The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[SpeedWay]

where are the lance armstrong fanboys loverboys now ? hahahahha!!!
it seems pharmastrong, armstrong, did not get good enough pharmaceuticals today.
armstrong was greatly destroyed today. good.

Where they have always been. Anxiously awaiting the hordes of haters to start the epic circle jerk. It is a great day for you and yours. Enjoy yourselves and try and rival the entertainment of todays stage.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Stay polite, folks.

Susan

 

[Wallace]

Although the temptation to gloat is very strong, I'll refrain, and just say it's a great day to be a hater.

Now I'm going to have a nice bowl of unicorn stew, crush some butterflies, and maybe go outside and p!ss on a rainbow.

Cheers.

 

[Publicus]

His losses today were precipitated by his crash into the climb of La Ramaz. I'd be curious to hear what he thinks happened. I know he has made a ton of money coming back to the sport after a 3+ year layoff, but I wonder, if in some small part of his mind, he regrets doing so.

Maybe he fights for a stage win. I don't see him being a very good domestique. But then I don't see Levi taking the reins of leadership either. This will be the 2009 Giro writ large.

 

[BroDeal]

The number of Treks hitting eBay this week will be like a flood that would turn Noah's sh!t white.

 

[Archibald]

aah, Karma... gotta love it

 

[Publicus]

I do have to say that I didn't expect him to get exposed like this in the first week though.

 

[mikkemus23]

He really looked like he had given up, even before the third crash. Maybe he had seen the writing on the wall, something his fanboys hadnt.

 

[eleven]

His losses today were precipitated by his crash into the climb of La Ramaz. I'd be curious to hear what he thinks happened. I know he has made a ton of money coming back to the sport after a 3+ year layoff, but I wonder, if in some small part of his mind, he regrets doing so.

I'm sure the crash(es) didn't help, but he looked bad from the start today. The crashes provide a convenient cover for what was in reality a terrible, very-bad, no-good day for him. We'll learn next week if it was just a bad-day or the culmination of a bad season where he never got fit. Too much time jet-setting etc...and not enough time training?

 

[hfer07]

 

[editedbymod]

I'm sure the crash(es) didn't help, but he looked bad from the start today. The crashes provide a convenient cover for what was in reality a terrible, very-bad, no-good day for him. We'll learn next week if it was just a bad-day or the culmination of a bad season where he never got fit. Too much time jet-setting etc...and not enough time training?

The writing was on the wall a long time ago. We could all see it. Some didn't want to see it.

He just had to get to the Tour to get paid. He got paid.

 

[Goldberger]

Armstrong got lots to learn

 

[grimsbychris]

i just wish the guy would go away he is 38! whether it was through dope or talent he has his place in history he is a legend - now is the time to get real.

 

[Iker_Baqueiro]

We're just different types of people. We watch the sport to love success, they watch the sport to love the failure.

yeah right, fanboys. you're getting paid by each post you make protecting your lord' pharmastrong image.

 

[metaCYCLE]

i almost felt sorry for the guy today. almost.

 

[Publicus]

He really looked like he had given up, even before the third crash. Maybe he had seen the writing on the wall, something his fanboys hadnt.

He had. He shut it down before the summit of the Cat. 3 climb.

 

[eleven]

i just wish the guy would go away he is 38! whether it was through dope or talent he has his place in history he is a legend - now is the time to get real.

Combination of the two. Obviously an amazing human specimen, athletically. With helpful support from doping. Same can be said for everyone at the sharp end of the peloton in the last 20 yrs, I suspect. No amount of doping could ever make me ride as fast as Ullrich, Armstrong, Basso, Contador etc....It can't be just the doping.

 

[Berzin]

I do have to say that I didn't expect him to get exposed like this in the first week though..

Neither did I, but it's about time. His terrible riding and the problems he's facing after the Tour ends with the federal investigation is what he clearly deserves.

It is indeed a great day to be a hater.

 

[Berzin]

Combination of the two. Obviously an amazing human specimen, athletically. With helpful support from doping. Same can be said for everyone at the sharp end of the peloton in the last 20 yrs, I suspect. No amount of doping could ever make me ride as fast as Ullrich, Armstrong, Basso, Contador etc....It can't be just the doping..

You find this admirable I see.

Before it was "he never tested positive".

Now it's "He's still a great champion regardless".

Must be nice to live in a world without ethics and morals to hinder your view of the world.

 

[eleven]

You find this admirable I see.

