The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[Publicus]

It's been highly discussed in this thread so it should be noted that via Twitter Lance is reconning the Alps this week.

That's probably smart. Reconning at this late hour is better than not reconning at all.

 

[Beech Mtn]

Does "reconning the alps" mean hiding from AFLD? Just curious.

 

[ErmOkk]

Does "reconning the alps" mean hiding from AFLD? Just curious.

Obviously...

 

[mr. tibbs]

I don't know how he did it, but somehow Armstrong has ridden himself into form. Not as strong as he's been in the past, obviously, but still remarkable given the year he's had to date.

I hope he's strong enough to really go for it in a couple of weeks: I don't want him to be able to make any excuses.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

The game's been over for 45 minutes, but apparently Portugal has scored again.

That is all.

 

[Beech Mtn]

Anybody see Lance trying to flirt with that podium girl at TdSuisse? (The one who looked more like his mom) Baby Mama is pregnant, and LA's off trying to pick up a new babe. Maybe he should be more concerned about getting a pre-nup and marrying BM now so she can claim spousal immunity when called for questioning into his current activities.

 

[Polish]

That's probably smart. Reconning at this late hour is better than not reconning at all.

Publicus, Lance rode his first tdF 17 years ago.

Do you think there are ANY roads in the Alps that Lance has not ridden multiple times by now?

Lance is "reconning" out of HABIT

As Aristotle once wisely said (translated):

"We are what we repeatedly do.
Excellence, therefore, is not an act
but a habit."
.
.
.

 

[Wheels Go Round and Round]

I don't know how he did it, but somehow Armstrong has ridden himself into form. Not as strong as he's been in the past, obviously, but still remarkable given the year he's had to date.

I hope he's strong enough to really go for it in a couple of weeks: I don't want him to be able to make any excuses.

he's said he is 38yrs old and happy to be where he's at and there are bigger favorites than him. I think he is being realistic

 

[Publicus]

Publicus, Lance rode his first tdF 17 years ago.

Do you think there are ANY roads in the Alps that Lance has not ridden multiple times by now?

Lance is "reconning" out of HABIT

As Aristotle once wisely said (translated):

"We are what we repeatedly do.
Excellence, therefore, is not an act
but a habit."
.
.
.

Um, ok. Why not skip it and try to work on getting that "one percent" that he thinks he's missing?

 

[Publicus]

he's said he is 38yrs old and happy to be where he's at and there are bigger favorites than him. I think he is being realistic

I think he's hedging just in case. He obviously is feeling good and thinks that within his team he has the answer to AC. And frankly, I wouldn't expect anything less. He's a competitor and if he doesn't believe in his abilities, then game over.

 

[Wheels Go Round and Round]

I think he's hedging just in case. He obviously is feeling good and thinks that within his team he has the answer to AC. And frankly, I wouldn't expect anything less. He's a competitor and if he doesn't believe in his abilities, then game over.

agreed, this isn't the brash Lance of old, he has to play the wiley coyote to have ANY shot of winning. Father Time is never kind...............

as for a dark horse he has just a good of shot as anyone, my guess is they try to split the climbers on the cobbles and get as much time as possible. This needs to happen for him to hold off the inevitable losses in the mountains and time trials

 

[Angliru]

I don't know how he did it, but somehow Armstrong has ridden himself into form. Not as strong as he's been in the past, obviously, but still remarkable given the year he's had to date.

I hope he's strong enough to really go for it in a couple of weeks: I don't want him to be able to make any excuses.

Well he never fails to toss in the line "Not bad for an old man" or "Not bad for a 38 year old" so he'll fall back on his age if he should fail.

 

[Oldman]

I think he's hedging just in case. He obviously is feeling good and thinks that within his team he has the answer to AC. And frankly, I wouldn't expect anything less. He's a competitor and if he doesn't believe in his abilities, then game over.

He did come off as appropriately confident and his TT wasn't a thing of beauty.He still speaks in the royal "we". I kept expecting him to refer to someone else but the interview on Vs was short and he didn't take the opportunity.

 

[flicker]

Well he never fails to toss in the line "Not bad for an old man" or "Not bad for a 38 year old" so he'll fall back on his age if he should fail.

