago.
Unlikely.
I called this months ago.
Unlikely.
I'm sure it's not easy on him or his biggest fans. But it might help not being overly dramatic everytime he shows signs of weakness or greatness. This isn't Greek or Roman mythology or old testament. There will not be a reckoning and when he wins it's not because he is the chosen son of Zeus. He simply isn't good enough right now and there are reasons for that as i have been saying for a while.Yeah, this is tough for us MVDP fans and tougher for him, obviously. MVDP is a fighter and a champion. He will be back. Let the other stars have their moments now - there will be a reckoning.
I think MvdP needs to hire Wout's trainer/coach. He seems lost and without direction in his training/racing.
Yeah, definitely better than yesterday. At one point 4 of his teammates dropped and he was still in the peloton. That was already a big improvement compared to yesterday. Let's hope he can at least show something of his class in the second half of this Tour.Came in as 77th at 8 minutes today. Better than I expected. Hoping he improves the next days.
yeah sometimes it seems eerily like the Marianne Vos story.Hopefully he does not dig himself into an overtraining hole
IDK, to me it was completely obvious this was nuts. Giro to Tour is super hard for anyone, even GT freaks of nature who are accustomed to GTs. But if you've never completed a GT, it is madness. And van der Poel rather attacked his Giro. I think he needs more recovery time. It's not like you can ride the Tour easily and we're only a week in.yeah sometimes it seems eerily like the Marianne Vos story.
Logic, I am a FAN - not an analyst or expert - so it is kind've a Greek or Roman mythology (I'm also a Christian so agree it isn't old testament) - a story if you will. I've competed in endurance sport (at a very low level relatively speaking) for over 40 years. I understand periodization - base, build, peak - and I understand the complete chaos that has been MVDP's situation for quite a while now. He gives a huge amount to his fans and at the end of the day I want whatever is best for him. But, the beauty of MVDP and his God-given talent and self-belief is that you never know what might be possible. Would you bet your house on him not winning a stage this TDF?I'm sure it's not easy on him or his biggest fans. But it might help not being overly dramatic everytime he shows signs of weakness or greatness. This isn't Greek or Roman mythology or old testament. There will not be a reckoning and when he wins it's not because he is the chosen son of Zeus. He simply isn't good enough right now and there are reasons for that as i have been saying for a while.
If nothing else, i hope it shows you what other riders have been doing the past couple of years deserves some more respect and isn't as easily replicated as assumed, even for a demi-god.
I would not bet my house on anything. And i fully understand the appeal. I think tactically he is unpredictable but his form (both good and bad) seldom is. And i think you are mixing those.Logic, I am a FAN - not an analyst or expert - so it is kind've a Greek or Roman mythology (I'm also a Christian so agree it isn't old testament) - a story if you will. I've competed in endurance sport (at a very low level relatively speaking) for over 40 years. I understand periodization - base, build, peak - and I understand the complete chaos that has been MVDP's situation for quite a while now. He gives a huge amount to his fans and at the end of the day I want whatever is best for him. But, the beauty of MVDP and his God-given talent and self-belief is that you never know what might be possible. Would you bet your house on him not winning a stage this TDF?
I don't believe in him getting better, but he might not get much worse, while most of the peloton will as the Tour goes on. So who knows.Come on Logic, you wouldn't have bet your house on Wout today after the peloton sat up? I probably would have against the current field - no MVDP or ALPH. As a fan, it's tough watching a lesser MVDP in races that were tailor made for him - i.e. the World Championships last year and stages like 4,5,6,8 in this TDF. Still, at this point I see no harm him staying in the fight. He doesn't have to worry about the MTB, and has plenty of time to rest and get ready for the WC's. Also, if his body switches on (kind've like he did on that stage at TA in fall 2020 after a tough spell), I see him winning 10, 14, and 16. You have to believe, brother.
I'm sure it's not easy on him or his biggest fans. But it might help not being overly dramatic everytime he shows signs of weakness or greatness. This isn't Greek or Roman mythology or old testament. There will not be a reckoning and when he wins it's not because he is the chosen son of Zeus. He simply isn't good enough right now and there are reasons for that as i have been saying for a while.
If nothing else, i hope it shows you what other riders have been doing the past couple of years deserves some more respect and isn't as easily replicated as assumed, even for a demi-god.
I am one of the biggest vdP fans out there,, at least probably in the USA (Senna maybe on par)...and I have to admit I am a bit jealous of how WvA has surpassed MvdP at this moment. I don't know if he has a better training program, better team, better makeup, or what, but it's interesting to see this split in their careers right now. We can say, oh but wait until this or that, but at the moment, 7/2022, this is how their careers have developed.
Having said that, based on what I've seen so far, they DO go through these periods of one clearly being stronger than the other, but for certain it's tilted in WvA's side right now.
Better training program and better discipline is what has made Wout greater than MvdP...no lies just facts.I am one of the biggest vdP fans out there,, at least probably in the USA (Senna maybe on par)...and I have to admit I am a bit jealous of how WvA has surpassed MvdP at this moment. I don't know if he has a better training program, better team, better makeup, or what, but it's interesting to see this split in their careers right now. We can say, oh but wait until this or that, but at the moment, 7/2022, this is how their careers have developed.
Having said that, based on what I've seen so far, they DO go through these periods of one clearly being stronger than the other, but for certain it's tilted in WvA's side right now.