i think roundabout is just honestly confused about business relationships in DQS, not wasting time
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One single rider does change the cycling history of a nation- i.e Wiggins, Vino, Pogacar, Quintana etc. One single rider like Kopecky doesn't change that.
he has a right to refuse as an owner of the business, what is the confusion about, if you own a bakery you can decide what to bake - that doesnt prevent the sponsor from seting up ladies team even under same title sponsor perhaps, but obviously not with lefevre
i think the whole idea is that Lefevre himself would be setting up ladies team as an experienced and succesful manager, so he would also run the operations which he obviously refused
if Deceuninck decided to make a ladies team, thats perfectly fine within their rights, they can hire a DS and there you go
One thing I don't understand is why Lefevere is talking like he is the one putting money into the team.
I am just curious if the sponsor was to say, ok we're investing in a ladies team , what could Lefevere do about it.
People who flat-out misrepresent and invent stuff shouldn't be too worried about tone. I'm sorry if my bluntness calling you out displeases you - you'll have to deal with it though.
Yeah, and it's 100% correct. Obviously he doesn't have the experience, time, money or desire to be the one investing in getting Belgian girls to take road cycling seriously - as he says, he's not the OCMW. Nobody in their right mind would take exception to that quote.
Do you actually have any point at all here or is it this just wasting time?
I am just curious if the sponsor was to say, ok we're investing in a ladies team , what could Lefevere do about it.
i think roundabout is just honestly confused about business relationships in DQS, not wasting time
because he is CEO and im just guessing here but probably not much that whoever is majority owner of the team wouldnt go against lefevereYes, I am confused. I don't know why Lefevere decides on behalf of Bakala who owns the majority of the team how the money should be invested.
The news piece presented this as an answer to the question about the teams investment.
Of course being confused and just wasting your time (no idea why you replied if that is the case), I am still left wondering where the "I" comes in from a person who is at best a minority shareholder in the company operating the team .
One single rider does change the cycling history of a nation- i.e Wiggins, Vino, Pogacar, Quintana etc
Also the way the same PL stalked Remco from the beginning for a signing is also notable
Once again, no matter how much you lie about this, Lefevere wasn't even referring to the creation of a professional women's team; rather about the development aspect of creating a critical mass of Belgian pro riders.
And the "I" comes from him saying he, himself, doesn't have the expertise, qualifications, money, etc, to do that work - I should think 100% of people without some sort of severe cognitive issues would agree with him.
Did you even watch the interview?
because he is CEO and im just guessing here but probably not much that whoever is majority owner of the team wouldnt go against lefevere
so when lefevere doesnt want to do it, then its not being done...the other alternative would be what? fire lefevere (or buy him out) because he doesnt want ladies team?
Bakala or whoever can create their own ladies team, with another DS
Ok dude fess up are you actually Lefevere posting here under another name, you remind me of some of the Armstrong defenders.People who flat-out misrepresent and invent stuff shouldn't be too worried about tone. I'm sorry if my bluntness calling you out displeases you - you'll have to deal with it though.
Are you Lefevere himself? You seem to take this way too close to heart.
Ok dude fess up are you actually Lefevere posting here under another name, you remind me of some of the Armstrong defenders.
i assume its a figure of speech"I" don't have the money is still a strange comment.
I didn't watch the interview, I read a transcript, and I still think he comes across as very ignorant concerning women's cycling.
What does that have to do with Lefevere's point there aren't enough high-level Belgian cyclists to make sense for him to create a professional team under the DQS organization at this point? Kopecky isn't the female Remco and Lefevere already had a team before Remco.
At least seems the loony mob has abandoned the "Lefevere was being misogynist and hates women cycling" by simply making up stuff he didn't say (reminder that Lefevere has put his own money on women's cycling, probably a larger contribution to the sport than any made by his wild-eyed self-righteous critics here) for trying to parse his comments in search of something.
A couple of weeks ago I was Efapel DS because I called out silly fantasies in a topic; now I'm Patrick Lefevere because I'm pointing out people are misrepresenting and lying about what he actually said. Mediocre minds are always alike.
I don't like liars and fantasists.
Once again, there's nothing wrong whatsoever about that statement. The fact you seem to take exception about the man using the word "I" while talking about what he himself can or cannot do is flat out surreal.
In fact, I suspect you're so unserious that you didn't even watch the interview and won't admit to it.
Yeah, the man who had his own company sponsoring a women's professional cycling team is "very ignorant concerning women's cycling" because he gave a realistic assessment of the current state of Belgian cycling.
What we can't contemplate is the possibility that you might be wrong.
I'm still not sure where all this 'mob' stuff is coming from... Does a couple of people calling into question somebody's code of conduct constitute being part of a mob?... And if you're looking for people to act with more respect for one another when speaking in the media, shouldn't that be a good thing?
i assume its a figure of speech
yes technically speaking its not "his" money, but what he meant was that he still decides where the money goes because he is CEO
is that understandable? i dont think he puts his own private money into it
Just because he had some financial involvement with women's cycling doesn't mean he doesn't come across the way I said?
He might also have some shares of an Alpaca farm and still not be interested in Alpacas. And if he talks like that about women's cycling that's not a "realistic assessment."
Actually I think that especially in women's cycling it wouldn't be too hard to build a successful Belgian based team if he was interested in it.
. But he shouldn't talk like it's not worth it in general,