The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[cotterpin]

40 sec

If I remember correctly Frank S. finished 40sec behind Douchestrong which is how much Astana beat Saxo Bank by in the TTT.
But what is up with cc? that guy needs help getting his face unstuck from Pharmstrong's chamois!

 

[Murray]

i personally think the collarbone helped him with his form. carbon crank, lance was not the third best rider, he would of finished about 5th by my estimates without the ttt. This years tour's ttt was far too descisive.

Actually, Lance WAS the third best rider... that's why he placed... third.

 

[Carboncrank]

Sorry I missed so much. The answer is a qualified yes. It was the biggest race I could get into as an amateur and your boy was in it. I finished ahead of him. I was more than double his age and older than he is now. Does that qualify me as an authority-NO. I was asking what expertise suggests that no rider could win the Tour after sustaining a broken collarbone in the same season.
By the way...I was never questioning the sizable task that LA took on returning to the GTs. I was questioning the constant deification that generates from his publicity machine...I think that's what people were originally questioning. Seriously-I wasn't looking to start a shiiteystorm over this; just voicing my frustration over the level of self promotion and lack of respect for his competitors.

I've learned that Coppi won the tour 54 years ago after a collarbone injury, but I don't know when it happened.
I learned that Merckx won it 39 years ago, 8 or 9 months after being injured. He also wons some spring races, which he wouldn't have even been in if he'd been injured March 23rd. Would he have won the Giro too that year? I don't think so but that's debatable.
It's cool that you got to race at that level. I'd love to hear more. I never got to that level.
I believe that in order to win the tour most years you have to make it the focus of your year and if anything goes wrong with that, way more often than not you won't win. That's all I have been saying. History certainly proves it true. There are many stories of tour contenders that had illness or injury ruin the focus of their training in such a way that they failed. Many many more cases of that than cases of guys who had a metal plate and a dozen screws inserted at the end of March and went on to win the tour.
As far as self promotion goes I see the press coming to him way more than I see him going to the press. He seems to me to be reasonable, and cogent in every interview and more frank in his opinions than he really needs to be. I think that's a good thing.
I'd like to know why you think he doesn't respect his competitors. I see pictures and video all the time of him in engaging conversations with the riders before races. I've speed search through most of the pre race stuff for the tour down under and saw him talking amiable with Evans, Hincape, Valverde and others. Nobody shuns him. Nobody walks or turns away.
Of course, I assume you're talking about things outside the races themselves as my view is that once the race starts all bets are off (outside team of course).

 

[Carboncrank]

i personally think the collarbone helped him

I don't have anybody on ingore but I do have a "stupid" list.
You are on it.
Race radio, Señor_Contador and Publicus are on a "stupid infantile" list.

 

[Ripper]

I don't have anybody on ingore but I do have a "stupid" list.
You are on it.
Race radio, Señor_Contador and Publicus are on a "stupid infantile" list.

Hmm, the calming breaths are not working. Perhaps a soothing warm soak in some bath salts and lavender oils?

When all else fails, massage can work wonders

 

[Race Radio]

I don't have anybody on ingore but I do have a "stupid" list.
You are on it.
Race radio, Señor_Contador and Publicus are on a "stupid infantile" list.

Proud to be part of Team ***.

Don't you have to go to bed? Tomorrow is a school day and your mom is going to be angry that you were up all night on the computer.

 

[Race Radio]

Hmm, the calming breaths are not working. Perhaps a soothing warm soak in some bath salts and lavender oils?

When all else fails, massage can work wonders

Better watch out, he might put you on one of his lists.

 

[WonderLance]

I've learned that Coppi won the tour 54 years ago after a collarbone injury, but I don't know when it happened.
I learned that Merckx won it 39 years ago, 8 or 9 months after being injured. He also wons some spring races, which he wouldn't have even been in if he'd been injured March 23rd. Would he have won the Giro too that year? I don't think so but that's debatable.
It's cool that you got to race at that level. I'd love to hear more. I never got to that level.
I believe that in order to win the tour most years you have to make it the focus of your year and if anything goes wrong with that, way more often than not you won't win. That's all I have been saying. History certainly proves it true. There are many stories of tour contenders that had illness or injury ruin the focus of their training in such a way that they failed. Many many more cases of that than cases of guys who had a metal plate and a dozen screws inserted at the end of March and went on to win the tour.
As far as self promotion goes I see the press coming to him way more than I see him going to the press. He seems to me to be reasonable, and cogent in every interview and more frank in his opinions than he really needs to be. I think that's a good thing.
I'd like to know why you think he doesn't respect his competitors. I see pictures and video all the time of him in engaging conversations with the riders before races. I've speed search through most of the pre race stuff for the tour down under and saw him talking amiable with Evans, Hincape, Valverde and others. Nobody shuns him. Nobody walks or turns away.
Of course, I assume you're talking about things outside the races themselves as my view is that once the race starts all bets are off (outside team of course).