I checked out his post race interview on Versus. Lance looked vital and upbeat.
To me he looked as healthy as Fraank Schleck. Anyone want to fault Lance in the Suisse tour with that TT and finish, uh well just go ahead.

 

[Angliru]

I checked out his post race interview on Versus. Lance looked vital and upbeat.
To me he looked as healthy as Fraank Schleck. Anyone want to fault Lance in the Suisse tour with that TT and finish, uh well just go ahead.

"Vital" is a word usually used to describe a spry senior citizen. I am in no way finding fault in Armstrong's TdS performance, but I am questioning why he feels the need to constantly remind the media how old he is as if they and we don't know it already.

I contrast Armstrong's constant references to his age and how well he's doing to be so old to Sastre's recent cyclingnews interview where he says "at 35 years I have a lot of experience. I will use that experience during this 10th
Tour de France for me. I will be at the start line with enthusiasm and high morale. It is a really hard race, but that is the challenge that every athlete likes."

 

[Publicus]

I checked out his post race interview on Versus. Lance looked vital and upbeat.
To me he looked as healthy as Fraank Schleck. Anyone want to fault Lance in the Suisse tour with that TT and finish, uh well just go ahead.

I will certainly say that his TT isn't up to snuff to compete with AC (or even the other riders on his team). And his climbing ability, as compared to on the other on form TdF riders, is a bit suspect at this point. Good overall result, but doesn't mean one cannot be critical (in the non pejorative sense of the word) of the performance, which was the implication I gleaned from your post.

 

[flicker]

"Vital" is a word usually used to describe a spry senior citizen. I am in no way finding fault in Armstrong's TdS performance, but I am questioning why he feels the need to constantly remind the media how old he is as if they and we don't know it already.

I contrast Armstrong's constant references to his age and how well he's doing to be so old to Sastre's recent cyclingnews interview where he says "at 35 years I have a lot of experience. I will use that experience during this 10th
Tour de France for me. I will be at the start line with enthusiasm and high morale. It is a really hard race, but that is the challenge that every athlete likes."

I guess to hate Armstrong one must have felt let down by him? Kind of like Greg LeMond has been the way Lance once dominated the tours. I am not a fan of Lances' arrogance. I have never expected the grace and humility of Contador or Sastre. Nor have I expected the contriteness of Basso, Valverde and Vino from Lance. If he shut up and was humble would I like him more? Most likely not. Lance is entertaining to me thats all. Plus I see what Lance has accomplished. I admire that.

 

[9000ft]

I have no doubt that Armstrong plans on using major amounts of blood over the next five weeks. He said he would be doing everything to win eight. We all know what that means. I think the plan is to set a new record for the number of liters that have been used in a GT then retire before the passport committee even gets a chance to look at the values from the Tour. Speedway, 9000ft, Rox, and all the other sniffers will have a good month. It will be like a Biblical plague of locusts.

LOL! Bro!

Bro et all seem to find this hard to believe, but I really don't care that much about Lance Armstrong. If he got busted for doping, I'd shed no tears for him personally, just like I wouldn't for anyone else. You guys just can't seem to conceive that someone can be fairly ambivalent about bike racer's personalities, mostly because I don't know them personally and I don't base personal opinions on media.

I have no illusions about PEDs in pro sports. As long as there's big money involved and nobody loves a looser and the only thing worse than a doper is someone who performs like he's clean, (Unexciting! Wheelsucker!) PEDs will be with us. I'd like to see the best possible testing, controls and enforcement fairly and professionally administered and if that doesn't exist now then it needs to be the goal.

Personally, I think they're all suspect, including the heros of past and present such as Eddy, Greg, Andy, Jens, and anybody else who might meet the standard of hero status in the mind of Bro & Co. You know what though? I'm not too worked up about it. I'd like to think pro sports can be clean, but in the grand scheme of things, there are more important things for me to occupy my time worrying about.

