Rogla already rode in supporting role on when Pogi was beaten at the Tour so your remark is unfounded. As for RBH not offering Rogla co-leadership for the Tour, we'll see on how that one goes.
Rogla already rode in supporting role on when Pogi was beaten at the Tour so your remark is unfounded. As for RBH not offering Rogla co-leadership for the Tour, we'll see on how that one goes.
Re-watch last year's Tour and you'll see Rogla in Paris
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First of all. Just because Remco thinks something is good or bad, doesn't mean I share that opinion. I'm not an AI bot made by the Evenepoel entourage to agree on forums with everything he says in interviews. They don't have that insecurity like UAE does.
Besides that. I don't disagree with the approach of the duo attack. I disagree with him abandoning the race later. Which Evenepoel didn't discuss at all.
Actually, in this latest debates you tried to dispute my both "major" claims until i pointed out it's Remco that has such opinions. Then you did change your mind and sided with Remco easily. The same for example happened with @red_flanders, he even went as far to argue about semantics. On how the same thing one can agree with and not to agree with based on what you would like the outcome to be. Painting some artificial difference. Shamelessly.
Note that i don't hold it against you guys.
I am sure that Remco would be fine with it, being in such position.
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I'm ignoring you since you don't put in any effort to see something from a different perspective. Cheers, I hope Roglic wins the Vuelta.
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Or you could say Roglic crashed really hard on stage 14 and couldn't start the next day due to his injuries, if you didn't want to sound like a hater.
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He looked extremely injured, which is why he was able to ride away with Pogacar and Vingegaard and could keep attacking
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Roglic didn't even win Pogacar's debut Tour; Pogacar in the 2021 Tour was already far superior to the one in 2020. He wouldn't have had any chances in the following ones. It's self-deception to make him the moral winner of those Tours.
Some even believe he could have fought for the 2023 Tour de France, although he won the Giro d'Italia with little margin against G. Thomas and Jumbo clearly relegated him in hierarchy in favor to Vingegaard who went as the sole leader to the Tour.
If they believe that, it's normal that they believe he would have won the previous ones.
Some even believe he could have fought for the 2023 Tour de France, although he won the Giro d'Italia with little margin against G. Thomas and Jumbo clearly relegated him in hierarchy in favor to Vingegaard who went as the sole leader to the Tour.
If they believe that, it's normal that they believe he would have won the previous ones.
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He was so injured that he needed help getting on and off the bike, fyi. Not everyone gives up as quickly as Evenepoel.
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You are the one saying Roglic needed help getting off the bike. I’m saying so did Evenepoel.
Roglic stopped racing to try and win the Vuelta. He could have kept riding to help Vingegaard but didn’t want to. All of this is fine, but say it the way it is. Don’t try to point it to injuries, it’s because he rather prepares for personal victory at the Vuelta than help a teammate win TDF.
The way Roglic rode the last lap of the final stage: it was a fond farewell to many people who wished him a win. We can't know what circumstances would have him ride 3 weeks in support when there are races he'd still like to win.
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Well, he still helped Vingegaard massively to gain a crucial gap. Which I'm not sure it would happen without Roglic's attacks.
The way JV treated him at the Tour Jonas won sent a strong message to him: take care of your own business. He did everything he could to help Jonas win that Tour with little thanks. JV followed up with the Sepp Kuss debacle.
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