The Rapha hater thread

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BroDeal,

Since love and a sense of community are at the heart of this thread, why not start your own bike company, one that exemplifies those very traits?
You could call it BraPha.

Think about it! On the first Monday of every month, you could offer special pricing on all your products. “BroDeals from BraPha.” Brapha-deals, if you will.

But what products to offer?
Well, I’ve thought of that too. You’d your want first entry into the market to be something that would capture the very essence of BraPha. Something old yet new; classic yet contemporary. The perfect solution? A penny-farthing...but with electronic shifting.

Of course in the case of the P-F, “shifting gears” would mean changing crank length—all at the touch of a single button. That would mean licensing a patent from Frank Day, and what better way to convince the cynical world of consumers and internet warriors that your Mission Statement of Love is true to heart? If you and Frank could hold hands and sing Kumbaya, then reuniting the Korean peninsula could become less of a dream and more of a real possibility in our lifetimes. It could be your (other) contribution to world peace.

Next thing to consider would be materials. One word: Bamboo.
Now stay with me on this. It would only be a matter of time before durianrider would be on board. Before you know it, the Brapha Bamboo Bicycle Boon will be in full swing. In a matter of months, pedestrians and roller-bladers alike will be caught on video, running for their lives, from Sydney to Central Park, as the banana bandit whizzes by on his BBB, capturing every GoPro-moment for the world to see. You can’t buy that kind of international exposure.

Speaking of internet warriors—it’s always good to have more than one on your side. You’ll need someone else to seed the forums and spread the gospel across the linguistic plain. Relying on English-speaking consumers alone won’t be enough. Sure, they’re gullible and in possession of loads of expendable cash, by why stop there? In order to capture the hearts of minds of the ever-increasing market of anti-anglo-agoraphobes, you’ll need to employ one person, and one person only: DAOTEC. Listen to your inner voice on this one, and the company will win awards for marketing that would make even Steve Jobs blush.

One last thing to consider would be to acquire a marquee rider to help launch the brand. Someone who is universally recognizable and whose namesake would instantly generate sales. With FLandis now making his foray into the Grand Fondo scene, I think the choice is obvious. He'll need a signature ride, and let's face it, those hand-me-downs from Neil Browne are only going to last so long.

Just imagine the possibilities for both bumper stickers and t-shirts.

BraPha
For the BroDeal in all of us.

Give hate a chance
 
Jul 17, 2012
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The saying goes 'Rapha nice but pricey'. I'm not head to toe, but I do have the classic softchell and the rain jecket, both of which are superb.

For jerseys however I buy http://www.torm.cc instead, same material, excellent quality and half the price. And for some reason I have Nalini bibs, with the cytec chamois, so same quality but I paid about the third of the price of Rapha.

Yes the marketing is a bit **** and it's no surprise that XXL is the first thing to sell out of any given product but you can't actually fault the quality of the clothes.
 
alitogata said:
I don't know who is Brad, ( I haven't read all the posts) but I think that those who hate people from the brands that they prefer, generalize because they are not able to distinguish the qualities of a product from the qualities of a living person.

My mother used to told me that I don't need to wear branded clothes in order to feel like someone exceptional but my exceptionality has to be the brand of my self.
Her point is that is not the clothes that give specific qualities on us but we are those who give quality to any kind of clothes.

I wear any brand.. No brand can wear me.

I think your mother is a very wise woman…you are fortunate. :)
I totally understand your post.
 
My other half got me a Rapha cap, jersey, arm warmers and socks for Christmas and I have to say that the quality seems excellent. There are little things on the jersey that surprised me like diagonally cut tops on the outer pockets (why doesn't anyone else do that!!!!!), a waterproof centre pocket and a drawstring in the bottom of the jersey (again, why only Rapha? Not all of us are overweight!). IMO this shows someone in the company is thinking outside the square a little.

The arm warmers have large reflective strips on them and look good for dark morning winter rides and the socks look 100000000x longer wearing than the Pearl Izumi, Ronde and Capo socks I normally use. The cap... well it's a cap :D

Now I just need the temp here to drop below 35 so I can see what this stuff is like on the road. One thing though, I find most of Rapha's stuff so plain. It's like no effort was put into actually putting a design on their kits.
 