What I do find fascinating Bro, is the obsession that you and your cyber Homies have with the guy. 550 pages and counting with the vast majority of the posts from a few repeat posters! Threads totally unrelated to LA that due to a few predictable posters turn into threads about.....You guessed it, Lance Armstrong. Man, talk about a man crush! (NTTAWWT)

So anyway, it should be a fun tour. I fully expect the official LA thread to get to at least 750 maybe even 1000 posts before the end of July rolls around. I'll guess that about 60-70% of the posts will be by the same folks. Personally, I'll have no idea how our boy will do. I don't think he'll be able to hang with AC or the brothers, or maybe a few others, he might totally crack. OTOH, The guy just feeds on all the hatred that gets thrown his way so if by some incredible beating of the odds he wins, or even podiums, Bro, thank yourself and the rest in the circle for a job well done.

 

[flicker]

LOL! Bro!

Bro et all seem to find this hard to believe, but I really don't care that much about Lance Armstrong. If he got busted for doping, I'd shed no tears for him personally, just like I wouldn't for anyone else. You guys just can't seem to conceive that someone can be fairly ambivalent about bike racer's personalities, mostly because I don't know them personally and I don't base personal opinions on media.

I have no illusions about PEDs in pro sports. As long as there's big money involved and nobody loves a looser and the only thing worse than a doper is someone who performs like he's clean, (Unexciting! Wheelsucker!) PEDs will be with us. I'd like to see the best possible testing, controls and enforcement fairly and professionally administered and if that doesn't exist now then it needs to be the goal.

Personally, I think they're all suspect, including the heros of past and present such as Eddy, Greg, Andy, Jens, and anybody else who might meet the standard of hero status in the mind of Bro & Co. You know what though? I'm not too worked up about it. I'd like to think pro sports can be clean, but in the grand scheme of things, there are more important things for me to occupy my time worrying about.

What I do find fascinating Bro, is the obsession that you and your cyber Homies have with the guy. 550 pages and counting with the vast majority of the posts from a few repeat posters! Threads totally unrelated to LA that due to a few predictable posters turn into threads about.....You guessed it, Lance Armstrong. Man, talk about a man crush! (NTTAWWT)

So anyway, it should be a fun tour. I fully expect the official LA thread to get to at least 750 maybe even 1000 posts before the end of July rolls around. I'll guess that about 60-70% of the posts will be by the same folks. Personally, I'll have no idea how our boy will do. I don't think he'll be able to hang with AC or the brothers, or maybe a few others, he might totally crack. OTOH, The guy just feeds on all the hatred that gets thrown his way so if by some incredible beating of the odds he wins, or even podiums, Bro, thank yourself and the rest in the circle for a job well done.

Yeah, bring on the Lance hate. Only makes Lance angrier and stronger.

 

[9000ft]

Yeah, bring on the Lance hate. Only makes Lance angrier and stronger.

While I doubt that Lance reads the CN forums Official Lance Armstrong thread, you never know. BUT, remember Ghost Busters II? All the hate and negativity in NYC turned into a slime that fed on itself. Maybe something like that is Lance's secret. Who needs EPO when you've got LA haters slime running through the sewers! If Bro and Thought, etc start loving Lance, maybe he'll just go back into the painting!

 

[Oldman]

While I doubt that Lance reads the CN forums Official Lance Armstrong thread, you never know. BUT, remember Ghost Busters II? All the hate and negativity in NYC turned into a slime that fed on itself. Maybe something like that is Lance's secret. Who needs EPO when you've got LA haters slime running through the sewers! If Bro and Thought, etc start loving Lance, maybe he'll just go back into the painting!

Lance needs the current version of EPO. I've never heard honest skepticism based on strong evidence referred to as slime before. But then maybe when something smells you don't check your shorts.

 

[Hugh Januss]

agreed, this isn't the brash Lance of old, he has to play the wiley coyote to have ANY shot of winning. Father Time is never kind...............

as for a dark horse he has just a good of shot as anyone, my guess is they try to split the climbers on the cobbles and get as much time as possible. This needs to happen for him to hold off the inevitable losses in the mountains and time trials

You know, in a way I hope you are right. Nothing would spice up the race more than Lance and a few other guys having a 2 minute lead on most of the climbers going into the mountain stages. The climbers would be forced to attack from farther out to gain the time back. Radioshack would have to be on the front chasing from the first week. Who is gonna blow first? And what is Levi or Kloden going to do when they (maybe only one of them) are on equal time to Lance and everybody who counts is going up the road and Lance can't follow?