I didn't read everything you posted heer as I cant concetrate for that long but I agree with everything you said. Only stupid haters who are to stupid to win whould hate Him.

 

[Ripper]

Better watch out, he might put you on one of his lists.

Given the names listed, that'd be like a badge of honour!

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Or take a hard left-hander into the Jackhammer territory.

Carbon Crank...

DING DING... we have a winner....

Guess who's back..... back again.... tell a friend

Jacks back...

 

[Anonymous]

I don't have anybody on ingore but I do have a "stupid" list.
You are on it.
Race radio, Señor_Contador and Publicus are on a "stupid infantile" list.

 

[53 x 11]

Carbon Crank...

DING DING... we have a winner....

Guess who's back..... back again.... tell a friend


Jacks back...

Yeah so this is the same Carboncrank that got kicked off months ago, who was the reincarnation of Jack. Thought as much.

Very smert guy.

 

[Big GMaC]

may have been posted before, but I don't want to wade through the mess of chewed up carboncranks, interview after TdU

Tomalaris said "Lance you had never tasted defeat in the Tour before 2009..."

hmmm.... is that the best that Australia can do for journalism?

 

[53 x 11]

may have been posted before, but I don't want to wade through the mess of chewed up carboncranks, interview after TdU

Tomalaris said "Lance you had never tasted defeat in the Tour before 2009..."

hmmm.... is that the best that Australia can do for journalism?

Same guy called Lancer's 3rd place at tdf a "victory for clean cycling"

and has wrote this **** http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/blog-article/115657/One-for-the-ages-br

 

[El Imbatido]

Same guy called Lancer's 3rd place at tdf a "victory for clean cycling"

and has wrote this **** http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/blog-article/115657/One-for-the-ages-br

Have you ever seen any of SBS's coverage of cycling. Well that 'some guy' is Mike Tomalaris and he does all the intro and outro stuff & yes he is a fanboy to the max. He is like Phil & Paul when it comes to doping "Only a few bad apples do it OR he only tried it and it didn't work OR he made a mistake and he won't do that again" type of person. I made a reference the other day to Phil and Paul being Dumb & Dumber. Well Tomalaris is in a completely different catagory. He is "Dumber than Dumb and twice as dumb as Dumber" if that makes any sense.

 

[Spare Tyre]

may have been posted before, but I don't want to wade through the mess of chewed up carboncranks, interview after TdU

Tomalaris said "Lance you had never tasted defeat in the Tour before 2009..."

hmmm.... is that the best that Australia can do for journalism?

Erm, sadly, Yes.

 

[595RED]

Need to hear from some people:

Do you want this thread to be a "Sticky"?

Do you want me to merge all the other LA threads into this one?

I think both may be a good idea, but want to hear what others say before just implementing it.

Absolutely, merge them all and dont kill the front page

 

[Big GMaC]

Have you ever seen any of SBS's coverage of cycling. Well that 'some guy' is Mike Tomalaris and he does all the intro and outro stuff & yes he is a fanboy to the max. He is like Phil & Paul when it comes to doping "Only a few bad apples do it OR he only tried it and it didn't work OR he made a mistake and he won't do that again" type of person. I made a reference the other day to Phil and Paul being Dumb & Dumber. Well Tomalaris is in a completely different catagory. He is "Dumber than Dumb and twice as dumb as Dumber" if that makes any sense.

well I have been watching the highlights on that player thing, but only the final clip of each stage because the rest just seemed like an infomercial for the Uniballer and SA... Sadly I let it run on and it went into that Lance sycophancy, and I was struck dumb with horror and couldn't turn it off... I mean Kimmage and Walsh give a good shot at things at the Times, but I can forsee some pretty shameful reporting of Team Sky up ahead by the News Corp boys over the next few years, I wonder if Kimmage and especially Walsh will toe the party line.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Jerkhammer eh? Every night is fight night.
Two ignores with one click!
Best of all, it doesn't effect reading the thread.
If at first you don't succeed by slagging off Coppi, try Merckx.
No respect or perspective.