42x16ss said:
My other half got me a Rapha cap, jersey, arm warmers and socks for Christmas and I have to say that the quality seems excellent. There are little things on the jersey that surprised me like diagonally cut tops on the outer pockets (why doesn't anyone else do that!!!!!), a waterproof centre pocket and a drawstring in the bottom of the jersey (again, why only Rapha? Not all of us are overweight!). IMO this shows someone in the company is thinking outside the square a little.

The arm warmers have large reflective strips on them and look good for dark morning winter rides and the socks look 100000000x longer wearing than the Pearl Izumi, Ronde and Capo socks I normally use. The cap... well it's a cap :D

Now I just need the temp here to drop below 35 so I can see what this stuff is like on the road. One thing though, I find most of Rapha's stuff so plain. It's like no effort was put into actually putting a design on their kits.

think austere :D
 
Wear Rapha and die from cancer.

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Aug 3, 2009
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Damiano Machiavelli said:
It sounds like somone fell prey to the poserwear marketing campaign and is now miffed that someone had the gall to point it out. Do not worry. I am sure that your rides will be at least 50% more epic while wearing Rapha. You can then lounge around the coffee shop while loudly swapping epic stories with the bros.

Thanks for pointing it out.

Own a lot of their stuff and beats all others i own in terms of comfort
 
Jan 29, 2014
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I took advantage of their sample sale that they do once a year and dropped about $700.00 on Rapha stuff. I ended up with several jerseys, shorts, wool jerseys, base layers ect. I think the the stuff is of amazing quality better then most stuff on the market. I was converted from having flashy neon jerseys to the more subtle earth tone classic look. I liked their product so much a grabbed 2 of their trade jerseys when they went on sale on their website at $110.00 each and worth every penny. Not sure I would pay $260.00 for a pair of shorts or $250.00 for a jersey. To honest those prices are absurd, but for what I paid it's fantastic stuff probably the best you can buy. As far as the marketing and culture thy have created I'm all for it. I love the films they make they are very well done and enjoyable to watch. They seem to a have a sincere respect for cycling history and I appreciate that.
 

jordio

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There is a European brand that has good quality and retro designs, I saw in Barcelona this July: cucubarcelona.com
 
Mar 18, 2009
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I'm not at all a Rapha hater, but the new "Rapha Climber's Shoes" (just reviewed on CN: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rapha-climbers-shoes-just-in ) pretty much confirm every Rapha hater's deepest prejudice. They seem to be just Giro Prolight SLX IIs, only a) heavier, and b) more expensive. To off-set those defects, however, "the packaging and presentation are top-notch, and make getting the shoes out of the box feel like a real occasion." Well, that settles it for me. I mean, who doesn't buy shoes for the box they come in? And Rapha even throws in some "light reading"! So you get not one but two boxes and some literature. What do other companies have to offer (besides better, cheaper and lighter shoes)?
 
Rapha = The Gap

For me, Rapha is The Gap of the cycling world. Excellent job of advertising to folks with disposable income. Jacked up prices.

I'm sure their stuff is nice. But, does that justify the wild price tags? I doubt it. Their gloves look nice, but I'll be damned if I pay that much for mitts.

And yes, their videos and adverts and such tick me off. Most of the dudes look like they gave a touring rock band a go...and now traded in their drum kit for a road bike. Get those dudes a razor! And tattoo laser removal.

I've ridden really great, pricey stuff and I've ridden really great modestly priced stuff. For example, I find Voler bibs just as good for me as the Assos ones I have. No doubt Assos are nice, but so too are the Volers and vastly cheaper.

I also am eternally ****ed at Rapha for suing Torm over jersey infringement. What the hell? It's a tight t-shirt with pockets. How do they think they have the rights to it? And Torm is a small company with good folks running it. That was/is a **** move to me. The equivalent of Specialized suing the Canadian shop owner of Cafe Roubaix cycles.