That's alot of winning, now. Tadej might be paying attention to this level of form from his best cobble buddy.
I don't think he cares. If he's good enough he'll ein and if he isn't he won't. Regardless of what MvdP does
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I think it’s the other way around. If MVDP is good enough, Pogi doesn’t win, if MVDP isn’t he will. At least that was the case last year.
The last time that was true in RVV was 2022. Anything else is just copium.
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RVV 2025, unless you think MVDP showed he was at a similar level as WVA and Pedersen during spring classics of course.
It's more like there are 3 monuments that only those 2 can win, and it depends on the other
And since you've mentioned RVV, Pogacar won because he was the best. MvdP was clearly a 2nd best but lost a sprint, it happens. In 2022 Pogacar was at least 2nd strongest and finished 4th
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VVDP's peak cobbled classics form was 2024.
In 2025 he was ill in the Flanders run up, and after Paris Roubaix said he struggled and it felt like he was hitting every cobble, compared to the previous year where he felt he was gliding accross them.
In 2025 he was ill in the Flanders run up, and after Paris Roubaix said he struggled and it felt like he was hitting every cobble, compared to the previous year where he felt he was gliding accross them.
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He lost the chance to remain in contention all the way to the velodrome because of his crash. Don't think anyone would challenge that. I don't think most would consider it being a done deal that Pogacar would win after that lap and a half.
Not crashing is a part of cycling, even road cycling. He had 2 crashes due to not being as good technically as his opposition in Strade & Roubaix.
Road fans don't seem to understand this part of cycling.......
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Yes he was. Why are you rewriting history?
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Pogi lost PR: first, because of his crash. Second, because MvP paced his gap until Pogi eased off. Third, because there was no need for a sprint.
Who would've won that sprint?
The vast majority of fans have never ridden a bike until they crashed, except maybe as youngsters. Crashing at race speed has to be experienced to understand the effect, no?
I just re watched an edited version of the coverage after the crash up to 20km or so and did not see a flat. He was adding on to the gap at that time so it's possible he had time for a quick change with his team car right there. I'll watch the rest to confirm for my own memory.
MVDP had a flat on Carrefour de l'Arbre. He didn't know the gap and couldn't communicate with the team car (radio not working) but the bike change was relatively quick and the gap was already over a minute at that point and wasn't much affected. Pogi also had a bike change. These all came after the race had essentially been decided.
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I love MvdP huge fan. Impossible not to like him, for me. Hes as close to perfection as it gets in RVV type races imo. That being said, even he has almost next to no chance vs. Pogacar in RVV now.
I would argue that people who watch the WC in the fashion it unfolds, etc, dont quite understand what they’re watching if they still dont get it. Its a simple matter of aerobic respiration and fatigue resistance.
I would argue that people who watch the WC in the fashion it unfolds, etc, dont quite understand what they’re watching if they still dont get it. Its a simple matter of aerobic respiration and fatigue resistance.
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That said, it might still be the singular race im looking forward to the most, because historically its as peak as it can be with those two battling there. MvdP should swallow his pride and change his tactics, though.
As for MSR and PR, hes rightfully the favourite (tho I expect he’ll need to be better than ever this time around in PR to win, Pogi will come better prepared throughout after his student trip last year, much like his RVV 22 to 23) and I expect MvdP to win all the other cobbled races in the fashion we’ve grown used to.
As for MSR and PR, hes rightfully the favourite (tho I expect he’ll need to be better than ever this time around in PR to win, Pogi will come better prepared throughout after his student trip last year, much like his RVV 22 to 23) and I expect MvdP to win all the other cobbled races in the fashion we’ve grown used to.
Pogacar wasn't there in 2024.
Obviously, it's easier to ride without anyone pushing you.
In 2023, Pogacar was superior RVV. In 2024, VDP was racing "alone" , so it's normal to ride more comfortably.
In 2023 he wasn't sick. Pogacar is superior in De Ronde.
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Neither MVDP nor Pogacar was the best version of themselves in 2023, although Pogi was pretty tops pre-LBL crash.
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