For tonight's menu, may I suggest:
"Would Lance have podiumed, if he had been riding for BBox Bouygues Telecom?

 

[Publicus]

Just reading the new article on the front page and I wonder if one of the moderators can perhaps ask Team RadioShack/ Lance Armstrong to step on a scale. As I noted earlier in this thread, Armstrong looks almost exactly the same as he did at the TdF. I know weight is self-reported, but we should see visible evidence that he lost 8.8 pounds

 

[thehog]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...g-I-think-I-can-win-Tour-de-France-again.html

- CyclingNews stole the article from the Telegraph. Typical.

"I think I can win the Tour again. I might be a fool to think that but I'm going to go down my foolish way and find out," said the 38-year-old Texan in Adelaide, as he headed for his private jet and the long flight back to America after competing in the Tour Down Under.

"It's something I think would be possible," Armstrong said. "It's going to be the hardest one to win. The competition is better than it ever has been before."

 

[ravens]

I mean no disrepect to the racers you mention but what you've done here is so disingenous that I have to call it as I see it.

I like Wikipedia as much as the next guy but you can't just copy paste and unsourced section of a page and expect me to roll over for you. It's halarious that you added "cracked" to "head and knee" from 1954 and if there's any truth to it, it mainly proves the guy was a crashfest.
If in fact it's true he won in '52 after a collarbone, I'll stand corrected but the rest of what you posted about him is irrelevant, like the fact he was a prisioner in WWII. The same Wiki page tells of a well treated prisoner. I'll refrain from mentioning other things about him. He was certainly no pure untainted sportsman who won only through heroic courage over injury.

Eddy Merckx was injured near the end of 1969, after winning 37% of his races, not before.

So congratulations. You found one rider who had some kind of collarbone injury, maybe, who knows when, and won the tour.

I'll stand by my theory that a shattered collarbone with a 5 inch metal plate with 12 screws and a matching incision on March 23rd will impact your fitness on July 4th. It was not the main reason he lost. The main reason he lost was Alberto Contador. But it did have an impact and knowing that is but one of a zillion reasons it would be stupid for Johann to do anything to hurt Alberto's chances. The main result of any such attempt would too likely end with a non Astana rider winning.
I mean Johan is good, but give me a break. No DS would be good enough to manipulate that outcome unless there was some reason to be sure Lance was strong enough pull it off. Lance would have been a longshot even if Alberto hadn't been there.
But he made a good showing, and that drives you guys nuts. Not winning was not enough.

Can we just all agree that he is the reincarnation of Jesus (but with a nasty attitude) and be done with it?

I want to know how to get a freelance gig with demand media. They are hiring people with any writing skills to write about 'exercise, health and active sprots like cycling'. Is that a roundabout way of saying they hire forum rats and pay cash money to proclaim the word of the Lord?

 

[ravens]

Since you evidently have a reading problem I'll repost what I wrote, but his time larger to make it easier for you.

"The main reason he lost was Alberto Contador. But it did have an impact and knowing that is but one of a zillion reasons it would be stupid for Johann to do anything to hurt Alberto's chances. The main result of any such attempt would too likely end with a non Astana rider winning.
I mean Johan is good, but give me a break. No DS would be good enough to manipulate that outcome unless there was some reason to be sure Lance was strong enough pull it off. Lance would have been a longshot even if Alberto hadn't been there.
But he made a good showing, and that drives you guys nuts. Not winning was not enough.

What drives your worship? I am actually curious now.

 

[Tom T.]

Just reading the new article on the front page and I wonder if one of the moderators can perhaps ask Team RadioShack/ Lance Armstrong to step on a scale. As I noted earlier in this thread, Armstrong looks almost exactly the same as he did at the TdF. I know weight is self-reported, but we should see visible evidence that he lost 8.8 pounds

Yes, I love the commencement of the new narrative. His position is better, don't know how his seat got lowered last year........he didn't save all his previous position data from pre-retirement.........he's lost muscle-mass and is now much lighter......blah, blah, blah. All BS, every bit of it. They must really have a nice new "program" that will yield great results this July if they're starting the spin cycle this early.

 

[Race Radio]

Tomalaris said "Lance you had never tasted defeat in the Tour before 2009..."

hmmm.... is that the best that Australia can do for journalism?

Guess he forgot about this, pre-Ferrari performance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmR9k8UAohs