Well, for one, we wouldn't have this entertaining thread.alitogata said:What is the point of hating a brand when you can always buy something else?
Hating really needs no reason. Besides, Rapha sucks.alitogata said:What is the point of hating a brand when you can always buy something else?
The best punishment for a brand that sucks is not to buy it's products and not loosing time posting hateful posts. You see..not buying makes bigger damage than giving bad press, because even bad press makes people pay attention, while no press at all, makes people ignore something.veganrob said:Hating really needs no reason. Besides, Rapha sucks.![]()
Excellent post +1.alitogata said:The best punishment for a brand that sucks is not to buy it's products and not loosing time posting hateful posts. You see..not buying makes bigger damage than giving bad press, because even bad press makes people pay attention, while no press at all, makes people ignore something.
And in the end of the day, someone who hates spends his/her energy in the wrong place.. Why not spending our energy on cycling??![]()
I don't know who is Brad, ( I haven't read all the posts) but I think that those who hate people from the brands that they prefer, generalize because they are not able to distinguish the qualities of a product from the qualities of a living person.Parrot23 said:[...]
(Full disclosure: I don't like the pretension of their brand, but to use it as a hook to hate the folks using it, Brad in this case, is truly absurd.)
Anyone who spends so much effort dressing like he is from a bygone age qualifies as pompous and strange. A fixation on pretending to be part of a past era makes Wiggins and Ralpa a match made in heaven.Parrot23 said:The one and very thing Brad is not is pompous. He's a complex fellow and has more money probably than he ever thought he would. He's acting like someone from a modest background who has come into a lot of money. Nothing unusual or strange there. Good for him.
Ha ha ha.. I know this Brad though..BroDeal said:Anyone who spends so much effort dressing like he is from a bygone age qualifies as pompous and strange. A fixation on pretending to be part of a past era makes Wiggins and Ralpa a match made in heaven.
This doesn't even have anything remotely to do with the truth about Brad except in your imagination, and Rapha's branding exercise. And Brad's connection to it is sheer commercial coincidence. It could still be Adidas, it could be Assos. You're just blowing in the wind--and you were doing it about Pearl Izumi stuff before.BroDeal said:Anyone who spends so much effort dressing like he is from a bygone age qualifies as pompous and strange. A fixation on pretending to be part of a past era makes Wiggins and Ralpa a match made in heaven.
Race Radio said:I guess I finally have to write this.
I have one friend who wears Rapha. It is the only thing he will wear on the bike. He has the shoes, socks, bibs, jerseys, jackets. Head to toe.
I am sure some will scream "Poser" and assume he is a rich dentist/doctor/lawyer who only rides his bike to the coffee shop and back. Hardly.
He is a Navy SEAL. Been deployed over a dozen times. Hardest guy I have ever met. Can ride most of you off his wheel without a hint of suffering. Never complains, just rides hard.....really, really, hard.
He appreciates the quality, service, and simple style. I doubt he as ever been to a coffee shop.
RDV4ROUBAIX said:7-31-11
This thread will fall off pretty soon too, has to be one of the dumbest in a while, you'll see.![]()
The thread outlasted RDV4ROUBAIX.Granville57 said:
Work for a company that puts a marketing con job on the public then take yer lumps. Don't like it? Then quit or change the marketing to something that does not make people laugh at its abject cynicism and phoniness.Giuseppe Magnetico said:Calling people you've never met "d-bag's" and other names was the premise of this whole thread, started off pretty mean spirited, not what you're seeing as of late. Keeping in mind these are close fiends of mine, some for over a decade that are running Rapha USA which BroDeal was so eloquently thrashing. Very classy btw. Whatever, go team JVA!!! See you in Portland not UK.
Man, you really take it to places nobody really visits. You one of those conspiracy dolts living in the mountains? Cons, and phonies everywhere, even at Assos!!! How do you get up in the morning being so fashion critical? Can you even step outside your door without bursting into flames? I mean, really!BroDeal said:Work for a company that puts a marketing con job on the public then take yer lumps. Don't like it? Then quit or change the marketing to something that does not make people laugh at its abject cynicism and phoniness.
Bro.. the problem with your point of view is all the clothing company's have stared this "marketing" Cappo sure have.. so do Assos..BroDeal said:Work for a company that puts a marketing con job on the public then take yer lumps. Don't like it? Then quit or change the marketing to something that does not make people laugh at its abject cynicism and phoniness.
The thing about cycling marketing is that it's really easy to ignore. It's not like you're bombarded with Rapha ads when you turn on the tv or the radio, and so far I haven't seen a single Rapha billboard. If their website bothers you so much, don't look at it. And the stuff may be over-priced, but it holds up (I commute in the rain in Seattle in some Rapha gear I've had for years and it is solid stuff)--if it looked good but fell apart from serious use, then it'd be a con job. I've had Castelli gear dissolve from daily use, and don't get me started about Pearlizumi. As far as I'm concerned, the companies that promise quality and don't deliver are the ones that should be taken to task. But then, I only go to the Rapha site to by stuff on close-out.BroDeal said:Work for a company that puts a marketing con job on the public then take yer lumps. Don't like it? Then quit or change the marketing to something that does not make people laugh at its abject cynicism and phoniness.
I much prefer to buy stuff based on word of mouth since it bypasses the whole advertising spiel. Plenty of people have mentioned that in the case of Rapha you get what you pay for i.e. excellent quality clothing that lasts. So far so good as far as I am concerned.Wallace said:The thing about cycling marketing is that it's really easy to ignore. It's not like you're bombarded with Rapha ads when you turn on the tv or the radio, and so far I haven't seen a single Rapha billboard.