The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[dgodave]

The period goes inside of the quotation marks, not outside. Dang...

That rule should be changed. It doesnt make "sense".
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[Susan Westemeyer]

Actually, I think the period outside of the quotation marks is correct in this instance. As I learned it, if the period is part of the quote, it goes within the quotation marks. If it is not part of the quote, then outside."

For example: the quote is "This is correct."

Susan said, "This is correct."

Susan said that this was "correct".

Susan (who is of course always correct)

 

[dgodave]

Susan (who is of course always correct)

I defer to you, as you are the "writer".
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[Anonymous]

I defer to you, as you are the "writer".

classic.

 

[Anonymous]

Actually, I think the period outside of the quotation marks is correct in this instance. As I learned it, if the period is part of the quote, it goes within the quotation marks. If it is not part of the quote, then outside."

For example: the quote is "This is correct."

Susan said, "This is correct."

Susan said that this was "correct".

Susan (who is of course always correct)

No, it is question marks and exclamation points that are either, but periods are inside.
http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/quotes.asp
http://grammartips.homestead.com/inside.html

...however, I did just see that the AMERICAN rule is always inside unless it is a number at the end, but British standards are different. I am not British, but if Speedway is, then he has the choice. I don't.

 

[ExRower]

maybe it's time one of yous looked it up Strunk & White

 

[rolfrae]

No, it is question marks and exclamation points that are either, but periods are inside.

In US English usage you are correct, however, in UK English usage Susan is correct.

 

[Anonymous]

In US English usage you are correct, however, in UK English usage Susan is correct.

Yea, I just caught that and modified my post. I don't know what Speedway is in terms of nationality, just that whichever he claims does not claim him.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

In US English usage you are correct, however, in UK English usage Susan is correct.

How bizarre. I learned that in the US.

Susan

 

[ImmaculateKadence]

Actually, I think the period outside of the quotation marks is correct in this instance. As I learned it, if the period is part of the quote, it goes within the quotation marks. If it is not part of the quote, then outside."

For example: the quote is "This is correct."

Susan said, "This is correct."

Susan said that this was "correct".

Susan (who is of course always correct)

As I learned it, periods and commas always go inside of quotations, but we're talking grammar here; it's not universal. They have committees of numerous professors and conferences that last for days to discuss this stuff, and it's constantly changing from year to year and from style to style. I learned a formal scholarly style while in school. It may be different in technical and/or jounalistic styles.

Damn the Modern Language Association of America

Not mention we're from different countries here.

 

[Berzin]

So what is Armstrong's (AKA "The Human Bloatation Device") next race?

Does he have anything between now and the Spring Classics, like a Belgian kermesse or two?

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

I love the Lance excuse that he's just getting in some racing miles for training. They're not "racing" miles if you're not actually racing, skippy. Not sure what exactly Lance got out of the Criterium International other than another beatdown from an allergy-suffering Contador. So, Contador's suffering from allergies and still puts 3:39 into Cartstrong in what, 5k or so?

Yeah, lots of positives for Lance from the CI. Gallopin, Roll, and Watson are tossing one big turd salad.

 

[Hugh Januss]

How bizarre. I learned that in the US.

Susan

What if the single word you are "quoting" is not conveniently located next to the period? I think when you are using quotation marks to "highlight" a word the quotation marks go around that word alone and don't include any other words or punctuation marks, even if that word is at the end of the "sentence".

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

What if the single word you are "quoting" is not conveniently located next to the period? I think when you are using quotation marks to "highlight" a word the quotation marks go around that word alone and don't include any other words or punctuation marks, even if that word is at the end of the "sentence".

If the word appears in the middle of a sentence, there would of course be no period. And I don't use quotations marks to "highlight" a word -- in my serious writing at any rate. But you are correct as to the use of the quotation marks.

Susan

 

[Publicus]

I love the Lance excuse that he's just getting in some racing miles for training. They're not "racing" miles if you're not actually racing, skippy. Not sure what exactly Lance got out of the Criterium International other than another beatdown from an allergy-suffering Contador. So, Contador's suffering from allergies and still puts 3:39 into Cartstrong in what, 5k or so?

Yeah, lots of positives for Lance from the CI. Gallopin, Roll, and Watson are tossing one big turd salad.

My thoughts exactly. It's March for everyone, but he's not able to stay with the main contenders now, what makes him think he will be able to do so in July when they are stronger, have hundreds (if not thousands) of kilometers of actual racing in their legs? It just boggles the mind that journalist who assume he's not doping aren't scratching their heads at his training logic.

