The official Great Bauke Mollema thread

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Strong finish in this Tour. He was strong on La Toussuire and Alpe. Finishes 7th behind 5 gt winners + Gesink

 

[Jagartrott]

Mollema - the only guy in the top-10 never to attack. Just follow wheels and look god-awful on a bike - three weeks long. Congrats.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

What a horrible performance by Mollema this Tour.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

He actually did attack though.

 

[DBotero]

Good Tour for Mollema.Despite the fact he struggled a lot of times he finished very strong.His 7th place looks really good considering the guys situated in front of him in the GC.

 

[Billie]

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He actually did attack though.

most pathetic attack of the tour in cauterets. The risk he took there was 0,001

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

He attacked all the same. Also in the beginning of some of the Alpe stages he attacked, but he was literally told by Sky he would get no space.

 

[Bushman]

The most boring gc rider in the world?

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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The most boring gc rider in the world?

Since VDB is no longer a GC rider, I would say yes.

 

[DBotero]

Mollema doesn't need to act like Contador/Froome/Quintana/Nibali because he's not at those people level.He's doing his best with the talent his got,boring i suppose for some people.But nothing surprise me anymore around here.Valverde was lambasted here every day and even after he's got his podium.TVG was criticized too for not attacking,nobody considering that maybe he was already riding at his max just to hold on.A lot of cyclists are boring these days,people should stop watching,no need to punish themselves with this bore fest.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Mollema doesn't need to act like Contador/Froome/Quintana/Nibali because he's not at those people level.He's doing his best with the talent his got,boring i suppose for some people.But nothing surprise me anymore around here.Valverde was lambasted here every day and even after he's got his podium.TVG was criticized too for not attacking,nobody considering that maybe he was already riding at his max just to hold on.A lot of cyclists are boring these days,people should stop watching,no need to punish themselves with this bore fest.

TJVG and Valverde's riding is understandable. After all, they're riding for a podium. Mollema is riding for a 7th place. Why not drop the GC and go for stage wins? He's obviously among the strongest riders when he's 7th in the GC, so he could potentially win a few.

 

[Jagartrott]

I repeat: everyone in the top-10 attacked, some of them multiple times from long range.
Mollema followed wheels. He never once attempted to be in an early break.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

You're wrong. He did attempt to get into the early break on multiple occassions in the last week even. But he was brought back each time and literally told by Sky he had no chance, they would not allow him to get in.

It's nice to say stuff, but if you're flat out wrong then stop saying something.

 

[DBotero]

Mollema doesn't need to act like Contador/Froome/Quintana/Nibali because he's not at those people level.He's doing his best with the talent his got,boring i suppose for some people.But nothing surprise me anymore around here.Valverde was lambasted here every day and even after he's got his podium.TVG was criticized too for not attacking,nobody considering that maybe he was already riding at his max just to hold on.A lot of cyclists are boring these days,people should stop watching,no need to punish themselves with this bore fest.

TJVG and Valverde's riding is understandable. After all, they're riding for a podium. Mollema is riding for a 7th place. Why not drop the GC and go for stage wins? He's obviously among the strongest riders when he's 7th in the GC, so he could potentially win a few.

I think top 10 especially in TDF is still more important than a stage,even 2 stage wins which might come or not.He was supposed to be the GC guy here and he acted like this.J.Rod switched to stage/KOM after he was out of contention,same with Pinot.The team wouldn't have allowed Mollema to go stage hunting anyway.

 

[Pentacycle]

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What a horrible performance by Mollema this Tour.

Mollema's performance is not horrible, but you could argue that the end result is not inspiring at all. If he'd raced like one of the Frenchies in current the top 16, he might have had a stage ánd a good GC.

 

[Kwibus]

He said that if you are in the top 10 at the end of 2 weeks you are not going to intentionally lose time so you can go in to a breakaway. Would be silly to let go of so much work.
He also added he simply couldnt do more then this and what DT said is true, he tried the last days, but was anot allowed to go by Sky.

Also if in one of the upcoming GTs he loses a bucket load of time due to bad luck/crash then he'll go stagehunting, but ending up 7th in a Gt brings a lot of value for him. Can't deny that.
It sure wasnt inspiring though...

 

[Flamin]

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The most boring gc rider in the world?

Since VDB is no longer a GC rider, I would say yes.

Even if VDB2 still was one, Mollema beats him.

 

[Billie]

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The most boring gc rider in the world?

