The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[Big GMaC]

Jan would have 5 TDF victories and would be a legend.

In the Beer halls and Nighclubs of East German Jan is a legend

 

[Paco_P]

Then everyone saying this comeback was a disaster. .

Your're right. We can celebrate that he was riding cleaner than usual.

 

[oncehadhair]

I am a man!!!!

How can we be sure?

 

[hrotha]

I feel as if someone just told me the Easter bunny isnt real, hes the reason I know what maillot jaune, peleton means. The reason I look forward to hearing the voices of Phil Ligget and Paul Sherwin in July. The reason I will continue to follow the sport that he brought me to and that Contador/Schleck will make me stay. He is an inspiration and I join his belief in never giving up no matter the circumstances.

I think you made it a bit too obvious with this post.

 

[clearhop]

the man had 4 accidents for goodness sakes. Then everyone saying this comeback was a disaster. The prologue time trial shows us he was ready to kick ***, look Contador in the eye and accelerate with him in the Alps and the Pyrnees. But we were never given that chance, nor did we have to see Lance dig down deep. Stage 16 shown us that he still had it, and if he didnt get caught up in accident, who knows what would of happened. We were robbed of a Armstrong, Contador, Schleck showdown in the mountains.

You are a troll AICM £5.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

That's enough, folks. Stop it now. Return to the topic, if this thread has one. If not, then just leave it alone.

Susn

 

[Jeanne]

maybe LA topic shouldn`t be allowed anymore

this one almost caused a heart attack when I only read the title; WTF another comeback?!

 

[indurain666]

That's enough, folks. Stop it now. Return to the topic, if this thread has one. If not, then just leave it alone.

Susn

I haven't found it yet

 

[eztarget]

the man had 4 accidents for goodness sakes. Then everyone saying this comeback was a disaster. The prologue time trial shows us he was ready to kick ***, look Contador in the eye and accelerate with him in the Alps and the Pyrnees. But we were never given that chance, nor did we have to see Lance dig down deep. Stage 16 shown us that he still had it, and if he didnt get caught up in accident, who knows what would of happened. We were robbed of a Armstrong, Contador, Schleck showdown in the mountains.

Come on. I'm a Lance fan but the guy needed to stay retired. IMO he tarnished his image by coming back. It was just like watching Michael Jordan in a Washington Wizards uniform. He was a shell of his former self and embarrassing. A lot of great athletes have all the talent in the world but there biggest challenge is controlling their egos and knowing when to get out. Very few do. Wayne Gretzky, Ray Bourque, John Elway come to mind on the list of guys that knew when to quit (and stay retired). Ray Bourque and Elway bowed out on top. LA had that opportunity and ruined it by coming back.

Michael Jordan, Johnny Unitas, Fran Tarkenton, Evander Holyfield, Larry Holmes, Bjorn Borg, Lance Armstrong ... and a lot more. All guilty of chasing youth.

I know people were all over LA this time saying his was off the dope so he couldn't compete anymore but the main reason was age. I'm 42 and realize I can't do what I did when I was 35 let alone 25 anymore. The body just doesn't recover like it did when I was younger. I remember right after Ray Bourque finally won a Stanley Cup after chasing it for over 22 years. A reporter in the locker room asked him if he wanted to come back for ONE more year to defend the Cup. His response was perfect. He said, "I'm 40 years old and just cannot do this anymore. My body takes too long between games to recover and it wouldn't be fair to my team, or the fans."

Even without the crashes and flat tires there was no way LA was keeping up with the youth of AS and AC in the moutains. Just no way. It basically took all the energy he had to almost win a stage. One only need to look at the easy flat final TT. A thing LA used to dominate. He was horrible or more like he was 38 and looked it.

I really wish he had just let 2005 be the final chapter in his cycling legacy. It had the perfect finish. Now 2010 looks like that horrible sequel you regret going to see at the movies.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Just because Lance retired in 2005 doesn't mean karma did.

 

[Seattleallstar]

Come on. I'm a Lance fan but the guy needed to stay retired. IMO he tarnished his image by coming back. It was just like watching Michael Jordan in a Washington Wizards uniform. He was a shell of his former self and embarrassing. A lot of great athletes have all the talent in the world but there biggest challenge is controlling their egos and knowing when to get out. Very few do. Wayne Gretzky, Ray Bourque, John Elway come to mind on the list of guys that knew when to quit (and stay retired). Ray Bourque and Elway bowed out on top. LA had that opportunity and ruined it by coming back.

Michael Jordan, Johnny Unitas, Fran Tarkenton, Evander Holyfield, Larry Holmes, Bjorn Borg, Lance Armstrong ... and a lot more. All guilty of chasing youth.

I know people were all over LA this time saying his was off the dope so he couldn't compete anymore but the main reason was age. I'm 42 and realize I can't do what I did when I was 35 let alone 25 anymore. The body just doesn't recover like it did when I was younger. I remember right after Ray Bourque finally won a Stanley Cup after chasing it for over 22 years. A reporter in the locker room asked him if he wanted to come back for ONE more year to defend the Cup. His response was perfect. He said, "I'm 40 years old and just cannot do this anymore. My body takes too long between games to recover and it wouldn't be fair to my team, or the fans."

Even without the crashes and flat tires there was no way LA was keeping up with the youth of AS and AC in the moutains. Just no way. It basically took all the energy he had to almost win a stage. One only need to look at the easy flat final TT. A thing LA used to dominate. He was horrible or more like he was 38 and looked it.

I really wish he had just let 2005 be the final chapter in his cycling legacy. It had the perfect finish. Now 2010 looks like that horrible sequel you regret going to see at the movies.

