Teams & Riders The Red Bull - Bora - Hansgrohe team thread

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Here is a thought, you only need to add one more, and you got yourself a Tour team. Anyway, nice to see Zak still mentioning Rogla, Sven was rather reluctant to do so.
He is specifically saying he wants to take a co-leader approach with those names. Do you think it makes sense to have 7 co-leaders in a single GT? Would that work?
 
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He is specifically saying he wants to take a co-leader approach with those names. Do you think it makes sense to have 7 co-leaders in a single GT? Would that work?

If they don't take their best to the Tour 2026 then i must say i am not all that optimistic about their chances against UAE and Visma in general. As for having more freedom, they can do that at Giro and Vuelta.

If they take all their best then i will consider this to be bare minimum, for calling RBH an AAA team, otherwise i am not sure what their expectations are, then better to send a sprinter and bunch of kids to the Tour.
 
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If they don't take their best to the Tour 2026 then i must say i am not all that optimistic about their chances against UAE and Visma in general. As for having more freedom, they can do that at Giro and Vuelta.
I don’t think it makes any sense to bring those 7 to the TDF
 
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Would me plain stupid to sent all 7 to the Tour and they are never going to do that. At least 2 out of Evenepoel, Roglic, Hindley, Pellizarri and Lipowitz will go to the giro. I am expecting Roglic/Hindley with Pellizarri.

DFM and Vlasov will have to do a couple of very good first months to the season or they will just be domestiques.
 
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How so? Please explain that tactic to me in for example flat stages with a lot of wind?

Why would a flat stage with a lot of wind be a problem for such team and what else would you want? The only question is on how much of an advantage is it in it for them.

Would me plain stupid to sent all 7 to the Tour and they are never going to do that. At least 2 out of Evenepoel, Roglic, Hindley, Pellizarri and Lipowitz will go to the giro. I am expecting Roglic/Hindley with Pellizarri.

DFM and Vlasov will have to do a couple of very good first months to the season or they will just be domestiques.

I mean if somebody feels the urge to do the Giro as a prep for Tour, do it. Otherwise i feel that a combo of youngsters/classics/sprinters and riders that will miss out the Tour, support riders, should be sent to Giro in the 2026 season.


Exactly, imagine sending Lipo to the Giro, German media would tear RBH apart.
 
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Why would a flat stage with a lot of wind be a problem for such team and what else would you want? The only question is on how much of an advantage is it in it for them.
It's not about one potential flat stage. Sending such a team would mean they'd have a full team of really good riders who can climb well and win races...burning matches literally every day as domestiques.

Not how teams typically...assign roles and plan seasons. Not how riders typically...want to be used.
 
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Why would a flat stage with a lot of wind be a problem for such team and what else would you want? The only question is on how much of an advantage is it in it for them.
Who is going to do most of the work if everyone is a leader? Why should Roglic fetch his own waterbottles and waste energy when Vlasov can get them?
 
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How so? Please explain that tactic to me in for example flat stages with a lot of wind?
Let JV go to the front and pull like they always do. Make sure 1 or 2 GC guys don't get gapped; like RBH did last year. Then fight for Tadej's wheel 'cause he always makes these moves without wasting a ton of energy.
Same as it ever was....
 
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Did anyone read anything about how the team building week went?
My German isn’t that great but if i understood Lipowitz correct in the Tourfunk podcast it wasn’t much of a teambuilding week. It sounded like it was a lot about testing (i guess clothing, bike fit etc) and they didn’t have much time with the other riders. If I’m remembering correct this was a big part of his answer to the question of how he got along with Remco.
 
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If they don't take their best to the Tour 2026 then i must say i am not all that optimistic about their chances against UAE and Visma in general. As for having more freedom, they can do that at Giro and Vuelta.

RBB's team strength doesn't matter unless Evenepoel/Lipowitz improve just enough to stay with Pogacar/Vingegaard when the attacks come.

"The other riders will create chaos"?
Visma and UAE have enough strong helpers to control any strong break.