Yes, I think anyone riding at the sharp end of the peloton is rather admirable. I don't care how much EPO we pump into the average cyclingnews forum poster -s/he ain't riding at the sharp end.

Before it was "he never tested positive".

When?

Now it's "He's still a great champion regardless".

of course. As is Ullrich, Pantani, Indurain, Contador...

Must be nice to live in a world without ethics and morals to hinder your view of the world.

So Berzin, who do YOU believe is riding clean at the sharp end. Must be nice to live in a world with your eyes sealed shut from reality.

 

[theswordsman]

I'm one of a lot of people who were big fans of Armstrong when he first came back, I even had a daily blog where people could go to see the best articles about his training & racing, videos, twitpics, etc. Then he turned me into a non-fan, and when he used twitter and the media to lie about and sling mud at Alberto Contador, I joined the fray, because not many people were bothering to read the truth in the Spanish press.

This was a week of karma. Juliet Macur wrote in the NY Times that members of other teams who had been in the same hotels as Astana in the 2009 Tour told her that Lance had trash talked Alberto at the dinner table while he was there. They were afraid to have their names in the paper because they feared repercussions from Armstrong and his team at the Tour. That's a pretty big statement right there.

Then there was the classic photo that I did my best to circulate on twitter. First he, and his manager via e-mail, said that he had not spoken to Contador in almost a year. A minute later he said he knew what it looked like he was doing in the photo, but that wasn't it, and that he couldn't recall what the chitchat was about.

So he chit chatted with a guy he claimed was a fierce rival on Tuesday, couldn't remember what was said, and said on Thursday that he hadn't spoken to him even though there was the picture. Bruyneel chimed in and said that they speak to each other all the time during the race, and that he expected them to speak again that day.

Last year Lance had the famous tweet telling "Pistolero" to thank his team. Again, people just bought into it. In real life, Alberto had at least given a luxury watch to seven of the riders who made the effort to attend the Tour celebration. Lance skipped it to hang out with sponsors, but Bruyneel said he had received a number of messages from Contador saying he had a present for him.

So, Alberto brought the watches along and walked to the RS bus to deliver them. The first story was that Lance was away signing in, but he later said that he was in the back of the bus, busy.

Then there was the actual riding. After his first flat riding in the gutter on the cobbles, Sean Kelly said it was a big mistake to go in there again because there's stuff in there like slivers that can cause flats. He did anyway, got another flat, and then said his team needed to share the blame. You all saw the ride today.

Everything above was just a summary of what happened, or was said this week. There are still people here who can hear Lance say he hasn't spoken to Contador in a year, and Bruyneel say the two speak all the time, and believe them both. Enjoy the Col de la Madeleine, and the two trips up the Tourmalet.

 

[La Vie Claire]

Combination of the two. Obviously an amazing human specimen, athletically. With helpful support from doping. Same can be said for everyone at the sharp end of the peloton in the last 20 yrs, I suspect. No amount of doping could ever make me ride as fast as Ullrich, Armstrong, Basso, Contador etc....It can't be just the doping.

It's not a level playing field. LA and the Hog paid off the testers so they can take their drug program furthest without fear of being caught. Plus, different people respond differently to doping. LA might have the greatest response to doping (who knows?) but without the dope, he's just a classic rider. Wait a minute, he admitted to using steroids/testosterone in pre-99 as well. Access to a great medical program makes all the difference.

 

[eleven]

It's not a level playing field. LA and the Hog paid off the testers so they can take their drug program furthest without fear of being caught. Plus, different people respond differently to doping. LA might have the greatest response to doping (who knows?) but without the dope, he's just a classic rider. Wait a minute, he admitted to using steroids/testosterone in pre-99 as well. Access to a great medical program makes all the difference.

Yeah, I'm sure every other team couldn't compare despite using the same docs, same equipment, same drugs

....It's all one great big Bruyneel/WADA/UCI conspiracy.

Who did Indurain and Pantani payoff? And how did their DS / team leadership lose their connections?

 

[Dr. Zeuss]

Enter the hyenas.

 

[BroDeal]

Yeah, I'm sure every other team couldn't compare despite using the same docs, same equipment, same drugs

....It's all one great big Bruyneel/WADA/UCI conspiracy.

Who did Indurain and Pantani payoff? And how did their DS / team leadership lose their connections?

Do you have any evidence that anyone other than Armstrong paid the UCI?

...crickets....

I thought so.