Since VDB is no longer a GC rider, I would say yes.

Even if VDB2 still was one, Mollema beats him.

Even Van den broeck regularly attacked. In Giro 08, Tour 09, Tour 10 and Tour 12. His boring name mainly comes from the fully focusing on one race

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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The most boring gc rider in the world?

Since VDB is no longer a GC rider, I would say yes.

Even if VDB2 still was one, Mollema beats him.

Even Van den broeck regularly attacked. In Giro 08, Tour 09, Tour 10 and Tour 12. His boring name mainly comes from the fully focusing on one race

His attacks lasted 5 seconds, then he stopped and let himself get reeled back in.

 

[Arredondo]

Mollema doesn't need to act like Contador/Froome/Quintana/Nibali because he's not at those people level.He's doing his best with the talent his got,boring i suppose for some people.But nothing surprise me anymore around here.Valverde was lambasted here every day and even after he's got his podium.TVG was criticized too for not attacking,nobody considering that maybe he was already riding at his max just to hold on.A lot of cyclists are boring these days,people should stop watching,no need to punish themselves with this bore fest.

TJVG and Valverde's riding is understandable. After all, they're riding for a podium. Mollema is riding for a 7th place. Why not drop the GC and go for stage wins? He's obviously among the strongest riders when he's 7th in the GC, so he could potentially win a few.

I think top 10 especially in TDF is still more important than a stage,even 2 stage wins which might come or not.He was supposed to be the GC guy here and he acted like this.J.Rod switched to stage/KOM after he was out of contention,same with Pinot.The team wouldn't have allowed Mollema to go stage hunting anyway.

So you rather finish 8th in GC then winning two stages?

 

[PremierAndrew]

Mollema doesn't need to act like Contador/Froome/Quintana/Nibali because he's not at those people level.He's doing his best with the talent his got,boring i suppose for some people.But nothing surprise me anymore around here.Valverde was lambasted here every day and even after he's got his podium.TVG was criticized too for not attacking,nobody considering that maybe he was already riding at his max just to hold on.A lot of cyclists are boring these days,people should stop watching,no need to punish themselves with this bore fest.

TJVG and Valverde's riding is understandable. After all, they're riding for a podium. Mollema is riding for a 7th place. Why not drop the GC and go for stage wins? He's obviously among the strongest riders when he's 7th in the GC, so he could potentially win a few.

I think top 10 especially in TDF is still more important than a stage,even 2 stage wins which might come or not.He was supposed to be the GC guy here and he acted like this.J.Rod switched to stage/KOM after he was out of contention,same with Pinot.The team wouldn't have allowed Mollema to go stage hunting anyway.

So you rather finish 8th in GC then winning two stages?

Don't get me wrong, but it's disappointing to see Purito not even win the KOM when he was clearly targetting it, and there were more than enough successful breakaways on summit finishes to prevent the GC contenders from taking it. Then again, if his poor form is a result of saving himself for a Vuelta where he has a real chance, I'd be happy with that

 

[Flamin]

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The most boring gc rider in the world?

Since VDB is no longer a GC rider, I would say yes.

Even if VDB2 still was one, Mollema beats him.

Even Van den broeck regularly attacked. In Giro 08, Tour 09, Tour 10 and Tour 12. His boring name mainly comes from the fully focusing on one race

His attacks lasted 5 seconds, then he stopped and let himself get reeled back in.

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[Jagartrott]

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You're wrong. He did attempt to get into the early break on multiple occassions in the last week even. But he was brought back each time and literally told by Sky he had no chance, they would not allow him to get in.

It's nice to say stuff, but if you're flat out wrong then stop saying something.

I've followed every stage the last week from the beginning, I've never seen him mentioned on the ticker.
His whole team (bar Cancellara) was incredibly absent too. Arredondo for example - a ghost.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

You might have followed the stages, you clearly didn't watch properly. There were several attempts from Mollema to go into the early break, not one lasted long because it sparked an immediate reaction from other GC contender and even Sky itself.

You cannot attack when you're not allowed to attack, unless you have such a surplus in climbing ability that you can actually escape a controlling train, like Quintana, Valverde, Nibali. Mollema can't attack when Poels, Porte or Thomas are riding full force.

 

[Billie]

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You might have followed the stages, you clearly didn't watch properly. There were several attempts from Mollema to go into the early break, not one lasted long because it sparked an immediate reaction from other GC contender and even Sky itself.

please tell me where and when.