 

[Anonymous]

agreed, this isn't the brash Lance of old, he has to play the wiley coyote to have ANY shot of winning. Father Time is never kind...............

as for a dark horse he has just a good of shot as anyone, my guess is they try to split the climbers on the cobbles and get as much time as possible. This needs to happen for him to hold off the inevitable losses in the mountains and time trials

Yea, I am actually looking forward to that stage immensely...but of course, my favorite race is P-R. I think Lance will take some time there. Not enough, but I am betting that Contador will end up in the wrong split and maybe not the first wrong split, but one even further back. Honestly, he doesn't seem to like the front of the race until there are very few climbers left on a mountain. You'd better be willing to hammer like a madman before entering the cobbles, and you can rely on your team to some extent, but you'd better be a bull yourself. I just don't see Contador having that instinct, but time will tell. Lance on the other hand, I don't see him having the same problem. Obviously, P-R isn't something he has any experience with, but he is not afraid to get to the front when he needs to.

I don't however think it will gain him enough time that he will win. He will just make one of the mountain stages more interesting because Contador will have to drop him, and drop him good.

 

[Oldman]

Yea, I am actually looking forward to that stage immensely...but of course, my favorite race is P-R. I think Lance will take some time there. Not enough, but I am betting that Contador will end up in the wrong split and maybe not the first wrong split, but one even further back. Honestly, he doesn't seem to like the front of the race until there are very few climbers left on a mountain. You'd better be willing to hammer like a madman before entering the cobbles, and you can rely on your team to some extent, but you'd better be a bull yourself. I just don't see Contador having that instinct, but time will tell. Lance on the other hand, I don't see him having the same problem. Obviously, P-R isn't something he has any experience with, but he is not afraid to get to the front when he needs to.

I don't however think it will gain him enough time that he will win. He will just make one of the mountain stages more interesting because Contador will have to drop him, and drop him good.

If Contador loses time on the cobbles or any windy stage he'll only have himself to blame. You'd think he doesn't need that humiliation again.

 

[Ferminal]

LOL! Bro!

Bro et all seem to find this hard to believe, but I really don't care that much about Lance Armstrong. If he got busted for doping, I'd shed no tears for him personally, just like I wouldn't for anyone else. You guys just can't seem to conceive that someone can be fairly ambivalent about bike racer's personalities, mostly because I don't know them personally and I don't base personal opinions on media.

I have no illusions about PEDs in pro sports. As long as there's big money involved and nobody loves a looser and the only thing worse than a doper is someone who performs like he's clean, (Unexciting! Wheelsucker!) PEDs will be with us. I'd like to see the best possible testing, controls and enforcement fairly and professionally administered and if that doesn't exist now then it needs to be the goal.

Personally, I think they're all suspect, including the heros of past and present such as Eddy, Greg, Andy, Jens, and anybody else who might meet the standard of hero status in the mind of Bro & Co. You know what though? I'm not too worked up about it. I'd like to think pro sports can be clean, but in the grand scheme of things, there are more important things for me to occupy my time worrying about.

What I do find fascinating Bro, is the obsession that you and your cyber Homies have with the guy. 550 pages and counting with the vast majority of the posts from a few repeat posters! Threads totally unrelated to LA that due to a few predictable posters turn into threads about.....You guessed it, Lance Armstrong. Man, talk about a man crush! (NTTAWWT)

So anyway, it should be a fun tour. I fully expect the official LA thread to get to at least 750 maybe even 1000 posts before the end of July rolls around. I'll guess that about 60-70% of the posts will be by the same folks. Personally, I'll have no idea how our boy will do. I don't think he'll be able to hang with AC or the brothers, or maybe a few others, he might totally crack. OTOH, The guy just feeds on all the hatred that gets thrown his way so if by some incredible beating of the odds he wins, or even podiums, Bro, thank yourself and the rest in the circle for a job well done.

To be fair to BroDeal, his posts in this thread make up only 3.66% of his total post count. On the other hand, someone else who may just be having a go at him actually has 12.7% of their posts in this thread.

A bit rich to have a go at him when he contributes in a wide variety of threads.

(I realise he called you out first)