I totally disagree, because those things happened so the question really cant be answered. Lance was never the most talented, he was the best prepared mentally and physically. He could push himself mentally to defeat more talented riders. If Lance had any chance for Yellow during those mountain stages, im sure as hell he would of least given Contador and Schleck something to think about. But we really wont know, he was only as good as he pushed himself to be. The cobbles didnt break him, it was the 3 accidents a few stages later that did him in. He rode like a madman when he fell on the cobbles. If anything Stage 16 shows he had it, and we really wont know what happened had he not gotten into those accidents.

The prologue time trial and Stage 16 were enough to convince me.

 

[Seattleallstar]

Lance at the Vuelta a España

I wouldnt mind seeing hope ride there and winning. He could still make history by being the first American to win. Id love to see him ***** slap Contador in the race by zooming past him during Stages 14-16. The only problem is I dont see a Team Radio Shack anywhere listed in the race

 

[theyoungest]

I wouldnt mind seeing hope ride there and winning. He could still make history by being the first American to win. Id love to see him ***** slap Contador in the race by zooming past him during Stages 14-16. The only problem is I dont see a Team Radio Shack anywhere listed in the race

That's because they didn't get an invite. Lance's cycling career in Europe is over. Now move on.

 

[Deagol]

LOL.

This would be even harder since AC won't be there either.
(kicking myself for responding to Troll thread)

 

[MacRoadie]

I totally disagree, because those things happened so the question really cant be answered. Lance was never the most talented, he was the best prepared mentally and physically. He could push himself mentally to defeat more talented riders. If Lance had any chance for Yellow during those mountain stages, im sure as hell he would of least given Contador and Schleck something to think about. But we really wont know, he was only as good as he pushed himself to be. The cobbles didnt break him, it was the 3 accidents a few stages later that did him in. He rode like a madman when he fell on the cobbles. If anything Stage 16 shows he had it, and we really wont know what happened had he not gotten into those accidents.

The prologue time trial and Stage 16 were enough to convince me.

Three words: Oh... My... God...

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

Not bloody likely. First, he's had his fill of having his tooches kicked. Second, he's only ever competed in one of the other Grand Tours. Third, it's been years since's entered anything in the remaining season after the TdF ended.

 

[Seattleallstar]

Jan would have 5 TDF victories and would be a legend.

Jan would of found a way to lose, Kloden, Basso, Sastre, Periro would of probably eeked out 1 or 2 if there was no Lance

 

[Barrus]

I wouldnt mind seeing hope ride there and winning. He could still make history by being the first American to win. Id love to see him ***** slap Contador in the race by zooming past him during Stages 14-16. The only problem is I dont see a Team Radio Shack anywhere listed in the race

they haven't been invited and even if they were, Lance was not on one of the early sign in sheets, meaning that he would nog be allowed to race there

@ deagol, to be honest I don't think this is a troll, but an uninformed american fan who does not really now that many cyclist beyond LA, and still believes in the myth. What I gather from other threads is that he wants to inform himself more about cycling and get to know more about, and watch more races, so unlike many other new members I'm currently giving this one the benefit of the doubt

 

[BYOP88]

I wouldnt mind seeing hope ride there and winning. He could still make history by being the first American to win. Id love to see him ***** slap Contador in the race by zooming past him during Stages 14-16. The only problem is I dont see a Team Radio Shack anywhere listed in the race

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

If this forum has a "post of the year" then we have a winner.

 

[Seattleallstar]

they haven't been invited and even if they were, Lance was not on one of the early sign in sheets, meaning that he would nog be allowed to race there

@ deagol, to be honest I don't think this is a troll, but an uninformed american fan who does not really now that many cyclist beyond LA, and still believes in the myth. What I gather from other threads is that he wants to inform himself more about cycling and get to know more about, and watch more races, so unlike many other new members I'm currently giving this one the benefit of the doubt

thanks, I have been a fan of cycling since 1998 though and still learning & understanding the sport.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

There is a point when it's impossible to ask things of a rider. Such as Armstrong zooming past Contador.
He's already having trouble zooming past John Gadret as it is

Iif you want to put your hope on another American, look at Teejay Van Garderen for the moment. 3rd in the Dauphiné and a future prospect. Give him a bit more time, 2 to 3 years, and it won't take long before he's up there in the Grand Tours.

 

[Train in Spain]

OK, a naive and cringeworthy post but beyond Lance it's a shame that RadioShack won't be there.

Why, for no other reason that Chris Horner is bang in form, would probably have been designated team leader and the Queen stage is in the area where he lives and trains for several months of the year (Denia, Costa Blanca). He was really looking forward to it, could maybe have got a Grand Tour podium spot to add to his Palmares.

 

[Barrus]

thanks, I have been a fan of cycling since 1998 though and still learning & understanding the sport.

But really you should find some other rider to be a fan of, or even better a team, that way you can follow them and their changes, success and failures, while learning more about the sport and the other riders. Best is to pick one of the pro-tour or major pro-continental teams, as these are most often, practically always, at the big races. Also see what kind of local racing there is in your area and go see that.

For the Vuelta, if you want to root for American riders, I myself would say HTC, as they will take along a great young prospect Tejay van Garderen, who we'll probably hear a lot of in coming years

Also a lot of interesting riders will be at the vuelta, some of whom don't regularly ride outside of Spain. Such as Xacobeo Galicia and Andalucia - Cajasur . Many also ride more interestingly than the LA-teams, a lot more aggressive riding.

 

[Oldman]

Three words: Oh... My... God...

Hey! This is going on in my neighborhood. Don't feed the beast, please.

 

[TopCarbon]

I will look forward to watching the Vuelta without any signs of Lance. So happy this Tour is over. I wish people would stop asking me how he did. Cant they read a paper or look it up themselves.