 

[Publicus]

If the word appears in the middle of a sentence, there would of course be no period. And I don't use quotations marks to "highlight" a word -- in my serious writing at any rate. But you are correct as to the use of the quotation marks.

Susan

Um, perhaps you should take this to the Cafe? I kid, I kid--couldn't resist the opportunity to moderate the moderator.

 

[MacRoadie]

If the word appears in the middle of a sentence, there would of course be no period. And I don't use quotations marks to "highlight" a word -- in my serious writing at any rate. But you are correct as to the use of the quotation marks.

Susan

I can't wait for the raging debate over the proper use of serial commas.

 

[Bag_O_Wallet]

My thoughts exactly. It's March for everyone, but he's not able to stay with the main contenders now, what makes him think he will be able to do so in July when they are stronger, have hundreds (if not thousands) of kilometers of actual racing in their legs? It just boggles the mind that journalist who assume he's not doping aren't scratching their heads at his training logic.

Have any journalists asked Armstrong what has happend to his old template? The one where he never got too far out of shape, and showed up in the Classics, usually at the Amstel Gold Race, and was strong enough to either animate or challenge for the win?

Why stray from the formula if you think you can win?

 

[fatandfast]

Have any journalists asked Armstrong what has happend to his old template? The one where he never got too far out of shape, and showed up in the Classics, usually at the Amstel Gold Race, and was strong enough to either animate or challenge for the win?

Why stray from the formula if you think you can win?

Age,science and money,If 100% of his US press coverage is going to come from the TDF(prep and result) why not turn his world into a one race season. Why if US and lots of English speaking press wants to treat every other race as a warm up for the tour ,why swim up stream? Watching him keep everybody in check by saying it's only March over and over is serving him well. He said at his post race news conference a bunch of really sweet things about French cycling,probably trying to ensure people spill cold water on him vs peepee as he is climbing in July's summer heat. Never was a fan of his but watching him cash in on all the attention is really amazing. We just had a kid get gold at the worlds but all the coverage is Lance otb in France.

 

[kurtinsc]

Age,science and money,If 100% of his US press coverage is going to come from the TDF(prep and result) why not turn his world into a one race season. Why if US and lots of English speaking press wants to treat every other race as a warm up for the tour ,why swim up stream? Watching him keep everybody in check by saying it's only March over and over is serving him well. He said at his post race news conference a bunch of really sweet things about French cycling,probably trying to ensure people spill cold water on him vs peepee as he is climbing in July's summer heat. Never was a fan of his but watching him cash in on all the attention is really amazing. We just had a kid get gold at the worlds but all the coverage is Lance otb in France.

The average person who watches ESPN in the US doesn't even know track cycling exist. Pretty much all they know about cycling is the Tour de France. A majority probably don't know who Alberto Contador is... but they all know Lance.

All you can do is shrug your shoulders and be happy with whatever cycling coverage we're able to get in the states.

 

[Hugh Januss]

The average person who watches ESPN in the US doesn't even know track cycling exist. Pretty much all they know about cycling is the Tour de France. A majority probably don't know who Alberto Contador is... but they all know Lance.

All you can do is shrug your shoulders and be happy with whatever cycling coverage we're able to get in the states.

True for the most part, but if they watched Versus last summer they do know who Contador is. He is that not very bright Spanish kid who couldn't follow the team directives and wound up screwing up Astana's chances of sweeping the podium.

 

[Jonathan]

True for the most part, but if they watched Versus last summer they do know who Contador is. He is that not very bright Spanish kid who couldn't follow the team directives and wound up screwing up Astana's chances of sweeping the podium.

The kid who thought there's an 'I' in 'team'. But there isn't. Teams are group efforts, there is no one person all-important, its about what the group does together. Only by looking after eachother does a team deserve to be called that: a team.

Armstrong knows that.

 

[Publicus]

The kid who thought there's an 'I' in 'team'. But there isn't. Teams are group efforts, there is no one person all-important, its about what the group does together. Only by looking after eachother does a team deserve to be called that: a team.

Armstrong knows that.

Um, are you serious? Either you are trying to be very funny or you are serious, but it's not clear....

 

[ImmaculateKadence]

There is an "I" in win. Contador knows that.

 

[Oldman]

The kid who thought there's an 'I' in 'team'. But there isn't. Teams are group efforts, there is no one person all-important, its about what the group does together. Only by looking after eachother does a team deserve to be called that: a team.

Armstrong knows that.

There's no "I" in t e a m. There is, however; a "U" in flunky...that "U" was you, Lance. Or should have been.